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Yes. I just searched on pubmed and there's not only evidence of vasodilation but angiogenesis at least with cialis. I could only find one article indicating death associated with viagra but it was behind a paywall. From what I know the only risk of death is when you combine them with nitrites.

If you're implying you know of contrary evidence please enlighten us.
Reminds me of looking for deaths from covid vaccines.
 

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I personally think much of it is connected to the slowly increasing obesity rate in the country. Being (pre)diabetic, which obesity is a huge risk factor for, no pun intended lol, puts you at high risk of having erectile issues.
And obesity itself can be a symptom of not only overeating but also being sedentary, which we know is bad for your health.

And sedentaryness is exacerbated by the harmful ergonomic design of the typical chair. A proper "chair" should be more like a bed plus about 135 degree back support, so that there is no vertical pressure on your hamstrings or spine, and your hip flexors dont get clogged. I recommend anyone who hasnt done so yet, to switch to a chair that you can lie in rather than sit in. Your pain from your lower back and down will heal and disappear. Heres the one i use:

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My opinion about the subject and the reasons

1)Porn.

2)The average women getting uglier and fatter and more obnoxious by the day.
2a)The decent ones are taken or demands standard unattainable for the majority of men even for a simple conversation.

3)General stress which is also caused from 2 among the many reasons and leads to 1 as self medication.

4) 1+2+3 coupled with endocrine disruptor basically destroy the general health that leads to a sane libido.

5)The brain in the current social environment just shut off any need that could lead to problems.
 

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I personally think much of it is connected to the slowly increasing obesity rate in the country. Being (pre)diabetic, which obesity is a huge risk factor for, no pun intended lol, puts you at high risk of having erectile issues.
Yeah, it's a modern lifestyle problem. The preservatives in the food, eating the wrong food in general, lack of sleep - all of it contributes to limp noodle. You have to take care of yourself --- unfortunately that means sacrificing some of the "fun" stuff (like Tiramisu or Cannoli every night for me)
 
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Yeah, it's a modern lifestyle problem. The preservatives in the food, eating the wrong food in general, lack of sleep - all of it contributes to limp noodle. You have to take care of yourself --- unfortunately that means sacrificing some of the "fun" stuff (like Tiramisu or Cannoli every night for me)
The reality is that most people in the U.S, especially the poor/lower class, eat terribly. Go to any super Wal Mart and look at what people have for groceries in their carts. It's not even that expensive to eat good/healthy, but what it does take is effort to cook and prepare your own meals. I also think a huge factor is that you develop a pallet and pseudo addiction to foods that are heavy in salts, added sugars and fats. People that drink a lot of soda may not like the taste of water for instance, so they always have to drink sweetened beverages. There's nothing wrong with eating these foods here and there, the problem is when you are consuming them regularly or when they makeup a good portion of your overall diet.

I also agree with your comment about sleep, if I don't sleep right I feel like **** and not the same person. There's a lot of evidence that shows poor sleep is correlated with obesity and a whole host of other health issues. A big part of this is due to the increased cortisol levels, which by the way also lead to you craving bad foods.
 

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The reality is that most people in the U.S, especially the poor/lower class, eat terribly. Go to any super Wal Mart and look at what people have for groceries in their carts. It's not even that expensive to eat good/healthy, but what it does take is effort to cook and prepare your own meals. I also think a huge factor is that you develop a pallet and pseudo addiction to foods that are heavy in salts, added sugars and fats. People that drink a lot of soda may not like the taste of water for instance, so they always have to drink sweetened beverages. There's nothing wrong with eating these foods here and there, the problem is when you are consuming them regularly or when they makeup a good portion of your overall diet.

I also agree with your comment about sleep, if I don't sleep right I feel like **** and not the same person. There's a lot of evidence that shows poor sleep is correlated with obesity and a whole host of other health issues. A big part of this is due to the increased cortisol levels, which by the way also lead to you craving bad foods.
No you're correct. The over consumption of sugar and (simple) junk carbs are sending us to an early grave.

