The Inner Workings of Women: Emotion

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Hahaha, most of the time, I end up throwing them into loathing me when I barely know them. Some roller-coaster is good.. but certain times it's too early, and there are some emotions I don't want her to feel towards me.

I suck at doing this with women. I must be like the most boring guy in the world to a woman; on the emotion-giving radar I'm about equal to a rock.
 

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Desdinova said:
It has been stated here many times that women are more emotional than men. However, truly understanding this concept doesn't seem to go far beyond the knowledge that women are overly sensitive to words and phrases.

The key to understanding women's actions, reactions, words, and decisions is to see how strong emotion with the absence of logic will affect her behaviour. If you put this twist on it, things suddenly make sense!

I'm going to give some examples of how women's emotions cause them to say the things they do, make incredibly stupid decisions, and act like they belong in a mental institution. In other words, act like women.


The Anti-Slvt Defense

from another thread:


This is known as the "anti-slvt defense". Let's take a good look at what's happening inside her brain when this is going on (brain commentary in italics)

Man starts kissing her
Emotion: oooh! I like this. That feels good. Uhhhh, I'm starting to get horny. I need to satisfy my craving.

Woman responds with kissing and sucking
Emotion: Oh yeah, I think I'm falling in love! Oh, I feel so good, so attractive, so sexy!

Man responds by trying to take off her pants
Logic: WARNING! If you let him continue, you're portraying yourself as a slvt!

Woman pushes man away. Man gets confused and stops. Woman says "I don't want to take this too fast"
Emotion: Why did he stop kissing me? It felt so good! I want to feel more good feelings!

Woman pulls man back and continues kissing him
Emotion: Ahhh! That's better! I feel good again. I feel sexy!

What happened here is that her logic and emotion were in conflict. Logic tells her that giving into sex labels her as a slvt. However, emotion tells her to keep doing what feels good. Emotion is stronger than logic which is why she wanted to continue despite the man wanting to take her pants off. To combat the logic, all you need to do is make her emotion override her logic. It's not hard. All you have to do is continue pushing her emotions in a feel-good sexual direction, and she'll give you the green light (usually by removing her own clothes).


Cheating on her Nice Boyfriend

Women don't thrive on positive emotions alone. If they did, then all the flowers, chocolates, and love poetry would cause a woman to remain forever faithful. There are techniques on sosuave that prove women respond better when their emotions are being thrown all over the place. The neg-hit and ****y/funny are a couple of big ones. These cause women to go through a huge emotional rollercoaster. Here's an example of a neg-hit, kino, and ****y/funny all thrown together and what she's feeling:

Guy: (patting her on the head) Awww, you're so CUTE when you're clumsy!
Girl: (confused look) Fvck off! (smiling)
Emotions: He's touching me! Yeah! Wait a minute, he just insulted me! But he called me cute! Oh my god, this is so exciting!

When a man feels excitement, it's usually a positive rush of emotions, but a woman feels excitement when she's feeling a whole bunch of different emotions in a short amount of time. The emotions don't have to all be positive. Some can be very negative!

A woman needs her man to push her emotions all over the scale. AFCs will work at pushing (and keeping) her emotions toward the positive end of the scale. When you realize that the emotional rollercoaster gets results, you know that constant happiness is boring for her. She needs her emotions to go bezerk to become excited!

Simply put, a woman will cheat on her bf if you shake her emotions around more than her bf does. She'll run off with you for some excitement while her bf continues to sit comfortably in his relationship, thinking his work was done after the first "I Love You". He believes that he only needs to keep her happy to keep her attracted. WRONG.

So, who's she going to be more attracted to? The guy who's comfortable in the relationship, or the guy who's making her feel strong emotions (being a combination of both positive and negative)?

This is the motivation for women to even begin thinking of moving on from their boring bf. Eventually, the negative emotion of cheating on her bf gets thrown into the mix. The mere idea of cheating on him will actually help DRIVE her to cheat on him! It's an extreme emotion of doing something wrong, and it'll aid her in feeling excited when you're making out with her. A man armed with this knowledge will be able to slide her from under the bf's nose.


