The idea that rejection is nothing personal

[BaronOfHair]

The curtain was meant to shield the special ed kids from humiliation

Another instance of empathy(something very different from what's been dubbed Wise/Rational Compassion)going awry: Those Special Ed kids almost certainly received a rude awakening when they left school each day, and discovered that no one is going to hide them behind a curtain for the sake of "preventing their humiliation"



"My refusal to ask out a woman I seriously think is into me is akin to the curtain in the special ed gym class: A shield to prevent possible humiliation"

So you want to be a prize fighter, but are terrified of "losing" a match/having the crowd react in a less than flattering fashion, when you do something foolish in the ring

Good luck with that

 

[SW15]

I've lived in several states, however (some of which are a lot different than others)

There are some moves between US states that would be a big culture shock. The English language would be a commonality but not much else would be.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Plus, I am in sales, so I know this stuff is just BS to keep underperforming employees motivated or get newbies excited to target the terrible accounts the experienced salesmen do not want.

Many women are the equivalent of accessing The A-List in Hollywood: Extremely tough to achieve, and once you've done so, the trade-offs made in order to get there quickly seem questionable

Luckily, no one is pressing a loaded Sig to any of our skulls, threatening to pull the trigger, UNLESS we pursue "difficult" women or Tom Cruise-esque career paths. Just as plenty of actors forego major stardom in favor of quieter personal lives and artistic freedom, we can all pursue women who aren't likely to be Grade A pains in the ass

 

[BaronOfHair]

All you guys that worry about getting rejected better stay home.

No worries, not every one can grow thick skin. Better let the tough ones handle it. I am certain it doesnt hurt their feelers.

Entirely too many supposed Red Pill men ascribe to their own version of the worldview espoused by Miss Chastain here https://www.indiewire.com/features/...n-tarantino-uma-thurman-kill-bill-1201924880/

Pointing out that getting rejected/having sh-tty experiences with women more generally can actually make a fella stronger over the long haul/Be our Phoenix moment is now interpreted by many as "ignoring/minimizing men's pain"

 

[CornbreadFed]

Many women are the equivalent of accessing The A-List in Hollywood: Extremely tough to achieve, and once you've done so, the trade-offs made in order to get there quickly seem questionable

Luckily, no one is pressing a loaded Sig to any of our skulls, threatening to pull the trigger, UNLESS we pursue "difficult" women or Tom Cruise-esque career paths. Just as plenty of actors forego major stardom in favor of quieter personal lives and artistic freedom, we can all pursue women who aren't likely to be Grade A pains in the ass

The issue here is that it is normal women being pains in the ass and having the standards of 9s & 10s. Having tough skin makes sense if you are shooting for women above your league but does not when you are battling in the trenches with women within your smv or lower.

 

[SW15]

The issue here is that it is normal women being pains in the ass and having the standards of 9s & 10s. Having tough skin makes sense if you are shooting for women above your league but does not when you are battling in the trenches with women within your smv or lower.

Most men are battling in the trenches with women within their SMV or lower.

This is true for both the alpha/sigma males with a red pill ideology who are aware of "game" and seduction AND it is also true for beta males with a blue pill ideology.

The typical male (who is likely a beta) is dealing with women in the average to cute range who have the standards of 9s and 10s.

The typical male is taking a lot of rejections both from tech methods (low match %) and from when he makes real life approaches.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Most men are battling in the trenches with women within their SMV or lower.

This is true for both the alpha/sigma males with a red pill ideology who are aware of "game" and seduction AND it is also true for beta males with a blue pill ideology.

The typical male (who is likely a beta) is dealing with women in the average to cute range who have the standards of 9s and 10s.

The typical male is taking a lot of rejections both from tech methods (low match %) and from when he makes real life approaches.

This is why I advocate choosing your own battles and disqualifying women because too many men get brought into a trench fight with some woman on par or below their smv in actuality. It is easy to be hung up on some Mid woman at best because she wears makeup and you are desperate for some pvssy.

 

[SW15]

It is easy to be hung up on some Mid woman at best because she wears makeup and you are desperate for some pvssy.

That sounds like something that the typical male (a beta with a blue pill ideology and scarcity mindset) experiences while living in a big city and trying to meet new women who are strangers.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Having tough skin makes sense if you are shooting for women above your league but does not when you are battling in the trenches with women within your smv or lower.

