"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Phone Game

Scought

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I really hate the phone game.

Girls use it as a straight up manipulation tool to try and play games and make you do more chasing.

The girl is a girl I have been out on a few dates with recently. We have really hit if off. We have kissed, met some of her friends etc. So, I know she isnt just playing total games with me.

However, sometimes she will answer when I call. Sometimes she will wait a day, when I know she probably isnt doing too much when I have called her.

This just pisses me off. I dont really know the point of posting this other than to vent some frustration over calling her and having her wait and wait to call back.

This isnt like a number I got with a girl I just met. Those callbacks take time. This is from a girl that I have already gone on two dates with.

Why must girls insist on waiting to return calls. All I did today was call and say whats up and told her to give me a ring back. I said it in other words of course.

How many of you have girls that play phone games with you, but you know they actually like you and do want to continue dating.

When I get her on the phone or we are out she says all the right things. She says that I am a 'good one'. Meaning I have my stuff together and come off as genuine.

Why do girls wait and wait. What do you guys to do make that stop. I think girls do this more when they like a guy. Maybe I am wrong.

Your thoughts?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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AmIAFC

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Yeah, I feel ya, but the trick is to have backup. For instance, if you have 5 chics talking to you, and they're all playing the same game, you'll be getting calls regularly (e.g., Vicki = Monday; Tasha = Tuesday; Nicole = Wednesday; Monica = Thursday; Donna = Friday). Get the picture? You choose to put yourself in this position by investing all/most of your interest on this one chic. These girls have other options, so should you, so get with the program and beat them at their own game, my man.
 

Scought

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True.

Most guys toss in the obligatory, 'oh, i have other girls' comment. But mine is legit. I do have another girl I hang out with but she isnt as good looking/fun as this one.

Its not a matter of 'if' she will call back, but more like how long will she wait.

Its a stupid stupid game. I'll I want to do is schedule a date for next week. Pretty simple.
 

DonJuanMonk

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The less important you are to them the more time she'll take her time in responding to you

And I don't believe in "backups" or even mentioning "I have other girls" - A person who has a "LIFE" would have no need to tell others they are busy nor have other girls.
 

AmIAFC

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Re: Re: The Phone Game

Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
The less important you are to them the more time she'll take her time in responding to you

And I don't believe in "backups" or even mentioning "I have other girls" - A person who has a "LIFE" would have no need to tell others they are busy nor have other girls.
I never said he should tell her that. I basically paraphased an age-old axiom, stating that he shouldn't put all his eggs into one basket.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Re: Re: Re: The Phone Game

Originally posted by AmIAFC
I never said he should tell her that. I basically paraphased an age-old axiom, stating that he shouldn't put all his eggs into one basket.

Good post I coudn't agree more.

Get a bunch of girls, and date them all at once, and pick the one you like the best for a serious relationship, or just play the game, and date them all.

Its really not as hard as it seems, i'm a geeky type guy, and my cell is loaded with contacts, and just this weekend alone I dated three different girls.
 
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