"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The kiss: what's your style to make it happen?

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Two things to share:

1. The great majority of us have been there. It's the end of a good night (or perhaps during the night) out with a girl you like. You're thinking about it and she's thinking about it. As men, we are expected to initiate the kiss. So how do you make it happen for yourself?

2. I went out with a girl tonight. We went for a ride on my motorcycle, played air hockey and then went to the swings at a park. It was a lot of fun and she liked it as well. Usually, I have a game that we play where if I win she kisses me. And if I she wins, she gets to pick one thing she wants me to do (e.g., sing, dance). However, about two blocks before I dropped her home tonight, my motorcycle decided to run out of gas (no low gas light on some bikes). I literally had to push my bike three blocks down the street :crackup:

When I dropped her off...something in my gut prevented me from kissing her. Perhaps it was embarrassment from having run out of gas, but definitely not fear. She looked up to me and then hugged me. She kept telling me that I'm funny and started saying "next time we should..." to which I responded. "Next time? Oooh la la, I think she likes me ;)" to which she responded "haha, a little ;)." What do you guys think? All opinions are welcome.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah, if it's not there, don't force it.

The tried and true 'Kiss Test,' where you touch her hair and look into her eyes is a proven winner. If she doesn't want to kiss you, she'll break away from you when you do that.
 

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My bike has gotten me laid many times or maybe it's my charming personality. Baah F-No....no but I love riding, it's pretty much my 2nd therapy after hockey.

Bike rides are good for dates #3 or #4. I always make them earn a ride before ever thinking about it. Sometimes they have to win a bet or well if they beg enough I might give in.

I get that first kiss/kino/tease out of the way prior too riding. After that 1st ride they are pretty excited.....chicks either love them or don't like bikes (danger aspect I suppose).

Broads that like bikes, yeah it's because more than likely it makes them horny. :up: IME

Keep the rubber side down man!
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Yeah, if it's not there, don't force it.

The tried and true 'Kiss Test,' where you touch her hair and look into her eyes is a proven winner. If she doesn't want to kiss you, she'll break away from you when you do that.
^This.

The "hair touch" is solid. I've been using that successfully for the past 10 years. I can't find a single downside to it. It's probably the most solid technique there is.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Bible_Belt said:
Yeah, if it's not there, don't force it.

The tried and true 'Kiss Test,' where you touch her hair and look into her eyes is a proven winner. If she doesn't want to kiss you, she'll break away from you when you do that.

Do you have a visual demonstration ?
 

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Good job on your verbal exchange with her, Robyn. I like the way you played the closing conversation.

As far as kiss closing with a girl I usually just say, "Hold on a second," and then grab her hair and comb my hands through it until it reaches the back of her head. And then I grab the back of her head and kiss her. Girls are very sensitive to touch.

EDIT: 200th post! Hopefully this has been an informative one ;)
 
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The one that works well for me during the first date is to sit next to her in a semi secluded environment. After a good amount of kino - hand touching, back stroking, leg feeling, look at her and tilt her chin towards you. Go for it and run your fingers in a line up and down the middle of her neck.

That should be it, no more kissing. Tease her by subtly getting close and whispering in her ear. After some heavy mental escalation make an excuse to go back to either of your places. I found the more kissing you do, the less likely a SNL will occur.
 
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