We need sleep to recuperate / repair the body. I skipped out on sleep and wore it like a badge of honor for many years. I was chronically tired and feeling like **** all the time - had to slam multiple coffee's throughout the day to function properly. It worked but I would've been far more efficient had I just got more ****ing sleep. I've noticed a big difference once I actually started getting 7+ hrs of sleep regularly. I go to bed early these days- In 20 mins (8:30) I will be in bed.
 

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I also think a huge factor is that you develop a pallet and pseudo addiction to foods that are heavy in salts, added sugars and fats.
Precisely. Salt, sugar, and fat all exist naturally. Our body can process it in easier in natural form. Certainly can’t in the added quantities that exist today in the west.

For example, heart disease is a first world problem. It doesn’t exist in undeveloped countries. They find no atherosclerosis in the autopsies. Interestingly, they found it in 3,000 year old mummies from wealthy Egyptian society.
 

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Precisely. Salt, sugar, and fat all exist naturally. Our body can process it in easier in natural form. Certainly can’t in the added quantities that exist today in the west.

For example, heart disease is a first world problem. It doesn’t exist in undeveloped countries. They find no atherosclerosis in the autopsies. Interestingly, they found it in 3,000 year old mummies from wealthy Egyptian society.
Early last century it was well understood that kidney disease, heart disease etc was a derivative of diabetes. This is why a lot of these conditions tend to go hand in hand with diabetes; there's an association. Every person is different of course and won't manifest the same complications - some get heart troubles, neuropathy etc. What happened was at a certain point you got all these sub specialties: you have your cardiologist, nephrologist etc and a lot of them are smart and are trying to do good, but they aren't treating the root cause - which is really diabetes or an out of control insulin problem I should say. The culprit is really a prolonged, elevated insulin level -you might have heard of insulin resistance. Diabetes is the end game - it often takes a decade or more before you become a full blown diabetic, you have to really earn your diabetes lol. Many people are actually surprised because they might have had "normal" blood sugar tests in the lead up - than one day it just goes off a cliff. The damage had been slowly happening the entire time due to the constantly high insulin from all the sugar and junk carbs people gorge themselves with.

If you are wondering why are at this point, follow the money. That is and has always been the answer.
 
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Early last century it was well understood that kidney disease, heart disease etc was a derivative of diabetes. This is why a lot of these conditions tend to go hand in hand with diabetes; there's an association.
Heart disease is not a derivative of diabetes. Association is not causation. There are mechanisms at play in diabetics that exacerbate the problem, but you can certainly get heart disease without being IR/T2D.
 

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Heart disease is not a derivative of diabetes. Association is not causation. There are mechanisms at play in diabetics that exacerbate the problem, but you can certainly get heart disease without being IR/T2D.
If I remember correctly, diabetics are something like 5x more likely to have heart disease compared to non diabetics. Obesity and poor diet are risk factors for both diabetes and heart disease. Something like smoking puts you at risk for heart disease but not diabetes for instance. The thing is, a lot of the things that put you at risk for heart disease and diabetes are correlated with one another.
 

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Heart disease is not a derivative of diabetes. Association is not causation. There are mechanisms at play in diabetics that exacerbate the problem, but you can certainly get heart disease without being IR/T2D.
For sure they don't want you to think that correlation = causation, on this topic definitely

You are a smart guy, you will in time come to the same conclusion that I have. Yes, I am saying insulin is the culprit - it is what causes the arteriosclerosis - it isn't fat or whatever else they tell us. Present day heart disease is insidious and is a big problem. People that were around early last century had habits that all the dieticians and so called medical experts would consider "abhorrent" today: they were much heavier smokers, consumed much more dietary fat (evil LARD , butter, full fat milk w the cream), yet they had MUCH less instance of heart disease during that period. It really only began to change after WW2 - our dietary habits changed during this time: sugar consumption for example increased drastically.

We saw the same with the eskimos. They consumed a large amount of dietary fat - they would genuinely eat pure blubber from the animals (like the Whale). They were very healthy and resilient. Once they were turned onto a more "western diet" that is when all the problems began and they went from being healthy and robust to resembling us.
 

