"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Good points... I'm not going to argue though. When i joined this i had no intention of leaving sosuave, just conversing with fellow djs. I know how much it has helped in my past so i know it'll likely continue to do so.

I'm staying here though, in fact your post has inspired me a little to help people out more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
Will you stop thinking about yourself and think about others. What about people that are new to this and are rejected? What are they going to do? Lets say you don't even get into the group because u suck with ladies...so they say "Er...we'll let you and you in but coolguy676767 you just aint up to our level of game, good luck trying to get there with no one to teach you!!!" Then how would you feel?
Geez whats your problem, in case you didnt read it right, I said I am a newbie, I am trying to please everyone, this way newbies who really want help can get it, but people who get pissed off and take advice too personally, or dont contribute or talk get kicked out after a while, I said internship on you friendliness, not on your skill with ladies, geez dude what got up your ass.
 

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Originally posted by coolguy676767
Geez whats your problem, in case you didnt read it right, I said I am a newbie, I am trying to please everyone, this way newbies who really want help can get it, but people who get pissed off and take advice too personally, or dont contribute or talk get kicked out after a while, I said internship on you friendliness, not on your skill with ladies, geez dude what got up your ass.
Do you really think you're the only newbie that wants help?
 

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MIC FIEND - bro... this is not an "abandon ship" of the experienced seducers from the HS board. This is a separate meeting of some real pua's so we can hone are skills. I know that if I were to talk seduction with 99% of the posters in this forum, it would be a one sided conversation. I need a place to ask questions and debate ideas, too.

And this HELPS newbies, because we can vent our frustration away from the boards, learn something, and come back and post about it. Relax, and disassemble that complex.
 

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Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
Do you really think you're the only newbie that wants help?
hmmm.......no.....and what made you think I thought that? lol
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Fast Seduction (where some cat said he was going early in this post) for example. They had a couple posters who decided to create a place specifically for experienced posters (The Lounge: I think it was Mystery, Lovedrop and a couple others) and as a result FS declined rapidly save for some new posters at the time includin Tyler Duerden and Gunwitch just to name a few.
 

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Originally posted by coolguy676767
hmmm.......no.....and what made you think I thought that? lol
Originally posted by coolguy676767
Geez whats your problem, in case you didnt read it right, I said I am a newbie, I am trying to please everyone, this way newbies who really want help can get it, but people who get pissed off and take advice too personally, or dont contribute or talk get kicked out after a while, I said internship on you friendliness, not on your skill with ladies, geez dude what got up your ass.
Perhaps this statement? Damn near every newbie decides to start a new account because they "really want help" Why don't they take every newbie to the board? Sounds a little silly no? How bout the 1st person to kiss ass gets a shot at being a better DJ?
 

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Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
Perhaps this statement? Damn near every newbie decides to start a new account because they "really want help" Why don't they take every newbie to the board? Sounds a little silly no? How bout the 1st person to kiss ass gets a shot at being a better DJ?
Yeah go ahead and take every newbie, and like I said earlier, in my humble opinion, the ones who are most active, the friendliest, and the ones who contribute the most get to stay, other ones will either weed themselves out, or some experienced members cna ask them to leave the discussion, and they can post on the boards if they want. I dont see too much of a problem with this?
 

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im sorry does this not go on is Sosuave? The newbies who want to learn post and the ones who don't just say nonsense? If someone stops posting, that doesn't neccesarily mean that they're not contributing, how do you know they aren't out there making headway with REAL :)eek:) women?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I really dont care that the "good posters" are gone. But i know certain people in here are good and i would like to get in a conversation with some people. If somebody talks bs and gives bs tips or anything ill know, bc im not that new, and if someone gives some useful information, I'll also know when is quality.
 

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add me in too

AIM : Cth3rmos
 

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Just want to say I'm impressed with most of the replies to this post, even though most of the arguements against it are by mic fiend.

I think that we can all agree that a separate forum would be bad, very bad, for everyone. I also don't think that was ever the idea of this.

Lets just assume that we're all trying to make this board better:

We have...

A) Experienced posters
B) Receptive learners and potential puas
C) Dead Weight.

Dead weight are the people that won't like what they read and ditch the whole thing. There are a lot of these people, and since post count means NOTHING (I would know- "master don juan"!? Please, I'm "master" of **** all) you can't distinguish them form the guys that really want to achieve something.

Sounding a bit like jester here, but **** them.

Though this has come across as an idea that aims to split up the people here at the disadvantage of receptive newbies, concider this:

If guys who knew their stuff here got into SEVERAL small groups, that would help them because the whole site would get more personal. This is a GOOD THING! I got chatting with the other HSers from Britain in a small group type thing last year, and it helped a bit (problem was in my opinion none of us were good enough to carry the whole thing). This would still all be done in the same forum as always, it would just give you specific people to look out for and to help you.

These groups would then see when a newbie is receptive and is making an effort. They could pick him out and help him personally. SO it wouldn't be on POST NUMBER but POST QUALITY.

Of course, may be pre-empting (sp?) mic fiend on this one, who cares that much? My sketchy advice: Everyone that has "signed up" for this instead make a concious effort to promote a more helpful and personal board. PM someone if you think they're doing good and such-like.

Ergo:
Be a Don Juan:
Enjoy life;
Self Improve;
Get ass;
Help the new kid:) .
 

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ok

mic fiend - as tony said, this isn't an abandon ship. i know the new guys need the experience some of the older guys have to offer, and i still plan to give it. but until they reach a certain level, theres only so much they can do. we have reached a level where it is necessary to have input and discussion with others in our position

no worries, im not going anywhere
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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errrr... ok?

I dont have AIM... but i have MSN ( [email protected] ) ... So if u can get it going on MSN, then i'll "join" your "crew":D Sounds like fun... blah...


Laterz...
 

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Hmm... I believe that Anthony was telling me about this.

TheMastermind702...
 

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Last time I checked, AIM was def not a good DJ tool, hypocrites!
 

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Originally posted by The Antichrist_Star
Hmm... I believe that Anthony was telling me about this.

TheMastermind702...
You got an MSN address too by any chance?:rolleyes:


Otherwise... anyone else that wants to talk about SoSuave over MSN, let me know;)


Laterz...
 

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Last time I checked, AIM was def not a good DJ tool, hypocrites!
This may be a joke, but on the off chance that it isn't, DJ tools (eugh, hate that phrase) are for macking. As a rule of thumb if you nail someone from this site you don't get any brownie points. Probably a brownie something but it won't be brownie points.

(Sometimes my maturity astounds me.)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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