The Myth of the Quality Woman

[penkitten]

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Look, people cheat. Men cheat. Women cheat.

Not everyone, but a LOT, and, apparently, the incidence is on the rise. (Although I suspect maybe not - -- maybe we just hear more about it now.)

THOSE are the cards we are dealt. We just have to accept and deal with it. Wishing will not make it go away. The way things are in society today, you HAVE to at least be aware. How you decide to handle it is up to you. I have my own way.

And, unfortunately, we will not be able to change these unpleasant facts. Things are the way they are.

Live life, enjoy people for who they are, lower your demands on them, and move on in life-- with or without a given person. We each can choose.
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i agree that anyone could cheat on anyone of us at any time and we just have to choose how to react and how to move past it.
people choose to cheat because they wanted to and anything else is just an excuse.

 

[ketostix]

people choose to cheat because they wanted to and anything else is just an excuse.

Totally agree there. And I would extend that to everything else people do in regard to relationships. I just wished you'd apply that same reasoning to the history of women thread thogugh. It's just the hypocrisy and deception that women engage in I think that gets to most men.

 

[bigjohnson]

people choose to cheat because they wanted to and anything else is just an excuse.

I think that's true and also an over-simplification. People eat because they want too as well. Doesn't mean other factors don't come into it. Double negative is free.

 

[jophil28]

Women have been told that "they can have it all " WE know that they cannot BUT they seen to believe that feminist BS. SO what do they do -

They marry a Beta ( he is controllable) to ensure that they get "security" and "provisioning" as RT puts it. She pumps out a kid or two and drives 'em round in a green minivan to soccer and ballet and dismisses the husband to the background. He works later and later and plays 18 holes every opportunity and watches internet porn/ She watches "Desperate HouseHors" and lusts after the pool guy.
Seven years in, she decides that she is " unfullfiled" and needs to "find herself " (with the assistance of a feminsist counselor plus the urgings of her idiot G/friends)
Being a women automatically gives her the luxury of blaming men for all the misfortune that comes her way so she "decides " that HE is the problem ( the counselor and the baitch G/ friends agree ) So she has an affair or files for separation.....they go to counseling (same nazi) and he is bulldozed by psychodrivel.
They get a divorce, he wonders WTF just hit him after losing his money, his dignity and his mind in the Family court and he winds up posting here on MM..
She dumps the pool guy and goes out dating for a few years looking for another walking wallet - finds noboby willing to adopt her and her tribe and eventually posts on LOVESHACK about how there are "no good men "

The reality - she originally married a beta to pay her way.
This guarantees that her emotions will flaten out quickly and any small amount of "chemistry" will disappear . She had an affair to make her "feel " desired and desireable again.
She left a marriage and disrupted the kids lives permanently and crushed the hopes and aspirations of her husband. Why ? Because she was not "feeling" the brain chemical rush any more ( she calls it "being unhappy").
Freakin' brain chemicals !!

 

[ketostix]

Women have been told that "they can have it all " WE know that they cannot BUT they seen to believe that feminist BS. SO what do they do -

They marry a Beta ( he is controllable) to ensure that they get "security" and "provisioning" as RT puts it. She pumps out a kid or two and drives 'em round in a green minivan to soccer and ballet and dismisses the husband to the background. He works later and later and plays 18 holes every opportunity and watches internet porn/ She watches "Desperate HouseHors" and lusts after the pool guy.
Seven years in, she decides that she is " unfullfiled" and needs to "find herself " (with the assistance of a feminsist counselor plus the urgings of her idiot G/friends)
Being a women automatically gives her the luxury of blaming men for all the misfortune that comes her way so she "decides " that HE is the problem ( the counselor and the baitch G/ friends agree ) So she has an affair or files for separation.....they go to counseling (same nazi) and he is bulldozed by psychodrivel.
They get a divorce, he wonders WTF just hit him after losing his money, his dignity and his mind in the Family court and he winds up posting here on MM..
She dumps the pool guy and goes out dating for a few years looking for another walking wallet - finds noboby willing to adopt her and her tribe and eventually posts on LOVESHACK about how there are "no good men "

The reality - she originally married a beta to pay her way.
This guarantees that her emotions will flaten out quickly and any small amount of "chemistry" will disappear . She had an affair to make her "feel " desired and desireable again.
She left a marriage and disrupted the kids lives permanently and crushed the hopes and aspirations of her husband. Why ? Because she was not "feeling" the brain chemical rush any more ( she calls it "being unhappy").
Freakin' brain chemicals !!

