You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Same.Originally posted by undesputable
Ill apply... Ill post my sn when i find out if im in or not.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I agree with not having newbies... but having experienced djs is important. They'll be able to give more advice, and even though they might not have many fallouts right now... they definatly did in the past.Originally posted by FL BOY
At the same time since only "true don juans" who completely understand the techniques and mindset of gettin girls at will, why not make a crew for peeps who are in the middle stages of this. Not a newbie or someone who just says bs, and not a "true don juan" this would help people share similiar storys and help us out.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
What part of the concept do you not understand. With the great posters gone, who will tell others when someone gives bad ideas? Who will point newbies to the Don Juan bible? Who will tell people to stick in there when things get hard? Who will relate to a certain situation and give insight on what worked for them?Originally posted by NotaGoatLover
....talk about negative thinking...........
Will you stop thinking about yourself and think about others. What about people that are new to this and are rejected? What are they going to do? Lets say you don't even get into the group because u suck with ladies...so they say "Er...we'll let you and you in but coolguy676767 you just aint up to our level of game, good luck trying to get there with no one to teach you!!!" Then how would you feel?Originally posted by coolguy676767
Well I know I know that some people will get mad at the newbies, if only the true djs, form a group then what will it matter cause they are somewhat close to where they need to be, I would say you create a group with anyone who wants to be in it, and then give newbies like myself a kind of internship, where if we get annoying you just cut us out of the group while the newbies will get a better chance at learning from the more experienced ones.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Is this the part where I beg you to stay? You want to leave? Adios...have fun....good luckOriginally posted by NotaGoatLover
well....this forum is full of noobies............. masf is the way to go......
Damn dude... chilll. While there are parts of your post that i find realistic, alot of it just isnt going to happen.Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
What part of the concept do you not understand. With the great posters gone, who will tell others when someone gives bad ideas? Who will point newbies to the Don Juan bible? Who will tell people to stick in there when things get hard? Who will relate to a certain situation and give insight on what worked for them?
Sometimes I wonder why I help people like you because you're so quick to kiss someone's ass you don't stop and think about the possibilities
I agree that it is good to go out and get field experience... but often it can be hard to learn from your mistakes without guidance...Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
Whilst the original poster states that it would be an en vivo So Suave thing, others have asked for it to be away from this thread.
When will people realise you don't get better talking to some online friend... you get better by going out in the the real world and allowing the field to teach you?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.