The Problem with the "He Paid" Argument

[bigneil]

Wait a minute.....let me piece this together and hopefully I get it right, if not correct me.
She comes from money, yet got sideways with her daddy so he cut off the cash. At some point she turned to $tripping to support her taste for expensive things. That wasn't enough so she gets a sugar daddy. You say she has her own money??? How?? Why did she feel the need to $trip and have a sugar daddy. And why are you footing the bills for her? You know girls don't $trip because its fun. They also don't have 77yo sugar daddies because they love the elderly so much.

If your girl knew a 77 year old who gave her $2000 to have dinner with her, would you tell her to stop? She never had sex with him, if that is even physically possible. She's told me enough unsavory stories that I believe her. Would you prefer your girl go to a strip bar and entertain random men, or have a rich guy who gives her money?

What bills am I footing? Dinner? Average date in US expenses?

You insist I must be giving her money but she has many other sources for money.

She is with me because I make her have 10 orgasms per date. I'm sorry that's impossible for you to accept.

 

[skinnyguy]

Not an argument.

Want to bet $100 I'm more physically attractive than you?

If you're so good looking then why pay them? It seems like they should be paying you to go on a date. Since you're hotter than Brad Pitt, girls should be lining up at your door willing to have sex with you for free.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you're so good looking then why pay them? It seems like they should be paying you to go on a date. Since you're hotter than Brad Pitt, girls should be lining up at your door willing to have sex with you for free.

Yep, they should be banging bigneil for bragging rights to their friends. Better yet, find women who EARN their own money without stripping or gold digging who WANT a man on their dollar level who want to help and do things for him.

 

[Trump]

I had to line out this girl I've been dating. She has dated some wealthy guys in her past. One of them is a well known hockey player. So she has been spoiled with expensive trips, purses, and jewelry that these guys provided to her. She's been to all of the fancy restaurants. She started complaining that I never take her anywhere nice meaning some fancy restaurant. This was a red flag for me. If she doesn't like what I'm offering, she can hit the road. I'm not buying her schitt, regardless of what I'm worth. She has since understood the message.

The girl you are currently dating and having sex with used to go with wealthy athletes and businessmen who took her on trips, expensive restaurants, and bought her expensive purses and jewelry. You won't take her to one fancy restaurant and she is absolutely 100% in love with you and having sex win you?

Bro I don't know, your story is not making any sense. A good looking girl doesn't go from Filet Mignon to Big Mac under any circumstances.

 

[bigneil]

If you're so good looking then why pay them?.

First, I don't pay them. Are you saying paying for dinner is paying them? And regarding occasionally paying for photo shoots (because they have to get their hair and nails done and buy a dress and take a taxi, etc) is the bar manager paying the waitresses he bangs?

Second, with a 25 year age difference, even if I did pay them, it would be worth working a few hours per week to upgrade a woman my age to a 21 year old.

I got 4 girls phone numbers in the past 2 weeks, ages 22, 22, 22 and 22. All HB9. I didn't pay any of them. I might actually be good with women.

A good looking girl doesn't go from Filet Mignon to Big Mac under any circumstances.

Exactly. If a girl had a wealthy dad, she will seek wealthy men. It's not wrong of her. Credit to her dad.

 

[bigneil]

Better yet, find women who EARN their own money without stripping..

She did earn the money. She made $100,000 in one year at age 20. What is the most you ever made in a year and how old were you?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

She did earn the money. She made $100,000 in one year at age 20. What is the most you ever made in a year and how old were you?

$280k at 28. Had a company that ran $1.4 mill thru it that year but folks had to be paid.

 

[bigneil]

$280k at 28. Had a company that ran $1.4 mill thru it that year but folks had to be paid.

Awesome. I only made $270K in the past year (mostly tax free), my best at age 46.

 

[sazc]

@bigneil I just need to recap....

She is 23
Her daddy is Rich
She strips for a living
You give her 10 orgasms per romp
She keeps company with a much older man who pays her for spending time with him platonically
She is the love of your life
She makes you feel like no other woman has before, or at least very few females have made you feel this way.
You are continuing to actively try to attract and date other females (the Starbucks baristas)
You see her about twice a week
She always initiates texting

I'm just trying to collect facts. Did I get the above set correct?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Awesome. I only made $270K in the past year (mostly tax free), my best at age 46.

Last year was $230k working for folks. What I saw as a younger man was the start of what's possible if I chase a vision.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

@bigneil I just need to recap....

She is 23
Her daddy is Rich
She strips for a living
You give her 10 orgasms per romp
She keeps company with a much older man who pays her for spending time with him platonically
She is the love of your life
She makes you feel like no other woman has before, or at least very few females have made you feel this way.
You are continuing to actively try to attract and date other females (the Starbucks baristas)

I'm just trying to collect facts. Did I get the above set correct?

The more we talk the more I believe I shouldn't be spending $ on any female that doesn't spend $ on me

 

[bigneil]

@bigneil I just need to recap....

