The Official "The Game" Thread

[Vincent]

Hey guys, because I'm sick of looking at this forum and seeing 5 posts dealing with "The Game" I decided I'd make this thread where people can talk about it. I'll merge the one thread open right now, but every new thread that pops up will be deleted so please stick to this one so your threads aren't deleted.

Remember this is for anything dealing with "The Game" ie your opinions on it, your success with it, other people opinions on it.

Go nuts.

Thanks guys.

 

[thefuture]

Obsessed with The Game

This will serve as my post for experiences from Boot Camp.

I first downloaded a copy of speed seduction a few years ago. Along with an audio portion. I was reading it, but not understanding the point. I really didn't pay attention to the assignments either.


Flash forward 2005

I studied tv and film in school. And at work I'm around a bunch of news and films. I thought dang wouldn't it be interesting to do an update of the character Don Juan. That is how I came across the site, at work of course. I've been reading this site for the past few months. Pretty passively, I should mention. Plus it's all fragmented cuz I'm reading this while trying to work. I still find the stories and advice very helpful.

The other day at work, one of my co-workers was cool enough to give me a copy of The Game. I can't say how much this has changed my outlook. After reading, nearly the complete book, about Style and his journey I am hooked. The book brings up many, many good points and most of all, it gives me hope.

I've been reading this book for the past three days and I read until I can't keep my eyes open. Then while my eyes are closed the only thoughts that run through my head are trying to come up with openers or rehearsing the ones used in the book and trying to adapt it to myself.

I talked to all my friends regarding this book and the concepts and theories. Some of them find it funny. While others, just seem to know.

I am about to start the bootcamp (online version). If all goes well I would be interested in taking the in-field version, with Mystery. Also to get to know some of the local PUA's here.

I plan on reading up on the Speed Seduction handout again with an open mind.


Last Night

I was unable to put the book down (The Game). I want to finish it as fast as possible and read through it again, while taking notes. I've been spending a lot of time on this website at work. They probably won't be too happy. Fcuk it though.

I've tried using negs already and they seem to be great. I tried it on this one Russian girl in class. Trying to count it, I got 2 IOI's. I'm actually more aware of what the girls are doing now.

I thought I was hopeless because, I tend to have a hard time remembering experiences. This leads to making multiple similar mistakes. Plus I really have trouble paying attention, could this work to my advantage? I'll soon find out.

I'm totally addicted. Now I have to do something about it and find a balance.

 

[RockstarPUA]

Dude!

Its awesome that your addicted. So am I...

You don't need to go out and drop $1500 just to learn the basics and meet other PUAs.

Go to fastseduction.com or bristollair.com and find the lair that is in your area. Join the lair and learn the basics of PU from the guys that are in the lair. You can do all of this for free.

Then once you have the basics down you can consider taking a MM workshop. Its not worth it if you are just starting...

Find a lair, meet the guys, commit to it and get out and sarge!

 

[Spirit Fingers]

I also think that you should meet up with Lair guys before you take a workshop. Workshops can help you enormously, but you don't want to spend the first day just getting over approach anxiety. If you are going to hire advanced PUAs to teach you, you should come it with at least the ability to open and hold conversations for a few minutes.

-Dan

 

[thefuture]

I think both of you guys are right. Thanks for the words and I will take them into consideration. It's all about the good network of friends who share similar goals.

-Update-

Over the weekend I finished reading The Game. These are my thoughts on the book.

At first I felt as though this was the answer. In some ways it has the answer. The more I read the more questions came to my head.

I know the main thing I learned is to understand my strengths and weakness. Also, it helps to have a passion for something. That will lead to meaningful openings instead of some generated thing that often gets recycled and too many girls will have heard 'the line.' I think it's about using these methods and having your own unique twist. So that this doesn't make us out to be PU robots. Because I don't want to lose my identity.

The writer is great! I didn't get a chance to meet him when he was out here for a book signing. This story comes full circle. It seems as though he resents learning the game, but the only reason he was able to meet his current girlfriend is because he knew the game and it game him self-confidence.

That my friend is the other key I learned from the book. I know all of us are insecure about something. There are no exeptions.

You guys probably already know this stuff. I mean everywhere I go, I'm looking at who is the AMOG and looking at situations a lot differently. I like that I can now analyze a situation. Now in the coming weeks, I feel that the need to open up to the women and men is going to be a sticking point.

I went to a bar out in Hollywood. Was able to say hi to a few girls and open to this one girl who was in what I thought was a nurses outfit but turns out it she was supposed to be a go-go dancer...still sexy! I also got a small conversation out of her. I was unable to take it any further...I'm making progress. I'm comfortable making approaches, but they still seem a bit awkward but I'm sure it'll get easier as I go out in the field more.

Another situation, which I ran into a girl I knew from a year ago, really went bad. She totally remembered my name and I'd forgot. I bet she thought I was too cool for school. Anyway, that was horrible. I just figured that I would never see her again. So I basically erased her from my memory.

Well I've been talkin to my brother and he is the embodiment of this book. I knew things he would do before he could even tell me. He was trippin. I told him that all this was contained in this book.

This is such a great reference tool!

 

[bossdog]

book is a peace of ****. and he had the nerve to make it look like a bible or soemthing.

The whole seduction scene in general is lame mostly a bunch of dweebs who analyze ***** too much.

look at this site. I thought the messege board would be filled with real players but its mostly virgin guys.

 

[RockstarPUA]

The community is what you make of it buddy...

If you think the book sucks you obviously don't get it. (Not the book...the game in general).