Talking Dirty during Sex

This is perhaps one of the finest examples of how women work on emotional rollercoasters. Many of you know that women love it when you talk dirty to them, be a bit demeaning, make orders, and be a dominant male in the bedroom. These give her a slight taste of negative emotion while experiencing something pleasurable.

With the exception of pain, have you ever had a woman cry after sex? What you've done is provided her with the emotion she needed to feel. Her emotional experience starts showing up on the outside of her body. She's crying, but she's extremely happy. This is one of the few times where you'll actually SEE how women work on the inside.

What Crying Really Is:

It's simple. When a woman cries, it's just her emotions spilling over. If you need an analogy, picture a bucket of water. The more you tip it, the more it's going to spill over the side. Crying can happen when she's happy, sad, angry, scared, and every other emotion that the human body can experience. It can also occur when you shake her bucket of emotions in multiple directions.


When Women Want You Back

After a woman dumps you and you begin to move on with your life, she feels unwanted, undesireable, and jealous of any other woman who feels wanted and desired by you. She's doing what's natural to make those feelings go away: she's pursuing you! Once she gets you back and her emotions calm down, she may lose interest again because it's no longer bothering her. You try moving on again and her feelings come back! She again reacts to them, and the cycle continues. This is why men get thrown into the "Friend Zone" after a breakup - because she can't handle the emotional shaking of completely cutting ties.

The "Friend Zone" is a neutral area where she still has control over you and how you affect her emotions without actually being in a relationship. If you start straying, she can c0ckblock you or show you a bit of sexuality to make you think you still have a chance. When you're stuck in this neutral zone, she can have her cake and eat it by screwing any guy she likes while keeping you from disrupting her emotional equalibrium.


Drama

The reason for women loving drama so much is because it provides that emotional rollercoaster ride. They tune into gossip, soap operas, and talk shows to get a dose of drama. When a man is working hard to make her 100% happy, she'll start an argument for the sole purpose to add some drama into her life. Fvck being happy all the time, that's boring. Let's have an exciting, emotion-filled fight!

Some women like the higher and steeper rollercoasters, and need extreme drama in their daily life. That's why they'll end up doing stupid things like fvcking two or more of their married co-workers, and won't even think of the end result: being labelled a slvt. These women don't view it as destroying other people's lives, they view it as adding some excitement to their own lives!


Fortune Telling and Horoscopes

Women are big into this crap, and can you blame them? They get told what's going to happen to them throughout the day, and throughout their future. It's a step down from gossip, and is drama in it's purest bull5hit form. Just look around at how many women are into tarot cards, palm reading, handwriting analysis, and all those other gimmicks.

To take gimmicks even further, ever notice the vast amounts of women in casinos? It gives them the same emotional rush. They could walk out a millionaire, or walk out flat broke. Either way, they get their emotional rollercoaster ride!


Women and Change

One of the biggest reasons for the existance of the emotional rollercoaster is the subject of change. Changing emotions is exciting! Also, women are much more receptive to change than men, especially positive change (well, at least positive in their mind). That's why they keep re-arranging the living room, and moving where everything is located in the kitchen. For a man, it's a pain in the ass. For a woman, change is refreshing!

As you go through your transformation into a Don Juan, you'll notice that your guy friends won't like how you're changing. However, you may notice the complete opposite with women. She'll respond extremely well to your more outgoing personality, and how you've learned to enjoy human touch!



As you can see by looking at these examples and countless others, emotion is a MAJOR part of a woman's life. If you see a woman doing something completely illogical or saying something filled with nonsense, apply the idea that she's reacting to her emotions. That's when her behaviour will make sense!

Hey this makes alot of sense, but if this is all true, god thats depressing. Do we always have to be at work? isnt that wat r jobs r for? Shouldnt our social time be carefree and fun? When in a relationship can the games end? Marriage? This is exactly wat happened with my ex, we dated a yr, she was insanely in love with me, at some pt she just took me for granted and seemed so bored,and if anythign i was even better to her than i was in the beggining cuz i loved her more. This sux.
 
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There needs to be a whole bible dedicated to women, learning about them

This post should be in this bible.
 
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Excellent Post

Desinova, are there more examples on how we can make women go into the emotional rollarcoaster? We know negs, C&F kino do the trick.

Maybe you can add on more specific ideas.

