backbreaker
Master Don Juan
something happened today that, it was just too easily for me to relate to this forum that I had to make a post.
Okay, I'm form the school of Andrew Cargine in the sense in business, I don't deal with people who can't make up their minds. When I give you something you have usually a day to decide if that and if I don't hear from you from then, than I"m out. I don't deal with people who have a hard time making decisions once the facts have been laid out in front of you (same with women).
Anyway, and this happened to be a woman no less, and while it's not one of my rules... I have made exceptions. I don't chase after busienss from women. But this woman seemed to be the execption to the rule. I thought to msyelf she could be a bull dyke.. okay. Anyway, I send her that deatiled proposal and she gives me a call 2 days ago gushing over how she wanted to work with us and how we understood what she was trying to do. Okay, so she says then, she wants me to do a 3 way call with her old graphic guy before we took over the project.
So Tuesday comes.. she doesn't call. I send her a simple email telling her I look forward to talking to her, she says she will call me yesterday...she doesn't' call. AT this point i'm done.. and not pissed.. but she ovbiously is fishing around, after she had committed to do business with us. Regardless, I dont' have time to fish after her, if she's not happy I hope can find someone who will make her happy, frankly i'm up to my eyeballs in projects.
So she calls me today and says something about how she is tying up some loose ends, and I tell her don't bother as we won't be working on the project. Flabbergasted, she asks why.. I tell her frankly.. she broke 2 promises.. she said she was going to do something twice, and she didn't' do it. she flaked twice. That's not a good sign. I don't need her business (hell now I really don't even want it) and that I wished her the best of luck. Befo;re I can hang up the phone she tells me she is sorry and she had some other people who she was interested in who were making offers that were too good to be true (now mind you.. I would be her third programmer becuase the other two had made the same promises). I told her I knew what she was doing and it's not that I dont' apprciate it, we aren't the only developers out there, but she said she was going to do soemthing twice and didn't do it and I'm a man of my word, I expect her to be a woman of her word and sh ewasn't.. I have 25 clients right now that I basically hand picked.
So, she then says she really wants to work with us ands he's sorry and she understands what quality work we do and is willing to pay more for our services to make up for the time issue.
("I still told her to get lost)
I hung up the phone and I thought... dude, if this isn't dealing with women I don't know what is. until I said no, i'm better than this, i was another fish in the pond. Had I gotten on the phone and done what she expected me to do, quival and drop my price for her, she would have looked at me just like any other of the businesses she was dealing with.
But I said no. I established that I was different, I didn't need her business.. hell to be frank I was debating if I wanted it and decided I didn't at the end of the day. A client that will lie to you before a project starts will lie when it starts. it's like marriage.
By saying no I got her to double her price instead of me dropping it. Instead of showing her all the websites we built and all this stuff we have done, all I had to do is establish that we were valuable and sought after to get her to want to commit.
(this is why I dont' deal with women in business. women make business decisions on emotion)
It's like the guy knows he is a catch. he has a decent job with a pretty high ceiling, he reads, he works out, he has interests.. he's a good guy. he takes a girl out, he takes her out for the time of her life. he's funny, they have a blast. he's not needy, he's just having fun. goes for a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night when he could hae had more...
when she starts flaking, he KNOWS the issue isn't him. this ***** is just crazy and doesn't realize what she has. no i'm not going to chase her. I have sold myself and what I bring to the table to the best of my ability, it's up to her to decide if she has good taste or not now.
if she comes back and asks you to do things like buy her **** or take her places.. no. i have better things to do, i'm not going to degrade myself dealing with a person who doesn't recognize value when they see it.
A lot of women don't recognize value when they see it.
Okay, I'm form the school of Andrew Cargine in the sense in business, I don't deal with people who can't make up their minds. When I give you something you have usually a day to decide if that and if I don't hear from you from then, than I"m out. I don't deal with people who have a hard time making decisions once the facts have been laid out in front of you (same with women).
Anyway, and this happened to be a woman no less, and while it's not one of my rules... I have made exceptions. I don't chase after busienss from women. But this woman seemed to be the execption to the rule. I thought to msyelf she could be a bull dyke.. okay. Anyway, I send her that deatiled proposal and she gives me a call 2 days ago gushing over how she wanted to work with us and how we understood what she was trying to do. Okay, so she says then, she wants me to do a 3 way call with her old graphic guy before we took over the project.
So Tuesday comes.. she doesn't call. I send her a simple email telling her I look forward to talking to her, she says she will call me yesterday...she doesn't' call. AT this point i'm done.. and not pissed.. but she ovbiously is fishing around, after she had committed to do business with us. Regardless, I dont' have time to fish after her, if she's not happy I hope can find someone who will make her happy, frankly i'm up to my eyeballs in projects.
So she calls me today and says something about how she is tying up some loose ends, and I tell her don't bother as we won't be working on the project. Flabbergasted, she asks why.. I tell her frankly.. she broke 2 promises.. she said she was going to do something twice, and she didn't' do it. she flaked twice. That's not a good sign. I don't need her business (hell now I really don't even want it) and that I wished her the best of luck. Befo;re I can hang up the phone she tells me she is sorry and she had some other people who she was interested in who were making offers that were too good to be true (now mind you.. I would be her third programmer becuase the other two had made the same promises). I told her I knew what she was doing and it's not that I dont' apprciate it, we aren't the only developers out there, but she said she was going to do soemthing twice and didn't do it and I'm a man of my word, I expect her to be a woman of her word and sh ewasn't.. I have 25 clients right now that I basically hand picked.
So, she then says she really wants to work with us ands he's sorry and she understands what quality work we do and is willing to pay more for our services to make up for the time issue.
("I still told her to get lost)
I hung up the phone and I thought... dude, if this isn't dealing with women I don't know what is. until I said no, i'm better than this, i was another fish in the pond. Had I gotten on the phone and done what she expected me to do, quival and drop my price for her, she would have looked at me just like any other of the businesses she was dealing with.
But I said no. I established that I was different, I didn't need her business.. hell to be frank I was debating if I wanted it and decided I didn't at the end of the day. A client that will lie to you before a project starts will lie when it starts. it's like marriage.
By saying no I got her to double her price instead of me dropping it. Instead of showing her all the websites we built and all this stuff we have done, all I had to do is establish that we were valuable and sought after to get her to want to commit.
(this is why I dont' deal with women in business. women make business decisions on emotion)
It's like the guy knows he is a catch. he has a decent job with a pretty high ceiling, he reads, he works out, he has interests.. he's a good guy. he takes a girl out, he takes her out for the time of her life. he's funny, they have a blast. he's not needy, he's just having fun. goes for a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night when he could hae had more...
when she starts flaking, he KNOWS the issue isn't him. this ***** is just crazy and doesn't realize what she has. no i'm not going to chase her. I have sold myself and what I bring to the table to the best of my ability, it's up to her to decide if she has good taste or not now.
if she comes back and asks you to do things like buy her **** or take her places.. no. i have better things to do, i'm not going to degrade myself dealing with a person who doesn't recognize value when they see it.
A lot of women don't recognize value when they see it.
