"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The real MISSION... -the HS life-

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Hello, my name is Alex – nickname Lefty – and some of you may remember me from SS years ago (about 2), though I doubt it, and I return to you today with a challenge, or rather, a strategy. Now, I am by no means an expert, but I do consider myself very knowledgeable, and there is something lacking in the hearts and minds of highschoolers now a days, something that I think every high school student needs to think long and hard about, something that we can all work at (there’s always room for improvement yes?).


What I’m talking about is your Mental State and General Approach to Women.


So, I’ll start off by introducing myself. My name’s Alex and I’m a senior in high school. I am rather short, about 5’4, nicely toned (many refer to me as “Mini Hulk” or “Hercules”) and possess a kind of charm (or at least I’d like to think so). I always try to look good, keep a clean haircut, workout, buy new clothes about every 2 weeks, keep my teeth straight and white, and keep a clean complexion. I do not play any sports, though I am athletic, I am in an academic program that some of you may be familiar with, the International Baccalaureate program (IB for short). Because of the rigger of the IB program I do not get out as often as I would like, and am confined to my house doing homework a lot of the times (although right now a lot of the time is spent on college aps.) I have had sex with 1 woman, my ex-gf of 6 months, we broke up about 3 months ago. I have had oral or….hand jobs from 4 different women and have made out with about 20. I have a good social circle and am friends with many people and pride myself on having a fun, outgoing and vibrant attitude. I see myself as someone who has unlimited potential with women; at the risk of sounding arrogant.


So, that’s a little about me, but now what I really want to talk about is you. Specifically, your general attitude towards woman and the typical high school males’ general perception.


We all want women, that’s a given fact, we may not understand why we want them (though we have some pretty good ideas, but that’s another story) but we do want them. Of course this is a natural thing and really in our human brains a vital thing (women that is) in terms of our replication value. We are hardwired to want women so that we can pass on our genes, it’s in our “blood” so to say to want the most attractive and beautiful woman. It is thus not hard to understand why SO MANY high school males get so bent out of shape and actually depressed when they don’t get any women. They think, “I Must have a women to be a MAN”, “I NEED a woman”, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard males make non-completeable pledges towards women such as “I’m not going to masturbate any more unless a woman helps me do it.” Like I said, COMPLETELY understandable, hell, I was once this type of guy…all I could think about was Sex Sex Sex, I needed sex, that’s the whole reason I came to this website; to learn how to get women so that in turn I would get SEX. I was constantly trying to seduce women, to get sex………


Stop right now! Because this is exactly the wrong way to go about thinking!


“I want a women because I want to have sex”
“I want to have sex so that I am a man”
“I want to have sex so that I am no longer the only virgin”
“Getting women defines me and my reputation”
“Guys NEED to have sex to be a man!!!!”



-If this is you, your attitude is ALL WRONG!


I was constantly trying to get women at my school, counting my prospects, and was only in it for the sex. But this, was wrong! See what I’m trying to say is that so many high school males focus only on getting WITH women – getting SEX – which is the completely wrong mental attitude. At this stage in our lives, we should NOT only be trying to get WITH women.


One thing that you must understand, and that I know is very hard to understand for all high school males is that – as cliché as it sounds – HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT EVERYTHING. High school is not the time to be getting girls, and in most cases, a lot of girls aren’t even ready for sex. Hell, even COLLEGE is not the time to be getting girls. Don’t get me wrong here, sex is great, if you can get with a woman and have sex, PERFECT, however, your soul purpose in high school should NOT be about getting with women and sex. Your main goal should be: now are you ready? here’s some of the main points: your main goal should be: to LEARN about women, practice your skills, BEFRIEND women so that you know what makes them tick.


