The Master PUA Theory

[Eric Smith]

Introduction

A lot of people have come to this board looking for that end-all, be-all solution to get girls eating out of your hand. So they read through scores of useless, repetitive posts in search for that golden nugget of information that can help you out. Posts asking for sexual activity show that most people on this board are virgins - going up to hundreds. The Master PUA is one we all want to be but too many people are going about it the wrong way or the original theories are wrong in the first place.

What is the Master PUA or is there even one?

A lot of people here like to live in dreams of fantasy. They watch movies like James Bond, a fictional character, and want to base their life off of him. However James Bond isn't real and so are many of these so called "techniques" on getting girls. The truth is that sometimes, no matter how tight your game is, it will not work with everyone. Much like how it is in life, the bell curve most definitely applies with women. What is the curve? Well, let me get to the point of that:

1% of the girls you come across will want to jump your bones if you ever get stuck alone in the same room together
15% of the girls find you attractive
68% of the girls you come across don't really care because its just business as usual
15% of the girls do not find you attractive
1% of the girls are repulsed by your existence

Its just like that. Of course there may be factors that vary up the percentages but not by much. Most girls you will come across will be indifferent to you unless you are famous but then again, thats the varying percentages. I know a lot of people love to assume the only girls that hate you are man hating feminazis but thats not true. A mixture of all kinds of people fit. Yes, it could even be your secret crush you've had all along. Yet no matter how much of a "DJ" you are, you will never get near her pants. Never.

The truth is, there is no Master PUA. With my theory, you can have at most 86% of the girls. Seems like a lot but keep in mind, nobody will ever hit that number or anywhere within 10-20% of it.

The Fables Of The 1000 Scores

A lot of people here are shady. However its not that tough but I'm going to maybe make some people pissed but it doesn't matter because this site needs to stop living a lie. The truth here is that so many people are afraid of anything new. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if this thread never gets a post because its a new concept on this board; its an alien thread. So many people do nothing but idolize posts made 2-3 years ago that some authors later down the road even admitted that they've changed their minds. I offered to make a DJ Bible 2 featuring new articles by people but got no responses. Why? I'm not shocked because a lot of people here are whats best described as "dreamers." They relish in fantasies of controlling every female possible, getting laid hundreds of times, and thinking they are the supreme Alpha.

Alpha males are a good structure to follow by...if you actually are. People here follow James Bond but in reality, he would have been shot dead. You're not a superstar spy that can evade everyone and their dog. You are you. Its like some people really are afraid of just being themselves and true to their nature. Yes, you can improve yourself but why do that for the sake of females? You're just a fraud that is nothing more than a skirtchaser and once your looks are gone, you got nothing. Well, just you and your fantasies of conquering the world without offering anything. Yes, the ******* gets laid but so does the nerd. Hell, most of the population is screwing, its not like ***** is some inachievable good.

A lot of people here are brainwashed. How? Most people can post the most useless fluff ever but have some kind of hook and a story and you're in. I'm not talking about Pook. I'm talking about a certain man that claims to travel the world and have all kinds of mystic occupations but has no realistic timeframe unless he switches occupations next week and happened to find a huge bag of cash. His hook was nothing more than just posting himself in the third person and making all kinds of latin references. Add an interesting story plus nothing more than common sense and is proposed as a prophet. Seems like flamebait because I'd rather have frauds exposed and catch heat than an innocent newbie believing stories that even Weekly World News wouldn't bother covering. Yet people still flock to these story tellers.

I shouldn't even begin to delve into the people that actually pay for this stuff. I don't hate on the sellers because they're making good money off saps who think there is more to getting girls than being interesting, in good physical shape, and has confidence.

Well, since you are debunking so many, why should we believe you?

You don't have to if you don't want to. Hell, I don't care but this is coming from a person who read all this BS and once it was found to be just that - BS, the more aggravating it became. People are just perpetuating this crap. For all you know, you could have had the girl by saying "Hi." People are talking about having spicy conversations and **** like that but if you want to be a chump and do so, go for it. Trust me, you're not fooling anyone.

I'm sure haters would claim I'm a AFC just so they can sleep better at night in which case maybe they should say something because given how fragile their emotions are, the more lies, the better.

 

[Engetsu]

This is interesting. You might be right, and I'll continue living my life while keeping in mind what you just posted. It's true that it doesn't take much technique to "seduce" a girl. I used to think but I was proved wrong by recent experiences. As long as the conversation flows correctly and you don't act as an ******* (no need to be a seduction god either), you can get the girl.

Now about your Mr. Digits-of-the-hand, not to name any names, if it couldn't get any more obvious than that, well I haven't read all of his stuff... So I really can't say much about that.

But I fully agree on one thing that you've said: people are afraid of change. If Bush is re-elected [sorry for straying off-topic], you will have validated your point to the extreme.

 

[Walden]

The bell curve was interesting I didn't understand the rest.

 

[Don Ronny]

I offered to make a DJ Bible 2 featuring new articles by people but got no responses. Why?

I did the same thing and now I see why no one gave a shyt.

Talk is cheap my man. You would get a much better reaction if you actually did the work and presented it, instead of mentioning an idea you had. Do you think Matrix or Fingers or Pook asks for permission before they post an idea? NO! THey simply post and let the chips fall where they may.