She is 23
Her daddy is Rich
She strips for a living
You give her 10 orgasms per romp
She keeps company with a much older man who pays her for spending time with him platonically
She is the love of your life
She makes you feel like no other woman has before, or at least very few females have made you feel this way.
You are continuing to actively try to attract and date other females (the Starbucks baristas)

I'm just trying to collect facts. Did I get the above set correct?

Close.

• She is 21
• Her daddy is rich.
• She quit stripping and her dad is helping her and she is doing some modeling for me and studying computers. I think she could be the penultimate booth babe at a video game conference.
• I gave her her first orgasm on our first date, and on several occasions have given her 10 orgasms on one date. For example, on our last date I said "Did you just come?" and she answered "Like three times!"
• She has kept company with a rich man who paid $8K for her boobs and took her to Vegas and proposed to her but he is MIA AFAIK. She insists she never had sex with him and I believe her. This is simply the guy who men in their 20's picture men in their 40's as. This is the guy who is paying for company for a girl who is not attracted to him, I'm simply being generous with a girl who is highly attracted to me. She met him the same month as me last September so he's been a constant. I have no problem with it.
• She is the love of my life.
• She makes me feel like no other woman has before.
• I am continuing to try to date other females, as a successful seducer will. The fact I got four girls within one year of her age to give me their phone numbers should be an indication this is not an aberration.
• (And she just asked me out for this weekend)

 

[bigneil]

The more we talk the more I believe I shouldn't be spending $ on any female that doesn't spend $ on me

I disagree. The man should earn the money and the woman should stay feminine. Making her go earn money forces her to be masculine and 51% of women who cheat do so with men they meet at work. My girlfriend is one of the most feminine creatures I ever witnessed.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I disagree. The man should earn the money and the woman should stay feminine. Making her go earn money forces her to be masculine and 51% of women who cheat do so with men they meet at work. My girlfriend is one of the most feminine creatures I ever witnessed.

They're going to be working going forward. So there's no reason for the old value system of the man paying for everything to remain.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Last year was $230k working for folks. What I saw as a younger man was the start of what's possible if I chase a vision.

Wow. Doing what?

 

[Plums]

Imagine you were going on a date tonight with a fat 40 year old woman.

• If you could spend a penny and make her skinny, would you? Of course you would.
• If you could spend a dime and make her young and skinny, would you? Of course you would.
• If you had to spend a million dollars to make her one year younger, would you? Of course not.
• So we can see that it's not whether you paid her or not, it's how much you paid her and what you got in return.
• Another factor is how much you earn per hour at your job. If you were earning $2000 a day, would you spend $20 to upgrade your girl? Of course you would. If you were earning $10 a day, would you spend $20 to upgrade your girl? Of course not.

Summary: Many older men with good careers are willing to work an extra hour to upgrade their women from fat 40 year olds to hot 20 year olds. This is done by virtue of spending more on dates. Saying "it doesn't count because he paid" or "she's a working girl" misses those two key points about income and value.

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[sazc]

@bigneil just curious, how long does it take her to have these 10 orgasms question is it just back-to-back immediate or is this over the course of an hour or two?

 

[bigneil]

@bigneil just curious, how long does it take her to have these 10 orgasms question is it just back-to-back immediate or is this over the course of an hour or two?

It always takes time between she said.

Example:
7:00pm - oral orgasm (1)
7:30pm - two orgasms during sex (3)
8:30pm - drinks
9:00pm - three orgasms during sex (6)
9:30pm - oral orgasm (7)
10:00pm - medical grade
10:30pm - two orgasms during sex (9)
12:00pm - oral orgasm (10)

 

[BeExcellent]

A good looking movie star actress will have her own money, she won't be looking for what she can gain financially which is why I prefer girls that make a decent living($65,000 and up) and have some assets. They view relationships very differently than a girl that makes $35K and has nothing. They aren't so quick to want to move in and combine resources.

Believe what you want Trump, I'm disgusted by anybody that wants to associate with me because of what I have to offer financially.

I would like this 60 times if I could. Women who don't require provisioning look at men through a completely different (better) lens.

She affords herself the luxury to pick based on her own preferences. She doesn't pander because the guy has money if she already has her own.

A woman with her act together has the potential to be a great mate.

 

[bigneil]

Yep, they should be banging bigneil for bragging rights to their friends.

You're correct. I never would have picked her up legitimately if her peers did not approve.

Recall that while I originally met her as a brunette waitress, nine months later I found her as a blonde stripper. We originally kissed as part of a three way kiss with a gorgeous Russian girl (try this - just randomly ask two girls for a three way kiss). After I left many girls came over to her and said "You two have amazing chemistry! You should date!"

Note that by that point I had already dated three girls for free from her work, a stripper, a barmaid and a shot girl.

You don't get a girl like that without establishing that you are prizeable.