"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What's up guys? In this topic I'm going to ask a few questions I'd like to know about number closes.
1) Could you just go up there, say hi to her, talk a bit and get her number or do you really have to be in a deep conversation?
2) Does the girl have to be showing alot of interest in you?
3) What's a good example of a number a close?

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Viper
What's up guys? In this topic I'm going to ask a few questions I'd like to know about number closes.
1) Could you just go up there, say hi to her, talk a bit and get her number or do you really have to be in a deep conversation?
2) Does the girl have to be showing alot of interest in you?
3) What's a good example of a number a close?

The Average Frusterated Chump,
Mike
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After a short convo

"I have to go, whats your number? I'll call you later."
 
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Poor Mike.

Well first if they show the slightest interest, you can ask for a number.

About approaching a stranger and asking for a number, there's nothing wrong with it. But usually if you are at school, you are going to see them again, so be patient.

If you want her number, get it.

I don't have any good examples of number closes off the top of my head, because you would try and replicate what I say, and that won't work, since my game is fundamentally different then most of yours.

But a good number close, is where she asks for your number, then you can work it however you want.
 
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Re: Re: The Number Close.

Originally posted by TheNewGuy
After a short convo

"I have to go, whats your number? I'll call you later."
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So, say I'm walking down the hallway at school and I see this HB8, blonde hair, nice body and all that stuff, would this work?
Me: Hey.
Her: Hey.
Me: What's your name?
Her: My name is [insertname].
Me: Ah, cool, I'm Mike.
Me: So what grade?
Her: Senior. You?
Me: Sophomore. Although I do get mistaken for a senior alot.
Her: I see.
[Conversation goes on]
Me: Well, I've got to get to class. Can I get your number? I'd like to talk to you later.
Her: Sure.
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But a good number close, is where she asks for your number, then you can work it however you want.
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We all know that's not happening anytime soon.
 
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Re: Re: Re: The Number Close.

Originally posted by Viper
So, say I'm walking down the hallway at school and I see this HB8, blonde hair, nice body and all that stuff, would this work?


We all know that's not happening anytime soon.
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yes, I can't really think of any other way actually. The conversation does not even have to be that long..... But my concern is that HB8's don't respond that well to direct openers.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Re: Re: Re: The Number Close.

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So, say I'm walking down the hallway at school and I see this HB8, blonde hair, nice body and all that stuff, would this work?
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That'd work fine :)
 
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Originally posted by Viper

1) Could you just go up there, say hi to her, talk a bit and get her number or do you really have to be in a deep conversation?
2) Does the girl have to be showing alot of interest in you?
3) What's a good example of a number a close?
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1. The more rapport you build, the better chance you have of getting the number, AND the better chance that she'll give you the time of day when you call her.

2. She doesn't HAVE to be doing anything, but if the girl is clearly not interested in you, is there any real purpose to getting her number? Remember, half the time girls will give you their number just to get rid of you.

3. "I gotta go, give me your number so we can chill sometime" What you actually say isn't incredibly important as long as you say it with confidence.
 
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This is what I say:

"I have to get going, but you seem like a cool person and we should hang out some time."

If she doesn't hand over her # then, and says something like, "yeah" or "sure, that'd be fun".

Just say, "In that case, it'd be a good idea for you to give me your number".
 
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Originally posted by DJ_in_making
yes, I can't really think of any other way actually. The conversation does not even have to be that long..... But my concern is that HB8's don't respond that well to direct openers.
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Wow, it's that easy? Well, that's certainly good news to me. Hot girls don't respond well to direct openers eh? Well, first off what's a non direct opener? Like, just post a few examples. Well, I think most of the post here have answered my questions about Number Closes, but there's something else I would like advice on, how would you number close someone that you already know? There are a bunch of HBs in band, who I'm planning to number close on if I get the chance.
 
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viper read my field reprots thread



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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Also I read that short convo u made....its kinda dull, if i were you i would add a little c&f at the begginnig so her ***** shields get lowered, before you attemp the number close.



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I haven't made one number close in the 7 days of school I have had. Of course I haven't tryed, adn if I did atempt for a number, I would get it.

But you need to stop worrying so much about getting numbers, just go with the flow. Be chill. If you want a number, just go "Yo, I want to talk to you later, what's your number?"

Like don't approach a girl in attempt of getting a number, but rather to get to know her, and then you want to get her number, so you can talk to her later.

I never go up to a girl in hope of a number, but just to meet her.
 
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Originally posted by Smooth Player 056
Also I read that short convo u made....its kinda dull, if i were you i would add a little c&f at the begginnig so her ***** shields get lowered, before you attemp the number close.



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Yeah, I'm aware that I'm not a good conversationalist and ****y & funny doesn't come naturally to me.
 
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The absolute GREATEST number close:

(at the end of the conversation - FINISH HER!)

Say, "Hey, what's your phone number") while making eye contact.
 
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