The obsession with foreign women is a fantasy tale cope

[corrector]

Height is desirable. But it’s not critical. The girl who approached me at the bar last night was a hair taller than me.

Exactly. I'm sure from my own list of excuses that I previously mentioned for being incel that even you would say that height would probably rank near the bottom if not at the bottom of that list.

 

[SW15]

One of the best seducers I know in my in-person life is a 5'5" guy. He has a triple digit notch count in a Western nation (USA). He's more of an outlier than anything but he does his seducing based on swiping and personality. He tends to get with batshiit crazy chicks, including some American single moms.

So he is a dumpster diver.

Dumpster diver is a bit of a harsh label for his tactics but it's not entirely inaccurate. Most of the women he seduces look decent for their ages. He is now 50+ and most of the women he seduces are 40+. Some have had children under 18 and some have had children who are 18+.

Batshiit crazy is the typical commonality of his women, whether they are childless or moms.

MGTOWs are typically men sent to the rejection pile by women. No man who is an effective seducer identifies with the MGTOW movement.

"Roller" Steve Hoca says that MGTOW are True Force Loneliness men (i.e., Incels).

No idea who "Roller" Steve Hoca is or why he's important, but his point is valid. I've always believed MGTOW and incel to be essentially the same thing. The MGTOW/incel/black pill is growing fast.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Batshiit crazy is the typical commonality of his women, whether they are childless or moms.

I continue to standby my opinion that older women are crazier than younger ones. I love me young women. They have their own problems but they are so much easier to deal with.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

It is impossible to get the best experiences with women on a short-term fling basis. I have had plenty of one-night stands and decent first dates, but none of them compared to the experiences I had with girls I had actual investment in. At the end of the day, fling sex just becomes boring and tedious.

My experience has been different. I've gotten great experiences from women from one night stands and from LTRs and everything in between. It just depends on expectations and enjoying the moment. Not every sexual encounter or fling is meant to become something long term, and it's not usually what I'm looking for anyway. End result has been a life well lived for me.