I get the sense that you are bitter because you have read all this material and havent progressed much. I also notice that you have not received much of a warm response here. I remember you posted your own series a while back and though it was not bad, it was incredibly boring and you got flamed pretty bad.

I actually like you though. You remind me of my former self, so let me give you some advice pal.

Here is the problem...

You spent all this time away from this site and instead of coming back with field reports and actual tips based on your experiences, you bash other posters. So all this time you were away what did you do? Did you practice your skills on women? Or contemplate the inner workings of SoSuave.com?

From one man to another, let me just say that you need to stop focusing on others and really worry about yourself. Instead of complaining about the crap advice here (and ironically adding to the crap pile with your complaints) How about you post some GOLD instead?

Your post here is not really a tip at all. IT is you venting your frustration. What a waste of energy!

Here is the solution...

I suggest you leave again and dont come back until you have something worthwhile to contribute, something based on your EXPERIENCE. Right now your words have "keyboard jockey" written all over them!

Sorry if I sound harsh but I think you need a swift kick in the pants.

 

[Eric Smith]

I get the sense that you are bitter because you have read all this material and havent progressed much

I have progressed, its just me looking back and seeing what was the Real McCoy and what was just a bunch of liars with great anecdotes.

I remember you posted your own series a while back and though it was not bad, it was incredibly boring and you got flamed pretty bad.

I admit it was a little stale and my thoughts on the subject matter weren't even really discussed in my series of threads (it was basically about being true to yourself but I threw too much other stuff in and not enough about the actual point I wanted to make) but it doesn't matter if people don't like me because I'm not a name brand. When people see a Pook post made, you have hundreds of little lap dogs circling around him commenting on whats great. I like Pook, I'm not dissing him because it seems like his posts are more revelations of reality, not BS "seduction" tactics that in hindsight do more bad than good. However most people stick to him like glue because he's a big name. Its like Metallica. Most people I doubt could name anything they did before Black Album but because they are a popular band, people still like them.

you bash other posters

Just the latin multi digited member here, I don't bash anyone. The reason why I bash him is because he's talking out of his ass. Notice he brings nothing new to the table (I am this but let me explain) but because he has some inane latin stories and "I used to be you!" stories, he is able to have the masses eat out of his hand.

Right now your words have "keyboard jockey" written all over them!

Thats cool if you think that way. Its not true but thats cool. The reason why I don't post field reports? Because nobody cares about them...they are a dime a dozen. Why not any tips? The only tips I have to offer is use your own personality as a strength, be in good shape, and be confident. Thats it. Getting women is not meaning that you have to pretend you are saving the world from Blofeld and SPECTRE, its biology. I've been using this and harvesting numbers like it was an autumn crop. Well, I got about 8 numbers in the past 3 days from hot girls but I wasn't C+F, I didn't drop one neghit, and all I did was follow my three suggestions. They were all pretty hot too but I'm not going to brag about that crap more than I have already.

The only time I'll act like an alpha lion or Conan is when I'm really like that. If you're not alpha, just trying to be alpha will make you look as a fraud. Its like the beach whale thinking she is the next Cindy Crawford and thinks the world owes her a favor. You think of girls like these as fools, it works the same way the other way around.

I could post those tips but odds are it will fall to the bottom in favor of more BS methods like pretending you are 007 or something you're not; anything other than your personality.

The bell curve was interesting I didn't understand the rest.

I think its true. Of course its not a perfect curve as this is for the very most common man. Nothing good or bad about him, average in every way. However nothing is really that perfect but lets say you are a celebrity, it would go something like this:

20% want to jump your bones
30% find you attractive
20% don't care
30% find you repulsive

Why? There isn't much of an indifference region because more people know about you and assess judgment. The repulsive meter goes up because some people are haters like that. Look at the multitude of threads/posts made online on how Britney isn't hot and you'll see my point. My point being that you can have a lot of game but sometimes you can be the perfect man and still get rejections.

It's true that it doesn't take much technique to "seduce" a girl

Yep. Its biology, not brain surgery.

But I fully agree on one thing that you've said: people are afraid of change. If Bush is re-elected [sorry for straying off-topic], you will have validated your point to the extreme.

Yes. One of the best threads ever I think was MOTU's revelation thread. Yes, it seems like I'm as much of a MOTU groupie as many people are Pook groupies. He had a lot of ideas that didn't strike me as good at first but the more experience I got with girls, the more I went out with them, the more his stuff made sense. While this was enough to change the whole schooling on seduction, it was eventually just shoved aside because most people would rather stick to what people do more. I believe Bush will get re-elected but odds are I will vote for Kerry.

 

[Don Ronny]

I guess my point is why try to discredit Fingers as a fraud when you could post something constructive? There are plenty of posters here who I think are full of crap, but I dont go posting threads about it. Just seems like a waste of time to me. It also makes you seem petty and jealous.

It would be one thing if these guys were charging for their information and holding seminars, but they offer it freely and this is how you respond? Wack dude.

My humble opinion is that you crave the sort of feedback and attention that Pook and Fingz get. I remember how disappointed you got when your threads got shot down. All that effort and nobody really cared. I would be pissed too!

but whatever man. if bashing someone else makes you feel like more of a DJ, then I say go for it