"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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the lowest a man can fall...

drak_ool

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saw this on TV yesterday and I still can't get over it... It was on Maury, a show to which I will definitely devote more of my time, very educational.

THE GUY: average joe, decent face, not skinny, not overweight (couldn't tell if he worked out because of the baggy clothes).

THE GIRL: a fat monster. Describing her as a whale would do a great injustice to those gracious sea creatures. She was disgusting by any standards.

THE PROBLEM: guy thought she was cheating on him, especially during a certain trip she took to vegas w/ her coworkers, and somebody other than him fathered their two babies. He vowed to leave her if his suspicions were true.

I simply could not believe any guy could date a girl like this, let alone show up on TV and show the entire nation his "prize". To make matters worst, he put himself in a lose-lose situation: even if he is the father, she could still have cheated (probably with a gorilla or a World's Strongest Man reject).

The paternity test showed that he was the real father so this uber-AFC got on his knees and begged her for forgiveness, all the while she was shouting "I fvcking told you" into his face. She looked so big compared to him, it seemed she could have killed him by simply sliding off the chair and crashing on top of him.

this to me was a serious wake-up call. What the hell is happening to guys in the US? is the vast majority getting so desperate they would rather cling to w/er piece of ass they can get rather than be alone?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Exactly, the other day one guy was saying that it is so cool that most guys are AFC`S, it isn´t cool, many women are so arrogant and feel so superior to men because of AFC´s... Fat nerd guys, don´t get laid.....actually you can be average or good looking and don´t get laid. But every women fvcks when she wants.

The only reason I see why this happens is because of puberty,women mature earlier and get so hot while we get taller and skinny with acne... And we start seeing them as superior... But this is just a few years... man can stay fit longer than women, but the puberty trauma is always there..
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
The only reason I see why this happens is because of puberty,women mature earlier and get so hot while we get taller and skinny with acne... And we start seeing them as superior... But this is just a few years... man can stay fit longer than women, but the puberty trauma is always there..
I agree. Something recovering AFCs should remember is that we become more attractive with time, while most women peak in attractiveness between 18 - 25.
 

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You do know that those shows are usually staged, right?
 

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the root of the problem is not only puberty, it's also the society we live in that raises us to believe a ton of myths about women and relationships in general. How many movies have you watched where the shy nerd ends up with the hottest girl in his town? how many times have you seen that happen in real life? that's right, never!

Even with all that being said, I still can't understand how a healthy, average looking 25 y.o. male can live happily with a 300 lbs woman. how can he get his dyck up?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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horaholic said:
You do know that those shows are usually staged, right?
thank you! Indeed, I did some research online and it seems Maury and Jerry Springer are staged to some extent. However, I doubt the relationship was staged in this one, as the guy was obviously the father of the girls.

This is just one example of a very disturbing trend that I noticed of average looking guys being stuck in relationships with disgusting looking females (I'm talking 250 lbs and over).

I am really interested in what kind of factors can create a mentality where it is not only ok to hook-up with a whale, but even date/marry her...
 
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