Pugsley_f5
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Hey fellas, If any of you have been keeping up with the "7 dates to the inner Bytch " thread as well as my "100 approach journal" particularly my last post talking about a recent date I had and the kiss close......well guys I prolly had one of the most enlightening advice given to me from the most unlikely place on the other side of the fence.....MY EX and everything that she said which lines up perfectly with what has always been said on here, ill post the entire convo and break it down for you all where needed, aslo read those two posts mentioned above itll give you more know how of what I am refferring to in these convos.....otherwise youll be lost.....in this convo
(Just fluff talk mainly)
turbopugsleyLX: I need ur help
delirious: with?
turbopugsleyLX: analysation
delirious: how bout we start with spelling?
delirious: lol
turbopugsleyLX: i know ur proll not the best subject to ask , but ur the only girl I know
turbopugsleyLX: that i can aks
turbopugsleyLX: ask
delirious: i'm the only girl you know? ok, thats a lie
turbopugsleyLX: ****
delirious: alright, well hit me.
turbopugsleyLX: im about to post on soo suave u can read it on my journal
delirious: and what do you need me for then?
turbopugsleyLX: its about a date I had I need analysation (i know spelling)
turbopugsleyLX: from a girls perspective
delirious: okee dokee
urbopugsleyLX: itll be posted in about 5 mins
delirious: well i am curious. did it go well or poorly?
turbopugsleyLX: very well
turbopugsleyLX: just i did one thing that has made me very inecure
delirious: k then what do you want?
delirious: whats that?
turbopugsleyLX: its in the post
delirious: tell her you love her or could fall in love with her?
turbopugsleyLX: lol no not that bad
turbopugsleyLX: Im prolly just being overanalytical
delirious: k good, cause i couldnt get you thru that one.
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: emotional guillatine (sp)?
delirious: saying that? yeah pretty much
turbopugsleyLX: yeh I know....
delirious: i'll tell you what...
turbopugsleyLX: you wont be mad though reading the post will you in a jealous type of way
turbopugsleyLX: ?
delirious: be chill, play your cards close to your chest.
delirious: not at all.
turbopugsleyLX: k
delirious: play your cards close to your chest and even when she pours her heart out, be nice, but dont reciprocate.
turbopugsleyLX: let me finish typing it, the last bit I need to type has nothing to do with the date but I need to put it all in one post
delirious: grrr. i dont have time to wait.
turbopugsleyLX: k well itll be 5 mins
turbopugsleyLX: the post is up
delirious: i know, im reading it.
delirious: k
turbopugsleyLX: k
delirious: you're prolly gonna get a lot of "wait it out" kinds of responses from the DJs, cause they are all about playin the game.
delirious: but i know you, and i know you dont care about getting ass.
delirious: and ultimately, you ARE looking for a gf, correct?
delirious: yes/no/i just want *****/i just want tons of women?
turbopugsleyLX: Im not necessarily looking for a gf, but if something worth my time comes along I would get into a
relationship
delirious: k then what are you looking for? girls to go on dates with?
turbopugsleyLX: yeh but dates are mainly just a filter to see if she is worth the time for a STR or LTR
turbopugsleyLX: so I geuss then you sould say i am going
through the filter process for a STR LTR
delirious: exactly what i just said, but ok.
delirious: anyways, you need to at least call her and tell her you
had a great time, and you look forward to seeing her again, and then see how she responds.
delirious: if she agrees, suggest a date 3 or 4 days out.
turbopugsleyLX: so knowing she made the moves to setup the first date and I didnt even call her you would do that?
turbopugsleyLX: me make the move
delirious: yeah bc she is gonna start to think you dont like her, then she'll put her walls up
delirious: cause if she had to do the work the first time, she prolly wont go to the trouble of doing it again, she'll figure if you want it, you'll go for it. and if you dont, she'll move on
turbopugsleyLX: how long should I wait to call
delirious: AND, the deep and real conversations dont make you "friend" material.
delirious: when was the date?
delirious: if it was saturday, you should have called within 24 hours. call today.