That's pretty much exactly how it transpires.

 

[penkitten]

I think that's true and also an over-simplification. People eat because they want too as well. Doesn't mean other factors don't come into it. Double negative is free.

sure but some people choose to eat healthy all the time, whereas another eats junk all the time.
some try to diet and then they cheat on the diet at mcds but lie to everyone about it so they can save face.
so if someone cheats on their diet, it is because they wanted to.

 

[Nighthawk]

Women have been told that "they can have it all " WE know that they cannot BUT they seen to believe that feminist BS. SO what do they do -

They marry a Beta ( he is controllable) to ensure that they get "security" and "provisioning" as RT puts it. She pumps out a kid or two and drives 'em round in a green minivan to soccer and ballet and dismisses the husband to the background. He works later and later and plays 18 holes every opportunity and watches internet porn/ She watches "Desperate HouseHors" and lusts after the pool guy.
Seven years in, she decides that she is " unfullfiled" and needs to "find herself " (with the assistance of a feminsist counselor plus the urgings of her idiot G/friends)
Being a women automatically gives her the luxury of blaming men for all the misfortune that comes her way so she "decides " that HE is the problem ( the counselor and the baitch G/ friends agree ) So she has an affair or files for separation.....they go to counseling (same nazi) and he is bulldozed by psychodrivel.
They get a divorce, he wonders WTF just hit him after losing his money, his dignity and his mind in the Family court and he winds up posting here on MM..
She dumps the pool guy and goes out dating for a few years looking for another walking wallet - finds noboby willing to adopt her and her tribe and eventually posts on LOVESHACK about how there are "no good men "

You are a bitter woman-hater! Except you have quite accurately described modern society. True Love is dead, and women killed it. I say we nuke the place and let the ****roaches have their turn.

 

[joekerr31]

jophil hit hte nail on the head.

the root problem is that many women take ZERO responsibility for their own happiness. they see it as externally dependent. the man they have, the kids they ahve, the house, their job, etc.

hence they are never happy.

and an unhappy woman will almost NEVER blame herself for those emotions. she will always blame it on external things.

and 99.9 times out of a 100, the easiest person to blame everything on is the poor schmuck who was dumb enough to throw his lot in life in with her.

they can't blame their boss, cuz he won't stand for that crap and will fire them. they can't blame the kids, cuz the kids haven't done anything wrong. they can't blame the house or car, since those thigns are inanimate objects. really, the only one left to kick is either the husband or the dog.

 

[joekerr31]

You are a bitter woman-hater! Except you have quite accurately described modern society. True Love is dead, and women killed it. I say we nuke the place and let the ****roaches have their turn.

jophil is really hitting the nail on the head later. the guys on fire.

but all that said, dont give up hope on all women. im TELLING you guys, there are TONS TONS TONS of lonely women out there who DO appreciate a good man.

i know, they are less than before, but they do exist. this is why you gotta spin spin spin the plates until you find one.

 

[Latinoman]

I believe in the "quality" and "low quality" thing.

And I strongly believe there are MORE "quality" women out there than DJs (males).

"High quality"? I would say that the "high" account for like 10% of the U.S. population. If you add the "quality" (without the "high") then that number might go up to 25%.

"Low quality"? That goes hand on hand with AFCs (males). I would say that TRUE DJs are about 5%. The RAFCs add another 15-20% to that number (making DJs and RAFCs a 25%). That balance things out, IMO.

 

[Last Man Standing]

...She watches "Desperate HouseHors" and lusts after the pool guy.!

Deperate HouseHors" - You are stealing my material It's not copyrighted so it's ok!

 

[ketostix]

And I strongly believe there are MORE "quality" women out there than DJs (males).