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For sure they don't want you to think that correlation = causation, on this topic definitely

You are a smart guy, you will in time come to the same conclusion that I have. Yes, I am saying insulin is the culprit - it is what causes the arteriosclerosis - it isn't fat or whatever else they tell us. Present day heart disease is insidious and is a big problem. People that were around early last century had habits that all the dieticians and so called medical experts would consider "abhorrent" today: they were much heavier smokers, consumed much more dietary fat (evil LARD , butter, full fat milk w the cream), yet they had MUCH less instance of heart disease during that period. It really only began to change after WW2 - our dietary habits changed during this time: sugar consumption for example increased drastically.

We saw the same with the eskimos. They consumed a large amount of dietary fat - they would genuinely eat pure blubber from the animals (like the Whale). They were very healthy and resilient. Once they were turned onto a more "western diet" that is when all the problems began and they went from being healthy and robust to resembling us.
Yo, you are spotting off too much keto/low carb nonsense that you read from Charlatans. It's totally correct that processed sugars are a huge risk factor for a variety of diseases, no debate on that.

You can't use pre WW2 times for a few reasons. One, people back then were substantially slimmer, often even underfed in many cases. They also often worked physically active jobs and the food they ate would have been various types of grains and cereals, seasonal fruits, vegetables, potatoes, meats, dairy, etc. They ate a diet that was heavy in starches/carbohydrates that also included animal foods but they weren't eating large amounts of fat. People back then also had a much lower life expectancy than they do today, reasons for this would be the lack of pharmaceuticals, infectious diseases, etc. You also can't say they did not have heart disease because the data would not have been as readily available as it is today. People in this time period definitely had heart disease, strokes, etc. but they also weren't guaranteed to be living until 70+, it was quite common for men to die in their late 50s or 60s.

The eskimos were incredibly unhealthy. Those living the traditional lifestyle had a life expectancy of 27 and frozen "mummies" of them had undergone autopsies and they found atherosclerotic plaque. They had a deity in their religion that was a "fart god" who would bless you by giving you bowel movements and curse you by giving you constipation, this is due to their extremely low fiber diet. When they started eating a western diet they would have left their traditional lifestyle and lived more like you have now. This means they are going to live longer, so of course having heart disease and diabetes, which natives are prone to, will erupt.

You also have to factor in genetics, it's pretty well understood that non Europeans do NOT handle a western style diet all that well. Some really good examples are African Americans having much higher rates of hypertension for instance. Another example is how pacific islanders, like Samoans and Hawaiians, have incredible rates of obesity. Granted, there are other factors at play related to poverty but genetics are a huge part of this.
 

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Yo, you are spotting off too much keto/low carb nonsense that you read from Charlatans. It's totally correct that processed sugars are a huge risk factor for a variety of diseases, no debate on that.

You can't use pre WW2 times for a few reasons. One, people back then were substantially slimmer, often even underfed in many cases. They also often worked physically active jobs and the food they ate would have been various types of grains and cereals, seasonal fruits, vegetables, potatoes, meats, dairy, etc. They ate a diet that was heavy in starches/carbohydrates that also included animal foods but they weren't eating large amounts of fat. People back then also had a much lower life expectancy than they do today, reasons for this would be the lack of pharmaceuticals, infectious diseases, etc. You also can't say they did not have heart disease because the data would not have been as readily available as it is today. People in this time period definitely had heart disease, strokes, etc. but they also weren't guaranteed to be living until 70+, it was quite common for men to die in their late 50s or 60s.

The eskimos were incredibly unhealthy. Those living the traditional lifestyle had a life expectancy of 27 and frozen "mummies" of them had undergone autopsies and they found atherosclerotic plaque. They had a deity in their religion that was a "fart god" who would bless you by giving you bowel movements and curse you by giving you constipation, this is due to their extremely low fiber diet. When they started eating a western diet they would have left their traditional lifestyle and lived more like you have now. This means they are going to live longer, so of course having heart disease and diabetes, which natives are prone to, will erupt.

