She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Yes, someone gets it even though it is a womanIf you truly want to turn things around for yourself and be more successful with the opposite sex you MUST make REAL changes. You can't make those changes if you put on an act and fake it here. You don't grow that way and all your actions out in the field look forced, unnatural and sharp women will spot that a mile away and reject you because of it.
Yes, treating women badly comes from not accepting who was the main problem on whose fault it was for failing with women before that. IT IS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT ! ! ! Once you realize this you will be able to move on with your life.The mind set here is bad for all of you. Most of you just want to go out and use and hurt women to "get even". It's retarded. Karma is a biotch and doing that will come back and bite you in the ass hard. That's what's happening. Too many of the guys in the "seduction community" are out there behaving badly. The media is telling women what the men are up to and those who hear it have their guard up. Why? Because they are getting treated badly by guys in your community.
You guys need to remember how important it is to treat girls and women the way you would like them to treat you...because in the end, it's all going to come back to you.
Use this site to become better men, not bigger jerks.
Alright, I won't lie and say that I remember that because I wasn't ever in the position that you were in. The luckiness that you got to see but look at it this way.I've been here to try to help you guys since I joined back in 2001. This site used to have high quality men who were using this community to help each other better themselves in all areas. They weren't hateful and mean to each other and didn't hate on women like happens here now. The quality of posts was much higher too.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
A-unit, that is one of the points I've tried getting across on some of these threads. "The Game" has made it worse. Guys come on here, hear about how guys seem to be going out for the sole purpose of meeting women and being successful. The newbie tries to do the same, but finds his fears and anxiety getting in the way.You know how many times I went out with friends and they met someone, or I met someone, or we both did?? TONS of times. But I never went out with the explicit purpose of GAMING anyone. For me, that's when it happened most.
A-fvcking-men!A good DJ will go out to have fun, and pick up women if the opportunity arises. If no opportunity arises, the DJ doesn't go home upset because he didn't get a phone number, he goes home happy because he had a good time.
I don't think women actually "forget" that men have feelings. They will use their own canned phrases to reject a man so he doesn't feel like 5hit:Men have feelings, too, and that's what the b*tches always forget.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I don't know about that one desdinova. I've blown a few women out of the water in my last couple months. One from PGST has finally got over me after basically crying throughout her journal for me (yeah, I found it on the web googling her name) because they couldn't have me.Originally posted by Desdinova This is why men get devastated. Few women will experience devastation because the focus is always on her emotions.
Look at it on a bigger scale, remembering that most men are AFCs. You're the exception. You're a man who has his 5hit together and doesn't devote your life to "making women happy". Guys will make "making women happy" a number one priority. You are the opposite. You are one of the few guys that can cause women to go into devestation. You focus on keeping your emotions in check. She probably did 5hit that she thought would make you happy, and tried to make you attracted to her. Now, she has to deal with the influx of negative emotions because she made you a priority instead of herself. She put all her positive emotions into you and kept the negative ones for herself.I don't know about that one desdinova. I've blown a few women out of the water in my last couple months.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
LIT isn't a radical. He does risk becoming one if he allows himself to be sucked into the negativity, though.Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
Wyld I believe your right that acting radical well not solve this problem.
I believe that you should not buy into it.
However discussing it isn’t wrong either.
Talking about facts is not wrong or radical.
LIT didn’t say lets bare arms and eliminate all feminists or have a hate for women.
I think you guys are getting a little off topic into your own ideas.
Wyld it’s almost as if your defending and justifying the bad things that women are doing today.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.