GOOD INFO HERE!--------------------------------------------------------------
delirious: if you didnt call me within 24 hrs of the first date to say you had fun, then you arent interested.
delirious: in a girls mind anyway. thats the general rule of thumb. 24 hrs, NO MORE than 48 or you are out the door.
turbopugsleyLX: I dont want to come off as needy though
delirious: its not needy at all.
delirious: its called INTERESTED.
delirious: playin hard to get aint the way to go. maybe with expressing your feelings it is, but not with contact. trust me. just had this convo with a guy the other day.
(Good Point) ^
turbopugsleyLX: do you see anything there that could have been a negative buying sign on her part
delirious: no
delirious: but some girls really hate the ****y thing, so lay off that for a while
turbopugsleyLX: just knowing what I should or not have done with the last convo got me insecure and doubting
delirious: well dont worry about it
turbopugsleyLX: now heres the question......did anything you read about give you the LJBF from mine or her part
turbopugsleyLX: like she was putting me in the friends zone or if I gave off that vibe
turbopugsleyLX: ?
delirious: 1 sec
delirious: what does LJBF stand for?
turbopugsleyLX: Lets just be friends you know that infamous nice guy excuse line
delirious: i dont think so, but i mean, i dont know how she was touching you.
delirious: thats the telltale sign.
delirious: why no kiss? that could be a big indicator
turbopugsleyLX: I wanted to kiss close but I didnt want to be too pushy and as soon as the last convo was over the insecurity set in
delirious: but she didnt kiss you.
turbopugsleyLX: liked she touched my arm when she was saying something important
turbopugsleyLX: she playfully hit me when I teased
turbopugsleyLX: I put my arm around her shoulder walking out and she put her arem around my side
delirious: those arent definitive,could go either way i guess.
turbopugsleyLX: bets, not very many girsl will initiate a kiss close
turbopugsleyLX: they wait for the guy to..
delirious: no but they will say something that insinuates that they want to be kissed.
turbopugsleyLX: like what?
delirious: like, in a moment of silence "what are you thinking
about" when you know you're both thinkin about kissing. or joking around about getting a goodnight kiss, something like that
(Good point) ^
turbopugsleyLX: nah, we didnt even really talk about relationship stuff at all
delirious: that might not be a good thing
turbopugsleyLX: nothing along those lines so the convo didnt
even come within 1000miles of talking about kissing in any way
delirious: another reason you need to call her, cause she might
be getting the "friends" vibe from you
turbopugsleyLX: but if she did get the friends vibe and then I
showed interest in other ways and thats what she wanted
wuldnt that be a good thing
delirious: you need to call her. bottom line. "i had a great time,
looking forward to taking you out again, blah blah blah"
turbopugsleyLX: if she complies and wants to is it safe to say
that she is interested in "being more than friends
delirious: well most likely. but if you dont kiss on the second
date, you are just friends.
(Take notes on that one) ^
turbopugsleyLX: I always kiss on the second date if I dont get
any buysigns from her
turbopugsleyLX: cause I dont want to overstep the bounds
delirious: if you dont get buying signs?
delirious: what if you do?
turbopugsleyLX: then I do
delirious: and you do it ify ou dont as well?
turbopugsleyLX: like susan we playfully bet on the frist kiss,
sarah no buying signs, I Initiated it second date, you we had soo
much rapport that I could kiss on the first date
delirious: i dont get it. basically, you kiss on the 2nd date either
way?
turbopugsleyLX: if I do get buyinf signs "beyond a shadow of a
doubt stuff" then i will kiss close otherwise ill wait till the 2nd date
delirious: shannon, he kissed me on the second date bc we got in
a situation where we had to, more or less. anthony, it was
silence for a while, i asked hiim what he was thinking, he said he
wanted to kiss me, then he kissed me. brad, first date. and of
course, you and frankie first date.
delirious: but everyone else has been 1st date.
turbopugsleyLX: I know exactly how Im going to initaite the kiss
second date with her
delirious: how?
turbopugsleyLX: ask her "do you like suprises?"
turbopugsleyLX: and of course shell say yes then ill pull her to me
and pause and look at her then kiss
delirious: imo, i dont dig that.
delirious: but if it works for you, roll with it
turbopugsleyLX: lol why
delirious: i think its corney and planned.
delirious: dont plan it.
turbopugsleyLX: I like spontaneity though in my actions
turbopugsleyLX: I wont plan it, just at the right time ill spring it
delirious: wel like i said, ifyou like it, go with it.
delirious: its not my style, but im not your date.
turbopugsleyLX: whats a girls take on kissing?
delirious: what do you mean?