Amen to this Thread.
 

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When Women Want You Back

After a woman dumps you and you begin to move on with your life, she feels unwanted, undesireable, and jealous of any other woman who feels wanted and desired by you. She's doing what's natural to make those feelings go away: she's pursuing you! Once she gets you back and her emotions calm down, she may lose interest again because it's no longer bothering her. You try moving on again and her feelings come back! She again reacts to them, and the cycle continues. This is why men get thrown into the "Friend Zone" after a breakup - because she can't handle the emotional shaking of completely cutting ties.

The "Friend Zone" is a neutral area where she still has control over you and how you affect her emotions without actually being in a relationship. If you start straying, she can c0ckblock you or show you a bit of sexuality to make you think you still have a chance. When you're stuck in this neutral zone, she can have her cake and eat it by screwing any guy she likes while keeping you from disrupting her emotional equalibrium.
This is so true man,
I hang with this girl for about 3 years. I was blind with love, romance and all that jazz. All my friends and family try to wake me up till in the 2nd year I finally figured out she is really a cold-heated man with tits. From then I tried to move away from her. Once I ignore her, she would pull any trick just to get my attention i.e. Got so drunk so that she can't take herself home, Got sick need someone to take her to hospital etc.
When I fall for her, go to see her, she will act like nothing happen and turn cold on me!!!
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
Hey this makes alot of sense, but if this is all true, god thats depressing. Do we always have to be at work? isnt that wat r jobs r for? Shouldnt our social time be carefree and fun? When in a relationship can the games end? Marriage? This is exactly wat happened with my ex, we dated a yr, she was insanely in love with me, at some pt she just took me for granted and seemed so bored,and if anythign i was even better to her than i was in the beggining cuz i loved her more. This sux.
Life's a game, you're always playing whether it's your job, relationship, or any other aspect of life. You said out of no where she started taking you for granted, probably because you stopped being a challenge and started acting like a chump.
 
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Boschy said:
This post was crap. It was excellent. You stole those ideas. Very thoughtful. Too long-winded and verbose. Thanks for making the effort. Are you a troll? You are the Man.
LMFAO! Sounds like Boschy comprehended what he read!!

Excellent post in deed!! :up:
 

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Haha, that kissing part was right on the ball. That's why David DeAngelo's "two steps forward, one step back" technique works so well. :)
 
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DJinTraining06 said:
Hey this makes alot of sense, but if this is all true, god thats depressing. Do we always have to be at work? isnt that wat r jobs r for? Shouldnt our social time be carefree and fun? When in a relationship can the games end? Marriage?
Well, if you get the right woman, the games become a lot more fun, but no, they don't really end. It does help to know the rules before you start though, which are exactly as outlined in the original post. Wish I'd known them years ago!

The 'emotional rollercoaster' point is so true. Whe she flings open the door and dramatically announces;
"I've had a lousy day! We need to move to Outer Mongolia!"
I used to go "What? Outer Mongolia? Are you insane?" and begin logically outlining why it was a stupid impractical idea.
But now I go, "Hey, I bet that would be amazing. Let's look on the computer. Wow, look at those mountains! Can you imagine skiing down those, the wind in your hair....and just those clear rivers...property is so cheap..." A few days later, when the rollercoaster has finished the stomach-churning drop and the corkscrew bit, you can introduce the idea of roving bands of rampaging Mongol hordes or whatever. I'm not advocating blind acceptance of everything she wants, but it helps to get on the rollercoaster and ride it to a stop, rather than derail it on the way down.
Just don't blame me if you end up living in a yurt drinking yak's milk.
 
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friend zone to sex zone ?

Great post! Thanks, it helped a lot in understanding why things happened in my previous relationships. wish i known them for years... I especially liked the friend zone part : Do you any of you guys have some ideas if there is a way to turn the friend zone into sex zone after a LTR? I definitely dont want to be a controlled friend. Neither lose any contact, though i can do it that is not the problem. All I want to have is to have some good time with her, but I have no clue on how to communicate it to her without her thinking herself as a slvt.
 