High school is a time when women are what we call socially programmed. High school can be a time when women are constantly hit on by all types of guys, Loosers and “Men” alike. Women become socially programmed throughout high school and college to weed out these loosers, because who wants to be with a looser? Think about it – let’s say a typical high school female gets hit on 4 times a day (which is actually about a fraction of what really happens), and we’ll say there’s about 180 days in a typical high school year, and we’ll say that this is a typical 4 year high school. Now they’re off to a 4 year college and the amount of times they get hit on a day doubles, and we’ll say once again (for simplicity) that there are 180 days per college year (even though they’re hit on every day in college). Hell, by the time they graduate college they’ve been hit on over eight thousand five hundred times – 8,640 – to be exact. Don’t you think they’re going to notice some patterns? Notice to recognize the nice guys and the loosers? They’ll know everything that’s coming, and they’ll know every routine, they’ll know every way a guy can hit on her…..


Except…..


They don’t know about you!!!


You see, if you’re just trying to get women because you want sex, then that means you’re hitting on the girl, which makes you JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER GUY. You want to be DIFFERENT!!!


Now, I’m getting ahead of myself…and I’ll get back to the specifics later…but the point is, you don’t want to be like every other guy in highschool, you want to be DIFFERENT. This all comes from the MindSet! You don’t even want to really be trying to GET WITH a lot of women in highschool, you want to LEARN about them! Remember how I said high school and college is when women are socially programmed? Well, their social programming all leads up to when they turn 21. When they turn 21, that’s when the REAL game begins! That’s when it’s time to LOOK FOR SEX in women. Up until then, you don’t want to be specifically looking for sex, you want to be: LEARNING ABOUT WOMEN, HONING YOUR SKILLS, and WORKING ON YOUR STATE OF MIND.


I used to have no friends who were girls 2 years ago. Now, I have 10+ girls that go to my high school whom I can call my “best girlfriend”. Notice what I’ve done here? I’ve IGNORED the friend zone rule! Why? Because I’m not specifically looking for sex in these women, I’m trying to learn about them, ask them questions, be their friends, maybe try some material here and there – see how it works. And at the same time what am I doing while I’m befriending these girls?

For 1, I’m building a stronger social circle. Other women will see that I am constantly around females who like me, and laugh at my jokes and who adore me. How do you think this is going to make the girls on the outside looking in feel???


I am also working on my MENTAL STATE. I’m trying to be the most FUN, POSITIVE, HAPPY, and therefore COOL person I’ve ever met and in the entire world!!! Am I working on my social skills with women? YES. Am I growing my social circle? YES. Most importantly, am I LEARNING about women? YES YES YES!


Here’s the thing, I don’t care about having much sex in high school. All I want to be is ready for when the REAL GAME starts. When the women turn 21 (when you can go clubbing)! I want to know exactly what to do in every situation! And hell, If I continue down this path, I’ll easily be a natural by the age of 21! In college, I’ll have a HUDGE advantage over other guys in terms of my CONFIDENCE, SKILLS and KNOWLEDGE. The point is to think long term.


Don’t try to just get sex from women in high school. Try to learn about them! Try to HONE your skills, your material and your social skills! Get your head in the perfect Mental state!


Sure…you’re not going after women specifically, but the women will come. Why? Well this is another subject, but in short; because people will notice you’re well liked by women, and when you have the right mental state, people will notice that you’re well like by EVERYONE. Tell me what kind of girl would not want to get with a FUN, POSITIVE, HAPPY, and therefore COOLman???


Don’t TRY to get sex from women in high school, if you are then your mental strategy is all wrong. Learn about women, practice your social skills, hone your skills, Fix your mental state. High school is just preparing you for the real game. Don’t get ahead of yourself and try to play the Real game in high school, use high school for what it is, a preparation period, the best way to prep yourself is to make sure that you: learn about women, practice your social skills, hone your skills, and Fix your mental state.




Just as a quick example of something I’ve learned so far:
I asked a lot of women to name the top 5 attributes that they find attractive in a male. (though I’m already fully aware of what causes attraction in women, I asked anyways)
In no particular order

Confidence
Sexy Bod
Appearance (hair, dress, face etc.)
Reputation
Humor
Outgoing
Personality


The game is ours fellas, we just have to wait ‘till the right time to start playing, use this prep period to make sure that you are ready when the real game begins.

-Lefty
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Also, if someone can enlighten me what has become of SS now a days?
Who is still active and of those still active where do you live?