There are usefull boards. There are usefull posters, there are keyboard jockeys. Its up to you to find a place that is worthwhile to frequent. The real players are not on this board. This board is a basic starting point for AFCs or WBAFCs.

The real players are on the more advanced and more specialized boards.

 

[Vincent]

Bump

 

[thefuture]

Bossdog...Don't Hate

Go some where else.

I'm making strides...Last night I found myself at the Viper Room. It was hella empty at first, but started to fill out around midnight. A friend introduced me to a couple of girls. They seemed to know each other. Whoa one of them was pretty sexy. I couldn't get myself to drop any negs.

She asked me what I did, and instead of giving her some story, I just went straight into telling her what I did. Well to say the least, I didn't think I was getting any IOI's until the very end. She asked me to stay and listen to this chick sing...(not interested at all) but I stayed. Afterwards, we just started to gab and kino's were exchanged. Couldn't get myself to ask for her number as I was already talking to her friend to try and do some project.

Question: What can I do to isolate the two when I'm networking with one girl but like her friend? Or does it even matter? I read that you always let them know that they are not the only one.

Oh about that waitress from the restaurant the other day. I plan on having lunch there again, and trying to go for a number close.

Other than that, I was feeling pretty comfortable making talk and trying to make her feel comfortable...Does it matter that she has two kids?

Till next time.

 

[everywomanshero]

1500

If you have 1500 to drop you don't need technique. Just approach the girls with a wad of cash.

 

[thefuture]

rather not waste my money. I have better things to spend it on...catch my drift? I'm going over the scenarios in my head right now because i'm so tired, and i realize that I shouldn't put any more thought into this.

 

[Sir Don]

To those who have read "The Game". Are the information in the book any different than the DJ Bible?

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Originally posted by Sir Don
To those who have read "The Game". Are the information in the book any different than the DJ Bible?

The book is about styles transformation from dweeb afc to guru pua. He gives several techniques, but still this isnt a how to book, at least not to me. I think that pua canned material is for nerd boys who have never talked o a girl. I like the idea of phase shifts. One thing i've noticed is that alot of their material seems borrowed...like the cube or whateva style calls it, is right out of an icebreaker book. The book isnt going to give you any magical pick up lines, but it might motivate you.

 

[S0LID]

The lines are magical if their delivered perfectly. like if you say them with crap body language she'll be freaked out. I was on a sarge with my wing, he approached face on, she had a wtf look on her face (inbetween 45 and 90 degrees is the way). Obv. if your butt ugly nothing can help you. The more you use routines, the more comfort you gain with hbs, the easier you can communicate, so the less you need them.

 

[thefuture]

Your totally right! The book is defintely not a how to book, but offers some great insight. This seems to have been the way a few years ago. Now it's picked up in popularity and many more are using similar tactics.

I did get some motivation, in that it is possible for someone who hasn't tapped into the way to get chicks. That it's not just some intangable thing and chicks just like Also it's just the story that appealed to me. It gave full closure to what was started. The structure that is explained is cool. I'd never seen it break down like the way they explained. I think it depends on life experiences to get you through other moments throughout the interaction with the females. If you can somehow use these tactics that have been explained and put your own twist into it, then that could be the best.

As far as the DJ bible, it just seems to be a collection of thoughts. The Game seems to actually plot out the different stages in how to PU a girl. Now the material you and I choose to use has to be unique to our personality, or as the guy before mentioned, it will seem creepy. Unless being that creepy guy gets you mad p.ussy.

Now as far as canned material. Whatever helps you get out and do something. Let's put it like this, if everyone were so smooth than what are we even doing on this website? I think it's a great thing, but what happens when you run into that one girl who seems to be able to counter any and all of the methods talked about here in our forums???

 

[bossdog]

most real players are not on messege boards.

doing routines and saying pre thought out **** doesnt mean u have game.

 

[thefuture]

your right. they are most likely out in the field doing something and testing stuff out. I couldn't really say, I'm no player. I don't think there is anything wrong with pre-thought out material. I personally feel that there are certain phrases that one can use and just for that moment be clever enough to substitute some original thought, but the frame is gonna be the same.

There is a battle being waged out there in reality and you have to be prepared!

The Game mentions several other books and people that seem to help get an idea of different tactics available for us to use.

I'm gonna try to research them.
I'll try to make a list...

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I can hardly wait to head out to the Blue Martini in a month or so and go 'peacock' spotting for all the guys who've read The Game,..heheh,..they'll be the guys dressed up like George Clinton or Outkast.

 

[Egoist]

the game was a GREAT book from a writing/journalistic perspective.

It is, however, not a how-to book, nor will it have a great impact on dating. Sure, people will read it, some chicks will hear about it, some guys will get inspired by it, etc....

But in general, if good books really had a lasting effect, we'd all be supersmart supermen with perfect bodies and 200 IQ, there would be no wars, no hunger, no STDs, everyone would be rich, etc.

The only lessons that are really important in the book, IMHO, are:

-almost ANYONE can get great women if they really set out to live up to their potential.
-When you let the game run your life, nothing good can come out of it. Best case scenario - you become a robot, a machine; worst case scenario - you crash and you burn and you get ****ed up.
-everyones reality is defined by their own beliefs and perceptions. things that can be achieved once you step over the imaginary boundaries are incredible.

 

[Marlimus]

most real players are not on messege boards. Doing routines doesn't mean you got game.

The point of warfare is to destroy the enemy. The point of learning these skills is to seduce. If it works for you, you got game. Doesn't matter if you are a natural fighter or if you studied Karate. What matters is kicking ass.

I've never memorized a routine in my life. But I don't look down on those who do. What matters is getting laid (preferably with hot girls)