The Muscular-Smart Conundrum

[Single_Sucks]

Hello all,
observe this conundrum:

A.) Women like strong guys that work out, with muscles. Many women confess to this by way of talking, buying hunks 2008 calenders, perving over celebrities etc. Of course they all say they don't want freakishly large muscles but hell that ain't happening to average Joe any day soon. Anyway I digress. I have found that the best common way to display my muscles to women is to wear short sleeved t-shirts. After all I want them to appreciate my hard work and I want it to work in my favour in the dating game.

B.) Women value men with status, resources and money. Evidenced by all them gold-diggers out there. They also like a man who gets respect and who looks powerful. To accomplish the high status image one would firstly think about dressing smartly, with a long sleeve shirt.

The thing is you can't wear both of these items at once and in theory one of them must be better than other. One of these options must be more efficient at making a good first impression, but which one?

Maybe each image appeals to different chicks, but which will make me more successful at dating in the long run?

 

[Warboss Alex]

Two points:

1. There are such a thing as smart short-sleeved shirts.

2. If you can only display your musculature with a short sleeved shirt, then you're not actually very muscular anyway.

 

[Rho]

If you are in good shape it shows with any fitted clothes that you wear.

Also, if you wear clothes that are too tight you end up looking like a try hard meathead.

 

[DarthAngel707]

This forum is for people who have and are working on their game, both inner and outer.

It is not for the men who parade their muscles and/or status to the women as if to say, "This is my ticket to your pants and I don't have to be interesting or funny since I already have a lot of money and I'm jacked.
Sleep with me now."

And to answer your question, it is your body image and face but not necessarily your muscles. This should be in health and fitness.

 

[Single_Sucks]

Once again, not talking about HUGE steroid junkies.

 

[Warboss Alex]

But the average formal shirt will hide muscles (unless they are HUGE, but I ain't talking about that).

The average formal shirt may hide your arms, but (provided it's the right size for you) it will not hide big shoulders, a big back, a big chest and most crucially of all, a big yoke! Same goes for the lower body too, this ain't all about the arms (which is the only visible part of your body in a short sleeve t-shirt anyway).

You don't have to be huge for your musculature to be visible through more formal wear. But you need to dress in clothes that fit you, and have SOME size.

 

[Single_Sucks]

So nobody else thinks there is a muscular-smart conumndrum then? lol

 

[SmoothTalker]

I can sort of see what you're saying but I don't think its much of a conundrum.. Wear properly fitted clothes, if you have a good body it will show through enough. Just give the girls a hint, they'll have to get you naked to see what's really there, which isn't such a bad thing.

In certain situations a short sleeve t-shirt works and you can 'show off' your arms. In others a different style works better. Neither is ideal for all situations.

 

[Warrior74]

I knew this guy from dubai...wait that sounds like a lymric....
but anyway this guy was about 38-39 and jacked like as hell, wore armani suits, drove a nice car, huge house. He was intelligent and muscular, you could just look at his frame in clothing and tell he was jacked. Needless to say when we rolled out to bars he had all the women all over him. btw he never wore short sleeves when going out. he never tried to show off...you can look at a person and tell if they are jacked or not by how their clothing fits.

 

[chinwaggler]

polo shirts, girls like them when they're fitted

 

[Chipleader]

Go for clothing described as "slim fitting". Doesnt matter whether the sleeves are long or short. And the notion long sleeve shirts are a sign of "being powerful" and status is laughable. Try wearing a smart fashionable braclet with your short sleeve shirt.

 

[AirborneDoc82ndABN]

Dude, most women have seen enough men with their shirts/clothes on and off that they can tell if you're working with something underneath. I don't think you need to rock super tight shirts or anything, just fitted and that look good on you depending on your style.

And as for displaying status/money.. that will come out when you talk to her and she sees how you speak and carry yourself..

Just my thoughts on the subject

 

[In2theGame]

You can tell if a guy is built no matter what he wears. im pretty big myself and you can tell i have a muscular back and shoulders and sometimes chest, depending on how well the shirt fits. when a guy wears a t shirt, you can definitly tell. I like to wear fitted shirts because they feel comfy but you could tell when someone is trying to hard to showoff their muscles. ive seen guys wearing a t shirt that looks like a F**kin Turtle neck because its too tight. i think that makes you look more of an idiot than anything. Wearing fitted shirts are cool, wearing shirts that look like a spandex turtleneck is rediculous.

 

[Furyguy]

I usually wear a nice shirt with the sleeves rolled up neatly. I get way too hot without the sleeves up anyways, especially in a club or something.

Most women seem to claim all they want is a 6-pack anyways. I've heard a lot of girls say a dude has a "great physique" about a scrawny emaciated lookin dude (like 6'0 120 lbs.) just cause you could see his abs... ribs too. I'm still banking on the fact that what women have no idea what the **** they really want anyways, but I'm wondering how true this is about looks.

 

[Single_Sucks]

of girls say a dude has a "great physique" about a scrawny emaciated lookin dude (like 6'0 120 lbs.) just cause you could see his abs

Rarity. The number of guys with good muscles is still very few in the general population. Girls seem to just be glad to have a bit of musclature there. Plus...they don't understand the science of bodybuilding at all, lol.

but you could tell when someone is trying to hard to showoff their muscles. ive seen guys wearing a t shirt that looks like a F**kin Turtle neck because its too tight

Yeah, I don't know what's with these guys. I think that any piece of clothing will look strange if it's too tight.

the notion long sleeve shirts are a sign of "being powerful" and status is laughable

I like this, by far the most poignant point made. Dressing smartly just isn't rare these days. Anyone can do it, every lad out there has a few nice shirts and it really DOES NOT reflect money, status or power at all these days. Maybe a century ago...but not now.

 

[Rounder]

A few thoughts here -

Don't forget to work your legs and back. Squats and Deadlifts should be priority for anyone lifting. If you're in shape and your pants fit properly the women will be able to tell.

Hands - if you are in shape, lift, hit some cardio and eat properly - your hands will show it and so will your neck.

As much as women like a man who is muscular they also will go out with guys with no muscle or too much fat. Just like we do.

I think Jamie Easton is hot but I'd also take a turn with Kim Kardashian.

More often than not I think being in shape and/or muscular gives a guy the confidence he needs to succeed, rather than just the muscles getting him the girl he was after.

 

[oakraiderz2]

You overanalyze far too much.

 

[Furyguy]

Plus...they don't understand the science of bodybuilding at all, lol.

Seriously, this annoys me to no end.

More often than not I think being in shape and/or muscular gives a guy the confidence he needs to succeed, rather than just the muscles getting him the girl he was after.

A great point, the benefits of being in great shape go way beyond physical attractiveness.


Big forearms and calves are definitely a rarity, and pretty badass looking imo.

 

[Single_Sucks]

WOMEN don't understand the science of bodybuilding

hence they think a skinny guy has an AMAZING six pack even though he dosn't, it just shows because he's so thin and bony

 

[Quiksilver]

hence they think a skinny guy has an AMAZING six pack even though he dosn't, it just shows because he's so thin and bony

So true.

I used to hang out with a bunch of girls last year pretty regularly. One day I decided to take them to my best friends house, because he has a hottub and because he's awesome. We get there and he's out on his patio with no shirt on.. Let's just say he's a skinny mofo. He's like 5'9, 125.

They thought he was "ripped".

I just scratched my head.