I know SS has never been exclusively America, but where abouts are people posting from now?
 

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I still remember you from 1-2 years ago.

I like the forum nowadays. After I started my journal, quite a few others seemed to follow, and I find we have a nice community here.

I'm currently in Cape Town, South Africa. I hope to get into UCSB, so I might see you around.

Why buy new clothes every 2 weeks?

Why not go for chicks in HS/ or uni especially. I disagree with this, but agree with genuinely getting to know chicks. Not going for chicks at all I'd say is more detrimental, and IGNORING the present.
 

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NorwegianDJ said:
I'm currently in Cape Town, South Africa. I hope to get into UCSB, so I might see you around.

Why buy new clothes every 2 weeks?

Why not go for chicks in HS/ or uni especially. I disagree with this, but agree with genuinely getting to know chicks. Not going for chicks at all I'd say is more detrimental, and IGNORING the present.
Wow South Africa? Excuse my ignorance but that's pretty crazy? I can't imagine how our cultures differ, or are possibly the same. Once again, ignorance, I've never been to africa ;o

Why buy new clothes? Why get your haircut? Why take a shower for that matter? It's all a matter of looking nice, but equally and even more important to those who are new to gaming - feeling nice. Clothes get washed, clothes shrink, clothes don't fit right anymore, I always like to look and feel my best.

Haha and yes I see your point, and I suppose that deserves some clarification on my part. This post is intended more for the...AFC group, of which I'm assuming you're not apart of having been an active member at SS for many years. AFCs tend to put all their eggs in one basket, they tend to only post about specific topics: "Does this girl like me?" & "What am I doing wrong?" blah blah blah etc. etc. etc. Anyways, avoiding gaming girls all together is of course a mistake and foolish. You may recall me saying how high school should be used to "Hone Your Skills" and "Practice your skills", but it should not be the tell all end all tale for males. I think it is in this aspect that you misunderstood my meaning; I want AFCs to "practice their skills" in high school and not focus solely on getting sex, rather the focus should be on practice and learning, not sex.

Anyways, the entire first post of mine is really the only once I'm going to bother with concerning AFCs, and I'm excited to discuss more advanced routines with the more advanced DJs.

I appreciate your comment norweg!

edit: I'd also like to know who among the regular HS posters are more advanced DJs, like I said, i'm excited to discuss some gaming bable with you!
 

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I read through that.

You start good, I agree. Your intro is good, I agree with all your points about attitude and not letting sex control you- I've been there(shudder)-I agreed with your analysis of thought process.

Then you hit the middle. I disagree with nearly everything after
AlexLefty said:
Hell, even COLLEGE is not the time to be getting girls. Don’t get me wrong here, sex is great, if you can get with a woman and have sex, PERFECT, however, your soul purpose in high school should NOT be about getting with women and sex. Your main goal should be: now are you ready? here’s some of the main points: your main goal should be: to LEARN about women, practice your skills, BEFRIEND women so that you know what makes them tick.
This is entirely wrong. It is fatalist and just plain wrong. Seriously, there is no better time then RIGHT NOW and there never will be. There is also no better time for sex than high school because it is the only time where it is legal to have girls that age. You really wanna look back at life and think "Fvck, I regret not fvcking Joanna." Because that is what you will have when you get older. I look at people in there 30's even, they all look down on my culture as "slutty" or "childish" because they're jealous they'll never experience sex with a fifteen year old. If they do, they will also experience sodomy from fifteen men. No pedo rant.

Continuing, most girls are not ready for sex? I'd say (where I live) about a third of girls my age have had sex and are thus sexable. I won't sleep with a virgin because I know I'm not the right guy for that. But really, unless you go after prudes or religious girls, I doubt this is a real risk.

Then comes college. I'm not even going to bother rebutting that, college sex rates are insanely higher than anywhere else in the world. Google.

I haven't bought new clothes in months. Fashion doesn't move much unless you hang with a fashion-driven group. If you do, you are probably interested in fashion and thus want new clothes. For everyone else, buy a couple of really nice higher end shirts and a pair of dark jeans. A couple of nice tees with graphics that won't be uncool in a couple of years and small logos. A couple of nice shoes and a belt and you're set. Now every month or so, buy tops that fit the fashion and shorts- which are cheaper than pants and can be bought each year- for summer.