(Just fluff talk mainly)
turbopugsleyLX: I need ur help
delirious: with?
turbopugsleyLX: analysation
delirious: how bout we start with spelling?
delirious: lol
turbopugsleyLX: i know ur proll not the best subject to ask , but ur the only girl I know
turbopugsleyLX: that i can aks
turbopugsleyLX: ask
delirious: i'm the only girl you know? ok, thats a lie
turbopugsleyLX: ****
delirious: alright, well hit me.
turbopugsleyLX: im about to post on soo suave u can read it on my journal
delirious: and what do you need me for then?
turbopugsleyLX: its about a date I had I need analysation (i know spelling)
turbopugsleyLX: from a girls perspective
delirious: okee dokee
urbopugsleyLX: itll be posted in about 5 mins
delirious: well i am curious. did it go well or poorly?
turbopugsleyLX: very well
turbopugsleyLX: just i did one thing that has made me very inecure
delirious: k then what do you want?
delirious: whats that?
turbopugsleyLX: its in the post
delirious: tell her you love her or could fall in love with her?
turbopugsleyLX: lol no not that bad
turbopugsleyLX: Im prolly just being overanalytical
delirious: k good, cause i couldnt get you thru that one.
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: emotional guillatine (sp)?
delirious: saying that? yeah pretty much
turbopugsleyLX: yeh I know....
delirious: i'll tell you what...
turbopugsleyLX: you wont be mad though reading the post will you in a jealous type of way
turbopugsleyLX: ?
delirious: be chill, play your cards close to your chest.
delirious: not at all.
turbopugsleyLX: k
delirious: play your cards close to your chest and even when she pours her heart out, be nice, but dont reciprocate.
turbopugsleyLX: let me finish typing it, the last bit I need to type has nothing to do with the date but I need to put it all in one post
delirious: grrr. i dont have time to wait.
turbopugsleyLX: k well itll be 5 mins
turbopugsleyLX: the post is up
delirious: i know, im reading it.
delirious: k
turbopugsleyLX: k
delirious: you're prolly gonna get a lot of "wait it out" kinds of responses from the DJs, cause they are all about playin the game.
delirious: but i know you, and i know you dont care about getting ass.
delirious: and ultimately, you ARE looking for a gf, correct?
delirious: yes/no/i just want *****/i just want tons of women?
turbopugsleyLX: Im not necessarily looking for a gf, but if something worth my time comes along I would get into a
relationship
delirious: k then what are you looking for? girls to go on dates with?
turbopugsleyLX: yeh but dates are mainly just a filter to see if she is worth the time for a STR or LTR
turbopugsleyLX: so I geuss then you sould say i am going
through the filter process for a STR LTR
delirious: exactly what i just said, but ok.
delirious: anyways, you need to at least call her and tell her you
had a great time, and you look forward to seeing her again, and then see how she responds.
delirious: if she agrees, suggest a date 3 or 4 days out.
turbopugsleyLX: so knowing she made the moves to setup the first date and I didnt even call her you would do that?
turbopugsleyLX: me make the move
delirious: yeah bc she is gonna start to think you dont like her, then she'll put her walls up
delirious: cause if she had to do the work the first time, she prolly wont go to the trouble of doing it again, she'll figure if you want it, you'll go for it. and if you dont, she'll move on
turbopugsleyLX: how long should I wait to call
delirious: AND, the deep and real conversations dont make you "friend" material.
delirious: when was the date?
delirious: if it was saturday, you should have called within 24 hours. call today.
GOOD INFO HERE!--------------------------------------------------------------
delirious: if you didnt call me within 24 hrs of the first date to say you had fun, then you arent interested.
delirious: in a girls mind anyway. thats the general rule of thumb. 24 hrs, NO MORE than 48 or you are out the door.
turbopugsleyLX: I dont want to come off as needy though
delirious: its not needy at all.
delirious: its called INTERESTED.
delirious: playin hard to get aint the way to go. maybe with expressing your feelings it is, but not with contact. trust me. just had this convo with a guy the other day.
