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The Power Theory

aftershock

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Introduction

Hello DJs. I'm about to introduce what I like to call the Power Theory. It won't help girls actually like you, but it will help to understand which ones to ask out, and above all how to be happy with them.

It can be applied to ANY situation, to why the friends zone is a bad thing to why women stay with abusive blokes.

I was suprised that such a concept or similar isn't in the Bible or anywhere after doing a search. The only thing that is even remotely similar is David DeAngelos Interest Level theory, but even thats hardly the same thing. I'm not keen on David D's IL theory myself, but thats for another thread.

The way it works is this - in any relationship, someone generally has the power. This should, of course, be the man. It can be assesed as a percentage, eg 100:0, 75:25, 50:50, etc, or if the woman has power the other way round: 10:90, 35:65, etc.

What is Power?

Power is who controls the relationship. It's pretty self explanatory. With power, you can do whatever you like in the relationship, taking it to the extreme, if its 100:0, then you could fvck another girl, tell her about it and still be alright! If you have no power then she wears the trousers. Let's not even go there!

How it works

Let's say that Brad Pitt goes to a premier, single. He looks at a girl in the crowd and says: "Half twelve, get a Big Mac and meet me in room 201 at the Hyatt". He's being serious, by the way. I believe that many women would actually do this. Why? He has POWER. He has fame, looks, riches etc. She's at a preimer hoping to get a glipse of him, an autograph if shes very lucky. And this opportunity comes along. Brads got 100% power here - and he'll take her virginity. This is what we should aim to achieve as DJs - the power over women (We all should have power over women just for being men but a lot don't realise it).

Let's look at a 50:50 relationship. For this I'll choose Posh and Becks. Him: world famous soccer player. Her: singer in a successful pop group (remember they got together in the 90s when the Spice Girls were at the height of their fame). Both clearly respect each other and realise that they both have high calibre partners that would be difficult to better. Therefore, they both have 50% power.

For a 10:90 power relationship look at an AFC whos got to the first date somehow and buys her flowers and hires a limo and writes her poetry and tells her he loves her on the phone five minutes after the date, and no, he didn't bang her. Where do we think he's going? To his room with his right hand, Kleenex and a copy of Razzle.

Examples

Let's take the case of the attention wh0re? Simple. They think they have 100% power. So they think they can do anything they want. And they do. And you go along with it, when you shouldn't!

Marriage is another interesting scenario that can be applied to this theory. Asking for marriage is like telling a woman: "Ah, I now have at least 60:40 power over him! Ha!". You've handed her power on a platter and shes eating it. And she'll become fat and you still won't dump her! Because you don't have the power. She has the power to let herself go.

Throughout a relationship the power level rarely stays the same, although over time it should converge to 50:50 if not actually get there. My own in probably on around 75:25 after nearly two years, which is good going.

Neg hits and why they work

The Power Theory also explains why neg hits work. You meet a girl somewhere, anywhere, and for two people who know nothing of each other it's 50:50. You look at her and consider her an 8, just like yourself. You then talk to her, and if shes HB8+, you neg hit her, you knock her power level down, then strike when your power is at the highest. Often why a 3 min pickup can be just as successful as a 20 minute one - the more direct you are, the more power you have.

Friends zone!

The dreaded friends zone. I'm going to share with you one of my own friend zone experiences. On my first day of 6th form (I was 16) I was ten minutes late and strolled into the classroom like I owned the place and C+F'd throughout the day. I had good power over every HB in the place, perhaps 75:25. I instead got into the friends zone with a chick, and every day this power of mine went down. As soon as it was under 40:60, I was never going to get the pvssy.

Now, why does it go down gradually in the friends zone? BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE IT! If you have power, use it. I didn't, and then she thinks she has power over you. And that ain't a pretty place to be.

Perception and Reality

This is where it gets more complicated. The power level that you think you have might be different to the actual power level.