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Get on with your life and treat her like a friend and no more. Let her know that life outside of your LTR with her is GOOD. Meet new people, tell her how much fun your having...if she's a "friend" she should be happy for you :) If you really believe she IS a friend and you convince yourself you don't NEED her and she's convinced you don't WANT her, chances are she'll do what she can to get your interest. If you succeed in this, just make sure YOU are in control, YOU decide what happens and when. If she senses it's an act to get her to be in to you, it'll backfire.
 

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Great post, but I would like to see some examples on how to apply the ideas - what are good ways to create this emotional rollercoaster?
 
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Great post. But you need to understand something:
Also men follow there emotions, emotions are there to make sure we will repreduice and survive. why FEAR is there? to make us survive. Why are we so horny? To make us repreduice. i hope you got my point.
 
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once again i applaud this post. fan-freaking-tastic!

women truly don't make sense. my woman comes up to me and say " i'm hungry" and i say "what are you hungry for?" and she says " i don't know?" i name of 50 different foods and she can't figure out what she wants. it's not until i choose the food and the place, that she finally figures out what to eat.

like i said women cannot think for themselves. sometimes i wonder how she is so mathematically smart.
Dude I can't tell you how many times that happened to me with my ex girlfriend. Makes complete sense now. Good post man.
 

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We kissed and kissed but whenever I tried to take off her pants to have sex with her she'd pushes my hands off. I tried on several occassions but she won't let me, although the kisses still continuous. She later asked me if I was trying to seduce her...
This is known as the "anti-slvt defense". Let's take a good look at what's happening inside her brain when this is going on (brain commentary in italics)

Man starts kissing her
Emotion: oooh! I like this. That feels good. Uhhhh, I'm starting to get horny. I need to satisfy my craving.

Woman responds with kissing and sucking
Emotion: Oh yeah, I think I'm falling in love! Oh, I feel so good, so attractive, so sexy!

Man responds by trying to take off her pants
Logic: WARNING! If you let him continue, you're portraying yourself as a slvt!

Woman pushes man away. Man gets confused and stops. Woman says "I don't want to take this too fast"
Emotion: Why did he stop kissing me? It felt so good! I want to feel more good feelings!

Woman pulls man back and continues kissing him
Emotion: Ahhh! That's better! I feel good again. I feel sexy!

What happened here is that her logic and emotion were in conflict. Logic tells her that giving into sex labels her as a slvt. However, emotion tells her to keep doing what feels good. Emotion is stronger than logic which is why she wanted to continue despite the man wanting to take her pants off. To combat the logic, all you need to do is make her emotion override her logic. It's not hard. All you have to do is continue pushing her emotions in a feel-good sexual direction, and she'll give you the green light (usually by removing her own clothes).
@#%$ haha this exact thing happened to me. She was going crazy and was letting me feel her up and whatnot, making out, sucking on her neck, sucking on the twins. She was loving it, but whenever I brought my hands near her pants she would push my hand away. Confused the hell out me.
 

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legolas said:
If you read nothing else in the forum, read this post.

I agree with this post 100%, this is so true!! Desdinova hit it right on the money. I have forever found myself having mild conversations with women and then wondered why I'd always end up in the friend zone. And then the one time when I tried a little bit of emotional rollercoaster "shaking-up" I saw immediate results. The only problem is that I'm the exciting guy 1% of the time and the boring/dull conversation guy about 99% of the time.

Excitement is the key!!

The truth is I have arrived at the same conclusion myself, in fact I began calling it: "Be her drug addiction" Because a drug has good feelings and bad feelings and usually takes you on a certain kind of emotional rollercoaster. You see because I discovered that I had been dull in my interactions with the girls I've been out with and lost many opportunities, so I finally figured out why it hasn't worked in the past.
This is finally starting to make sense to me. Are there any threads that go into details on this? I mean I'm sure there are, but I need to read up on/practice some of this stuff.

paulwis said:
More "what" but never "how".

Yeah exactly. The original post is AWESOME and makes a ton of sense, but I how do you put some of these things into effect? (Simply link to a thread if necessary)?

This post was crap. It was excellent. You stole those ideas. Very thoughtful. Too long-winded and verbose. Thanks for making the effort. Are you a troll? You are the Man.
HAHAHaha awesome. Damn I'd love to send every girl I know on the emotional roller-coaster, but how does one do it?
 
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