"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The NC Theory Working (in real time too)?

bigbird090

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Background: About 2 years ago I took this girl out like 3 times. I wasn't too into her, so I flaked on her until I just stopped talking to her and found a new girl who became my gf.

In January 2012, we meet up at this party where her friends tell me she still really likes me and she's looking really attractive (lost some weight, etc). I holla and we set a date for her to come over to my house. She comes a week later, but like 2 hours late and on top of that leaves like within an hour. I act rude and don't even walk her to the door. Then I apologize a couple days later and tell her I like her, but she says I'm just a friend. I ask to meet up with her in person and she ignores my last text.

Tonight, April 2012: I get a text from her "So will you ever speak to me again?"

Now I don't know what to do. I'm kind of desperate, but I still like this girl. I also don't have any other plates.

HELP ME! Should I text back? It's been almost 2 hours since she contacted me.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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TonyBaloney

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Hey bud - be concious with this one - first impressions count - could be that shes trying to get back at you so dont be suprised if it gets to the point of sex and she then bails - i've had that....

But yeah, i'd text back tomorrow....... Tell her you were out with a friend having a meal, "so sorry i couldnt text back" ......that will set her mind working........ if she inquires who with, just laugh and say one of my girls......

Good luck bud ;)
 

Chickfight

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bigbird090 said:
Background: About 2 years ago I took this girl out like 3 times. I wasn't too into her, so I flaked on her until I just stopped talking to her and found a new girl who became my gf.

In January 2012, we meet up at this party where her friends tell me she still really likes me and she's looking really attractive (lost some weight, etc). I holla and we set a date for her to come over to my house. She comes a week later, but like 2 hours late and on top of that leaves like within an hour. I act rude and don't even walk her to the door. Then I apologize a couple days later and tell her I like her, but she says I'm just a friend. I ask to meet up with her in person and she ignores my last text.

Tonight, April 2012: I get a text from her "So will you ever speak to me again?"

Now I don't know what to do. I'm kind of desperate, but I still like this girl. I also don't have any other plates.

HELP ME! Should I text back? It's been almost 2 hours since she contacted me.
Haha funny, some of my friends actually gave me the nickname big bird.

Anyway, couple things you could have done better. Why apologize for being rude? She was 2 hours late. It was completely warranted. Never apologize unless you actually did something wrong. Then you tell her you LIKE her? Noonoo, never tell a girl you like her before she tells you she likes you. This will get you friendzoned almost every time. Cause it's desperate and needy.

Now she's texting you cause she most likely wants you as an orbiter. Don't fall for this trap. Being an orbiter is like being in the 8th gate of hell. Since you have nothing to lose though, I'd text back "Hmm, probably not". Her reply should make things fairly clear.

Keep me updated.
 

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Chickfight said:
Haha funny, some of my friends actually gave me the nickname big bird.

Anyway, couple things you could have done better. Why apologize for being rude? She was 2 hours late. It was completely warranted. Never apologize unless you actually did something wrong. Then you tell her you LIKE her? Noonoo, never tell a girl you like her before she tells you she likes you. This will get you friendzoned almost every time. Cause it's desperate and needy.

Now she's texting you cause she most likely wants you as an orbiter. Don't fall for this trap. Being an orbiter is like being in the 8th gate of hell. Since you have nothing to lose though, I'd text back "Hmm, probably not". Her reply should make things fairly clear.

Keep me updated.

I texted her back like 3 hours after she hit me up. My text was "I wondered the same about you". No response yet...I think she might be messing with me...
 

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Chargfe this chick to the game. She only wants your attention since you flaked out on her back in the day. She can smell the thirstiness that you have. When she showed up 2 hours later you should have just not let her in. That was very disrespectful and as a mack in training you shouldn't allow for any disrespect to go unchecked.

Just drop this broad again and go after more chicks. This girl is just trying to get her Ego on.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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GhengisT

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PrettyBoyAJ said:
Chargfe this chick to the game. She only wants your attention since you flaked out on her back in the day. She can smell the thirstiness that you have. When she showed up 2 hours later you should have just not let her in. That was very disrespectful and as a mack in training you shouldn't allow for any disrespect to go unchecked.

Just drop this broad again and go after more chicks. This girl is just trying to get her Ego on.
^^^^ Word!
 

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bigbird090 said:
I texted her back like 3 hours after she hit me up. My text was "I wondered the same about you". No response yet...I think she might be messing with me...
That's a pretty lame response, but whatever. AJ is right, ditch the hoe. If she contacts you, ignore or send her a cold non supplicating response. Focus your energy elsewhere.
 

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Once a girl sees you at your worst it's game over for you with her, forever. When you let her be a b*tch to you and then you apologize and tell her you like her??

WTF???

Young girls like extreme as*hole behavior. When they're 16-20 you have to be a complete and utter d*ck to them. You can't let up and you can never show a soft side.
 

SoldMySoul

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Zarky said:
Once a girl sees you at your worst it's game over for you with her, forever. When you let her be a b*tch to you and then you apologize and tell her you like her??

WTF???

Young girls like extreme as*hole behavior. When they're 16-20 you have to be a complete and utter d*ck to them. You can't let up and you can never show a soft side.
:kick: Been there and very true. You have NO hopes of turning things around once they have seen you at your worst.
 

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bigbird090 said:
Background: About 2 years ago I took this girl out like 3 times. I wasn't too into her, so I flaked on her until I just stopped talking to her and found a new girl who became my gf.

In January 2012, we meet up at this party where her friends tell me she still really likes me and she's looking really attractive (lost some weight, etc). I holla and we set a date for her to come over to my house. She comes a week later, but like 2 hours late and on top of that leaves like within an hour. I act rude and don't even walk her to the door. Then I apologize a couple days later and tell her I like her, but she says I'm just a friend. I ask to meet up with her in person and she ignores my last text.

Tonight, April 2012: I get a text from her "So will you ever speak to me again?"

Now I don't know what to do. I'm kind of desperate, but I still like this girl. I also don't have any other plates.

HELP ME! Should I text back? It's been almost 2 hours since she contacted me.
So a girl sent you one text in April when she ignored you since January, and you think no contact is working (in real time). OK.

1) NC is only supposed to help you get over her, not help you win her. Very rarely does the latter happen.
2) She NC'd YOU. Not the other way around. And it's clear that it had you hooked on how quick you jumped on a text 3 months later.

Never enter a woman's frame. She's trying to be serious and pin this all on you. You should have sent a light hearted response or a joke. You texted "I was wondering the same about you" after which she confirmed you are still a chump and will proceed to never text you again.

I can tell you are not spinning plates or looking at other women. If you were, you wouldn't jump on this woman who makes you wait 3 months for a text and when it comes, it insults you. Respect yourself and next time don't dignify a woman who insults you with genuine responses.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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