Things get more interesting, so brace yourself. It's possible to have a relationship where no-one thinks that they have power. Insecure high school kids are the best example. They both think that they are on a 0% power rating, and so act insecure. Texting and ringing all the time, can't be seperated, etc.

Ever experienced a voiltile relationship? Most probably you both thought that you had power over the other, when really you didn't. If it's 55:45 to you, and you think it's 90:10 and she thinks it's 25:75, then there is going to be a heck of a lot of arguments!

How to be Happy

We are all comfortable with different power levels. Personally I like it to be 90:10 at the start of a relationship and gradually decreasing to 60:40, so I still have power but to a lesser extent - I like my women to be human and be interesting once in a while! The jerk is only happy at 100%, the AFC is content with none at all.

In the beginning of a relationship, date as many women as possible. Then you have the power, as you always have more options. Later on, you may realise that it is possible to be happy with one woman and therefore sacrifice some of your power for happiness, if you want to.

The Power Theory and Cold Approaches

The reason cold approaches can work can be explained by the Power Theory. If you walk into somewhere, dressed well, looking sharp and confident, and shes looking a bit sweaty and run down, you have power over her, and she thinks you are better than her, and you get her number. Then you go on the date and things can change - she's dressed well, looking good, but so are you. Powers changed from 75:25 to 50:50 overnight. Of course a DJ would keep it over 50% with C+F, neg hits etc.

It's also the case why some struggle with club pickups, as women generally assume they have more power there. By the same token, men assume that they have LESS power. But then the men who approach well are assumed to have more power still. It sure is an interesting world.

Consequences

What happens when the man doesn't have power? Well, the relationship becomes bad, because shes in control. Women know, although they don't like to admit it, that they shouldn't be in control of a relationship. After a while, she becomes bored and fvcks someone else - no doubt who has power over her.

So, before you make a post, think "do I have power? If so, how much?" If you don't have power, chances are you're not going to fvck her.

Like I said at the start, it doesn't explain HOW to pick up, but it can explain WHY. And understanding is often the key to improving oneself.

I hope that this post has at least made you think a little, and if you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them.
 

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Very nice thread, really ironed out what I've done wrong so far in my life and what to do now. I do have a question though, doesn't this apply to anyone, acting like you own the place, walking in the room. People get shook up around you, even the guys, but the girls find it interesting?
 

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Originally posted by ReT
Very nice thread, really ironed out what I've done wrong so far in my life and what to do now. I do have a question though, doesn't this apply to anyone, acting like you own the place, walking in the room. People get shook up around you, even the guys, but the girls find it interesting?
Thanks.

What you are describing is the "alpha male". If you look at apes in the zoo, then everyone respects the alpha male, males and females. This is what you want to be. Of course, you don't have to be alpha to get respect, or women, or power. It fits the theory perfectly.

You can take the Power Theory as far as you want, really, even into business, and negotiating discounts in stores (you are the customer, they are on commission, they want the sale, you have other stores to visit, you have some power), but I didn't write it for that purpose. After all, it's far too simplistic.

The Power Theory is a model of the situation rather than a perfect analysis.
 

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hey i actually had a theory on this as well.. and yes it is definitely true having applied it... it will get girls interested but guys hatin on u, though some guys (usu. confident ones) would give respect, hence POWER
 

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So, before you make a post, think "do I have power? If so, how much?" If you don't have power, chances are you're not going to fvck her.
Preach on

That is the TRUTH
 

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Originally posted by aftershock


Consequences

So, before you make a post, think "do I have power? If so, how much?" If you don't have power, chances are you're not going to fvck her.
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Preach on

That is the TRUTH
 

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Originally posted by aftershock
What is Power?