You also have to factor in genetics, it's pretty well understood that non Europeans do NOT handle a western style diet all that well. Some really good examples are African Americans having much higher rates of hypertension for instance. Another example is how pacific islanders, like Samoans and Hawaiians, have incredible rates of obesity. Granted, there are other factors at play related to poverty but genetics are a huge part of this.
I can assure you I am not telling you something I heard from some popular YT keto figure head. An example of a source I have used is Dr Joseph Kraft's book, he was a pathologist. He wrote this book Diabetes Epidemic and You. It's technical but maybe it'll interest you. All the best.
 

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I can assure you I am not telling you something I heard from some popular YT keto figure head. An example of a source I have used is Dr Joseph Kraft's book, he was a pathologist. He wrote this book Diabetes Epidemic and You. It's technical but maybe it'll interest you. All the best.
Diabetes and IR are insidious for sure. However, they are not causal in CVD, a disease that has existed a lot longer than 100 years.

Arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis are probably the most insidious diseases in modern society right now. Heart disease, stroke, dementia, ED… are all caused by bad blood flow.

If your dvck doesn’t work, you need to get check that shvt checked out immediately.
 

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Diabetes and IR are insidious for sure. However, they are not causal in CVD, a disease that has existed a lot longer than 100 years.

Arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis are probably the most insidious diseases in modern society right now. Heart disease, stroke, dementia, ED… are all caused by bad blood flow.

If your dvck doesn’t work, you need to get check that shvt checked out immediately.
The thing with diabetes is that it damages nerves and blood vessels overtime, that's a big reason for ED being so prevalent in diabetics. As I mentioned to the other poster earlier, diabetics are something like 5x more likely to have a heart attack compared to non diabetics, don't quote me on that number it is somewhere in that ball park. Diabetes is just about the worst common disease you can have, as it has such a profound impact throughout the body. Going blind, losing fingers and toes, heart disease, stroke, ED, difficulty healing with wounds, etc.
 

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The thing with diabetes is that it damages nerves and blood vessels overtime, that's a big reason for ED being so prevalent in diabetics. As I mentioned to the other poster earlier, diabetics are something like 5x more likely to have a heart attack compared to non diabetics, don't quote me on that number it is somewhere in that ball park. Diabetes is just about the worst common disease you can have, as it has such a profound impact throughout the body. Going blind, losing fingers and toes, heart disease, stroke, ED, difficulty healing with wounds, etc.
Type 2 diabetes is a modern disease of the west. We are sedentary and then we pump all our food with added sugar, salt, and fat. Then we have people adding cream and sugar to their 5 coffees a day, replacing water with soda, and frying everything in butter and oil. How can we do all that and then be surprised?

Buddy of mine was just diagnosed T2D at 42 years old. He’s gained 100 lbs in the last 15 years. Everyone in his family has it. Got to do better than that smh.
 

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Type 2 diabetes is a modern disease of the west. We are sedentary and then we pump all our food with added sugar, salt, and fat. Then we have people adding cream and sugar to their 5 coffees a day, replacing water with soda, and frying everything in butter and oil. How can we do all that and then be surprised?

Buddy of mine was just diagnosed T2D at 42 years old. He’s gained 100 lbs in the last 15 years. Everyone in his family has it. Got to do better than that smh.
Honestly, the solution to this is incredibly simple, which is just eating a good diet and staying active. I personally don't understand how people end up becoming incredibly overweight and making a habit/lifestyle like that. I don't measure my food to the tiniest of details, I actually eat a lot of really good food and a few times per year will eat out at a restaurant, buy myself a donut or a hot dog, etc.

I think the biggest issue is that people have made what was once treat foods as a regular part or even mainstay of their overall diet. Soda, ice cream, candy, etc. isn't anything new, this stuff existed during well before I was born lol. I also think it's something that happens gradually or something like the example you provided, which is like added sugars and creams to your morning coffee. You end up developing a pallet for these foods and it can be a difficult pattern to break.
 
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