(Good Point) ^
turbopugsleyLX: do you see anything there that could have been a negative buying sign on her part
delirious: no
delirious: but some girls really hate the ****y thing, so lay off that for a while
turbopugsleyLX: just knowing what I should or not have done with the last convo got me insecure and doubting
delirious: well dont worry about it
turbopugsleyLX: now heres the question......did anything you read about give you the LJBF from mine or her part
turbopugsleyLX: like she was putting me in the friends zone or if I gave off that vibe
turbopugsleyLX: ?
delirious: 1 sec
delirious: what does LJBF stand for?
turbopugsleyLX: Lets just be friends you know that infamous nice guy excuse line
delirious: i dont think so, but i mean, i dont know how she was touching you.
delirious: thats the telltale sign.
delirious: why no kiss? that could be a big indicator
turbopugsleyLX: I wanted to kiss close but I didnt want to be too pushy and as soon as the last convo was over the insecurity set in
delirious: but she didnt kiss you.
turbopugsleyLX: liked she touched my arm when she was saying something important
turbopugsleyLX: she playfully hit me when I teased
turbopugsleyLX: I put my arm around her shoulder walking out and she put her arem around my side
delirious: those arent definitive,could go either way i guess.
turbopugsleyLX: bets, not very many girsl will initiate a kiss close
turbopugsleyLX: they wait for the guy to..
delirious: no but they will say something that insinuates that they want to be kissed.
turbopugsleyLX: like what?
delirious: like, in a moment of silence "what are you thinking
about" when you know you're both thinkin about kissing. or joking around about getting a goodnight kiss, something like that
(Good point) ^
turbopugsleyLX: nah, we didnt even really talk about relationship stuff at all
delirious: that might not be a good thing
turbopugsleyLX: nothing along those lines so the convo didnt
even come within 1000miles of talking about kissing in any way
delirious: another reason you need to call her, cause she might
be getting the "friends" vibe from you
turbopugsleyLX: but if she did get the friends vibe and then I
showed interest in other ways and thats what she wanted
wuldnt that be a good thing
delirious: you need to call her. bottom line. "i had a great time,
looking forward to taking you out again, blah blah blah"
turbopugsleyLX: if she complies and wants to is it safe to say
that she is interested in "being more than friends
delirious: well most likely. but if you dont kiss on the second
date, you are just friends.
(Take notes on that one) ^
turbopugsleyLX: I always kiss on the second date if I dont get
any buysigns from her
turbopugsleyLX: cause I dont want to overstep the bounds
delirious: if you dont get buying signs?
delirious: what if you do?
turbopugsleyLX: then I do
delirious: and you do it ify ou dont as well?
turbopugsleyLX: like susan we playfully bet on the frist kiss,
sarah no buying signs, I Initiated it second date, you we had soo
much rapport that I could kiss on the first date
delirious: i dont get it. basically, you kiss on the 2nd date either
way?
turbopugsleyLX: if I do get buyinf signs "beyond a shadow of a
doubt stuff" then i will kiss close otherwise ill wait till the 2nd date
delirious: shannon, he kissed me on the second date bc we got in
a situation where we had to, more or less. anthony, it was
silence for a while, i asked hiim what he was thinking, he said he
wanted to kiss me, then he kissed me. brad, first date. and of
course, you and frankie first date.
delirious: but everyone else has been 1st date.
turbopugsleyLX: I know exactly how Im going to initaite the kiss
second date with her
delirious: how?
turbopugsleyLX: ask her "do you like suprises?"
turbopugsleyLX: and of course shell say yes then ill pull her to me
and pause and look at her then kiss
delirious: imo, i dont dig that.
delirious: but if it works for you, roll with it
turbopugsleyLX: lol why
delirious: i think its corney and planned.
delirious: dont plan it.
turbopugsleyLX: I like spontaneity though in my actions
turbopugsleyLX: I wont plan it, just at the right time ill spring it
delirious: wel like i said, ifyou like it, go with it.
delirious: its not my style, but im not your date.
turbopugsleyLX: whats a girls take on kissing?
delirious: what do you mean?