I totally disagree that there's more quality girls out there then quality guys. However, I wouldn't generally disagree that maybe 25% of the female population might be quality. I also think 5% of the male population is tieing up a majority of the quality girls.

 

[Latinoman]

I totally disagree that there's more quality girls out there then quality guys.

I NEVER used the term "quality" when referring to man. I used the term DJ. There plenty of "quality" men out there as there plenty of "nice guys" out there. But not every quality man is a DJ.

 

[jophil28]

Deperate HouseHors" - You are stealing my material It's not copyrighted so it's ok!

Im relieved that I am not gonna get a writ from you LMS. I had my lawyer on standby....

 

[Last Man Standing]

I think that integrity is more of a natural quality in men, meaning it is a product of both our genetics and our upbringing.

Do you know why? It is because when men lose their integrity they die - when women lose it there are no repercussions - but men still die!!

 

[iqqi]

It is because when men lose their integrity they die !

Ha! I WISH.

 

[DavenJuan]

i would much rather have my GF be physically attracted and act on those emotions, than emotionally attracted and act on those

Both would suck royally, but there is always going to be someone better looking, but having someone your with emotionally into someone else just seems worse

 

[joekerr31]

Do you know why? It is because when men lose their integrity they die - when women lose it there are no repercussions - but men still die!!

f*cking brilliant response.

its true. whether in the mob or politics, men who can't be loyal to the 'pack' get discarded.

 

[Interceptor]

The way I see it is, from LMS's response, is that it is not a physical death per se. But the death of an identity, of character, of a man.
Without integrity he is No One.
When AFCs bend to the whims and moods of women to try to make them like him more, they are in effect killing themselves.
Their SELF.
Since the AFC has probably never had a proper masculine role model, perhaps he even has disdain for masculinity as well, it is easy for him to reconfigure himself around to what the woman wants, or says she wants.
By not sticking to his well developed sense of identity, and character, and playing it safe at all costs, he is effectively killing his psyche, his id, everything he knows.

Know Thyself.

Very important lesson, in so few words.

By sparing ourselves the ill perceived "pain" of rejection and failure, we regress.
Dr, Paul states that humans must make decisions in order to survive.
If you decide to NOT make any decisions at all, to spare yourself pain, you will die in seven days.
I read a quote as someone's sig, to paraphrase it said "Don't live life safely, make decisions wisely." Something to that effect.

Men must take risks, Men must have courage in order to lead. This cannot happen if you have self pity, self doubt, and irrational fears.

Thus, Men being the true Leaders of society are compelled to maintain their integrity. Their character, morals, and ethics.
For society aligns with these ideals.
Sure, there can be more compassion, understanding, tolerance, and patience in the world.
But without integrity, these traits will not manifest.

 

[jophil28]

The way I see it is, from LMS's response, is that it is not a physical death per se. But the death of an identity, of character, of a man.
Without integrity he is No One.
When AFCs bend to the whims and moods of women to try to make them like him more, they are in effect killing themselves.
Their SELF.
Since the AFC has probably never had a proper masculine role model, perhaps he even has disdain for masculinity as well, it is easy for him to reconfigure himself around to what the woman wants, or says she wants.
By not sticking to his well developed sense of identity, and character, and playing it safe at all costs, he is effectively killing his psyche, his id, everything he knows.

Know Thyself.

Very important lesson, in so few words.

By sparing ourselves the ill perceived "pain" of rejection and failure, we regress.
Dr, Paul states that humans must make decisions in order to survive.
If you decide to NOT make any decisions at all, to spare yourself pain, you will die in seven days.
I read a quote as someone's sig, to paraphrase it said "Don't live life safely, make decisions wisely." Something to that effect.

Men must take risks, Men must have courage in order to lead. This cannot happen if you have self pity, self doubt, and irrational fears.

Thus, Men being the true Leaders of society are compelled to maintain their integrity. Their character, morals, and ethics.
For society aligns with these ideals.
Sure, there can be more compassion, understanding, tolerance, and patience in the world.
But without integrity, these traits will not manifest.

Great post Interceptor - the next question is " What do we mean by INTEGRITY ?
Literally it just means "whole " or "complete" .. Perhaps that definition is sufficient .