Your ending was solid also. Just those points really.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Like Norweg, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to focus on. Although, maybe the error is on me in describing it poorly ;(

Regardless, of course you want sex, I want sex, hell, the only reason I talk to a lot of girls is because I am trying to get sex. Sex (but maybe not sex specifically, maybe the right phrase would be: "The want to engage with females in a sexual manner"...) is the reason I go to parties, the reason I don't just stay home playing games all day...However, it is not the only reason, I am also trying to practice my social skills! etc. etc.

Now, the problem that my article is trying to confront is those AFC high school males who are only looking for a hook up, who are only looking for sex...They wonder why she doesn't like him and they post threads that say "What did I do wrong? Do I still have a chance?" What I'm trying to say is that maybe these AFC males in particular should focus on their social skills, their confidence levels, and their attitude before they try going specifically for sex. Put it this way: Work on yourself before you work on trying to get girls! I'm not saying don't go for sex, I'm saying those males who are SO AFC, so BETA in their behavior, should work should first to try and get the right mental state before trying to get the girl, because, what girl is going to want to have sex with an AFC low confidence socially dumb looser? Certainly not any women above an 8, and if you're lucky, maybe you can get a 7 to settle. <-- and yes, i'm being generous :)

You can really start gaming once you having the right Mental State. Without the right mental state however, your game will be sub-par and you will not be able to get the girls you want.



And in response to girls not being ready for sex, this is probably based on our particular circumstances. Where I live, Utah, over 90% of the population is LDS (mormon) which plays a significant role in a woman's want and need for sex, atleast in high school. ;p
 

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Nothing wrong with South Africa. There is a much more (in)visible line between soco-economic class though. At the same time, you might not always notice, as it's 2 different environments. About all of my friends have been mugged, but I haven't as of yet. It's quite a nice place, just don't go alone at night.

I think you just emphasized being friends and observing a bit too much, while undermining being sexual and in the moment. It's like you're promising a better future for a bad present, by this I'm especiallyy referring to "dont have sex in uni". It's a cool post, I just find it needs a balance.
 

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NorwegianDJ said:
I think you just emphasized being friends and observing a bit too much, while undermining being sexual and in the moment. It's like you're promising a better future for a bad present, by this I'm especiallyy referring to "dont have sex in uni". It's a cool post, I just find it needs a balance.
This is true, I went to extremes to prove a point. Hopefully AFCs will be able to understand my meaning though.


Sounds pretty close to parts of mexico, it can be good and it can be bad.
Why UCSB? Seems like such a long stretch from south Africa. If you do end up going though, you'll enjoy it, cali girls can be off the charts! ;o
 

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That's your point then sure, but I agree with Norwegian. You put to much emphasis on it for me to be able to agree at all, it just isn't my reality that I should think of girls as friends before FU...n. Hoho.

Yeah, that's environment man. I'm sure in the rest of the Western World most girls are 100% ready for regular sex in uni.
 

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That's your point then sure, but I agree with Norwegian. You put to much emphasis on it for me to be able to agree at all, it just isn't my reality that I should think of girls as friends before FU...n. Hoho.
Of course, for someone who is experienced and has a good mental state, sex is the goal. For complete AFCs, the first goal should be fixing yourself.


Yeah, that's environment man. I'm sure in the rest of the Western World most girls are 100% ready for regular sex in uni.
Very true, nearly everyone is ready for sex in uni and hs; it's actually really interesting comparing say cali to utah in terms of values etc.
It's ok though, most mormons are 7s and below anyways ;o
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yaddaha said:
Hay
About high school forum,Why not go for chicks in HS/ or uni especially. I disagree with this, but agree with genuinely getting to know chicks. Not going for chicks at all I'd say is more detrimental, and ignoring the present.
Dude, I dont get you. I deleted 2 of your posts cause they were in the same format of a spambot, but this looks quite legit.
 
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