Power is who controls the relationship. It's pretty self explanatory. With power, you can do whatever you like in the relationship, taking it to the extreme, if its 100:0, then you could fvck another girl, tell her about it and still be alright! If you have no power then she wears the trousers. Let's not even go there!
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Consequences

What happens when the man doesn't have power? Well, the relationship becomes bad, because shes in control. Women know, although they don't like to admit it, that they shouldn't be in control of a relationship. After a while, she becomes bored and fvcks someone else - no doubt who has power over her.
Your sole outlet of power over a woman is the ability to choose. You could be in a 100:0 relationship and one morning, you wake up to find that she has suddenly left you forever without any explanations.

Originally posted by aftershock
Neg hits and why they work

The Power Theory also explains why neg hits work. You meet a girl somewhere, anywhere, and for two people who know nothing of each other it's 50:50. You look at her and consider her an 8, just like yourself. You then talk to her, and if shes HB8+, you neg hit her, you knock her power level down, then strike when your power is at the highest. Often why a 3 min pickup can be just as successful as a 20 minute one - the more direct you are, the more power you have.
To be precise, neg hits are about respect. Look up Mystery's definition of neg hits:

Originally posted by Mystery
You get RESPECT when you neg hit her.
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.seduction.fast/msg/5daf2895415eba7e?q=neg+hit+respect+group:alt.seduction.fast+author:mystery&hl=en&lr=&rnum=1

The reason why women are attracted to men who, according this theory, have more than over 50% control in a relationship, is because women are attracted to dominant men. However, attempting to assert control over a woman in the wrong manner in an attempt to "increase your power" can actually backfire and lower her respect for you.

Women are not attracted to men they don't respect. Conversely, a woman may not necessarily be attracted to a man that she does respect.

Maximus_Decimus
 

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While this theory makes sense in general, you seem to be focusing too much on "technique" and how to constantly keep your power up with "C+F" and "neg hits". You can't build a game on technique and tallying little details like who has x% power. "Oh not I just lost 5%!!!" That's no way to keep up relationships. Focus on yourself first and don't worry about little details like these.
 

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I did make it perfectly clear that it is only a theory and a model. It isn't perfect, but it does help to explain some things about how relationships work.

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus
Your sole outlet of power over a woman is the ability to choose. You could be in a 100:0 relationship and one morning, you wake up to find that she has suddenly left you forever without any explanations.
No. She needs power to leave you, but the theory can be adapted to say that she's realised that shes not enjoying the relationship and thus gains power.

Details like this don't really matter though.

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus

To be precise, neg hits are about respect. Look up Mystery's definition of neg hits:
Neg hits can be explained easily in many different ways. Mystery's is the best way, I agree. But it can be explained here too. Remember that there is more than one way to skin a cat, or indeed bang a girl if we want to be relevant:D.

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus

The reason why women are attracted to men who, according this theory, have more than over 50% control in a relationship, is because women are attracted to dominant men. However, attempting to assert control over a woman in the wrong manner in an attempt to "increase your power" can actually backfire and lower her respect for you.

Women are not attracted to men they don't respect. Conversely, a woman may not necessarily be attracted to a man that she does respect.

Maximus_Decimus
"Respect" could be said to equal "power".

I also missed off an important part of the Power Theory, in that in general, the person who likes the other the least has power. But this should have been obvious.

Less desperation = more power = more women. Which is a basic part of this site.

Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
While this theory makes sense in general, you seem to be focusing too much on "technique" and how to constantly keep your power up with "C+F" and "neg hits". You can't build a game on technique and tallying little details like who has x% power. "Oh not I just lost 5%!!!" That's no way to keep up relationships. Focus on yourself first and don't worry about little details like these.


Like I said, it isn't perfect, but as you said, it explains things in general. You shouldn't be thinking about the theory at all when picking up chicks, in fact you shoudn't be thinking about SoSuave at ALL when picking up chicks. It should come naturally, if not, well, naturally then eventually.

The post was aimed towards the more AFC among us as it can help realise just how relationships, and women work. I think it serves that purpose well.
 
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