Remain thin skinned and continue being devastated when the waitress at IHop refuses to drop her knickers, bend over, and spread her hirsute, malodorous cheeks, all because you winked at her from across the diner

Somehow, I suspect your perennial disappointment won't cause the cosmos to implode, and that the planet will keep on a' turnin'

 

[BaronOfHair]

It is easy to be hung up on some Mid woman at best because she wears makeup and you are desperate for some pvssy.

Yeah, it requires an ounce of introspection to notice that we're ruminating on something, and it requires effort to view our external reality from multiple angles. Therefore, most folks would just as soon jam their faces into a fish tank full of famished piranhas, BEFORE they engage in even mild self-reflection

 

[The Duke]

Entirely too many supposed Red Pill men ascribe to their own version of the worldview espoused by Miss Chastain here https://www.indiewire.com/features/...n-tarantino-uma-thurman-kill-bill-1201924880/

Pointing out that getting rejected/having sh-tty experiences with women more generally can actually make a fella stronger over the long haul/Be our Phoenix moment is now interpreted by many as "ignoring/minimizing men's pain"

I had no idea who Miss? Chastain was. But i'd say the overview on google aligned well with her statements.

Jessica Michelle Chastain is an American actress and producer known for her authentic performances in a variety of roles, often playing strong but flawed women. She's known for starring in projects with feminist themes.

She pushes the same agenda that @self_is_an_illusion does.

 

[GoodMan32]

We all might not get the results we desire when we pursue a goal. Such is life

When I said "might/probably will" say no, the emphasis was meant to be on the "probably will"

There are some moves between US states that would be a big culture shock. The English language would be a commonality but not much else would be.

Yeah. And even then, despite English being the de facto language, there are many places with a sizable population that doesn't speak (or barely knows how to speak) English, even if a majority of the population speaks English. Whereas in the small town I was raised in, being unfamiliar with English was practically unheard of.

 

[GoodMan32]

The issue here is that it is normal women being pains in the ass and having the standards of 9s & 10s. Having tough skin makes sense if you are shooting for women above your league but does not when you are battling in the trenches with women within your smv or lower.

Well-said. You've identified the core problem: Even a woman who's on par with us on the looks scale wants to date above her league.

 

[jhonny9546]

don't waste time thinking about it

The importance you give to this thing depends on the person who rejected you and how much importance you had given them in your life.

 

[CornbreadFed]

What the fvck does this even mean?

Is this a serious question or are you one of those guys that believe every woman is beneath him

 

[CornbreadFed]

If you are serious about something, you don't answer a question with another question. You should be able to expand on the points you are making, now, what does "women above your league" mean?

A woman above you in looks & status.

 

[GoodMan32]

The importance you give to this thing depends on the person who rejected you and how much importance you had given them in your life.

For me, being right (as opposed to wrong) about a woman's interest level is the important part to me, even if the woman herself isn't tremendously important to me.

For example, the female employee in my office building's cafe I've posted about on here before (who I suspected might be into me). I'm not exactly into her (even though I find her physically attractive, she's a lot younger than I prefer). Yet I was still somewhat crushed when I found out (without coming out and asking) she's not into me. The fact I misread a woman's interest level yet again was why I was crushed.

It would have been way more crushing, however, had I done an official askout.

 

[characternote]

What the fvck does this even mean?

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[Vanderdonck]

For me, being right (as opposed to wrong) about a woman's interest level is the important part to me, even if the woman herself isn't tremendously important to me.

For example, the female employee in my office building's cafe I've posted about on here before (who I suspected might be into me). I'm not exactly into her (even though I find her physically attractive, she's a lot younger than I prefer). Yet I was still somewhat crushed when I found out (without coming out and asking) she's not into me. The fact I misread a woman's interest level yet again was why I was crushed.

It would have been way more crushing, however, had I done an official askout.

So you were crushed because you were wrong about something? Had nothing to do with attraction or lack thereof? Sorry if I'm not following. Are you also crushed when you don't answer a trivia question correctly? Serious question.

 

[GoodMan32]

So you were crushed because you were wrong about something? Had nothing to do with attraction or lack thereof? Sorry if I'm not following. Are you also crushed when you don't answer a trivia question correctly? Serious question.

No, I'm not crushed when I get a trivia question wrong. For that matter, in general, I don't tend to be crushed when I'm wrong about stuff.

A woman's interest level in me is the one exception where I am crushed when I turn out to be wrong.

As for why a woman's interest level is the one exception? Because I end up blaming my autism for why I misread her interest level (and I'm extremely self-conscious of my autism).

When I think a girl/woman is into me, I've been wrong the vast majority of the time (in the cases where I've gotten an answer at least)