"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My girlfriend says this to me all the time...TOO much. Maybe 10-15 times a day? I used to reciprocate this all the time but after not seeing her for a few months I decided to stop doing that. Now when she says it I smile and kiss her or something like that. But she says it so damn much that even doing something like that is becoming really lame. So every day or two now I say it back, when I'm feeling it more.

But now that I'm not sayin it as much, it seems like shes saying it just to try to get me to, using it as a tool rather than saying it because shes feeling it. I just don't really know how to handle it anymore, mainly cause I don't know if I'm handling it well already or not.

It just gets annoying when I'm chillin with my boys and she'll say it loud tryin to get me to say it back to her, always grabbin at my hand trying to hold it or doing constant sh!t like that. I'm just getting tired of the constant need for affection, especially in front of people when she seems to need it the most!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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vlf445 said:
My girlfriend says this to me all the time...TOO much. Maybe 10-15 times a day? I used to reciprocate this all the time but after not seeing her for a few months I decided to stop doing that. Now when she says it I smile and kiss her or something like that. But she says it so damn much that even doing something like that is becoming really lame. So every day or two now I say it back, when I'm feeling it more.

But now that I'm not sayin it as much, it seems like shes saying it just to try to get me to, using it as a tool rather than saying it because shes feeling it. I just don't really know how to handle it anymore, mainly cause I don't know if I'm handling it well already or not.

It just gets annoying when I'm chillin with my boys and she'll say it loud tryin to get me to say it back to her, always grabbin at my hand trying to hold it or doing constant sh!t like that. I'm just getting tired of the constant need for affection, especially in front of people when she seems to need it the most!
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DUMP....?

seriously how old are you? young?

many women are brainwashed by movies/cosmo into thinking you have to be saying it all the time....the problem with this is that ILU looses ALL its meaning....

also girls with low self esteem need to hear it all the time... its like a drug, they need to hear it more and more....

a high quality woman will know "by your actions", she wont need you to tell her lots...

really you should use it VERY sparingly... so when you say it literally blows her away ... WOW!
(Doc love says you should use it only a few times in life...really that is a VERY romantic view... )

the amount of ILU's that are demanded are an indicator of neediness... this is a good way of screening girls for LTR's.....
neediness= BAD BAD BAD

(i went out with a girl who had LSE - what did she do in the week i was on vacation? - cheat - her ego couldn’t deny the validation she was getting from the new guy, thus sh!t happened ! )

what you should do is something like "right im going to say it 10 times now and then you cant ask for it again until ... next week " (like your stocking her up for the week)... stick to it...a girl who is Needy will (be temporarily happy but then will just need more ILU's very quickly..... then i really do think you need to consider whether you want to date a LSE girl...
there are plenty of SANE women about who dont need constant validation

I see couples who say it many times a day…. Sickening…. When I say it I want to blow the girl away (and her to REALLY know and respect the importance when I say those three little words)

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does that help?
 
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I'm 20, 3rd year in college.

She's definitely a LSE girl, but honestly, I can have pretty LSE too.

My goals when I started reading the DJ bible were to get a girlfriend so I could get good at f*cking before I went out and actually managed to pick chicks up and mess it all up. I hoped confidence would ensue...

And it did to some extent, but its on n off. I still don't feel confident enough to go pick up a girl and **** her that night, even tho im in college where its easiest. So Im still with my girlfriend, gettin the easy p*ssy
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Just stop saying it so much. When she asks why you don't just simply say "Look, you know I love you and care about you. So I shouldn't have to say it all the time. When it gets said so much it's meaning loses value." That should buy you a couple weeks. You might have to go through this a lot. But that's how I always handled it. I also did the whole just smiling and kissing thing instead of saying it. But like you said, it doesn't always work. Your girl is only saying it so much because she needs constant validation. I'm willing to bet this girl is also a bit insecure too. This is one of those girls you have to "show you care" or she will think you're getting bored of her and start tree branching. I'd give her that speech as many times as you need to. It's not like she's going to dump you because you don't say the L word. If anything, it will only make her crave you even more. Just make sure to combine it with some reassurance, or else she will find somebody else to do it for you. This is where male orbiter can be really useful. They praise your girl and tell her how beautiful she is everyday so you don't have to. Sounds like she needs some more chick/beta/gay friends, or maybe just a boost in confidence.

-Scars
 
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vlf445 said:
I'm 20, 3rd year in college.

She's definitely a LSE girl, but honestly, I can have pretty LSE too.

My goals when I started reading the DJ bible were to get a girlfriend so I could get good at f*cking before I went out and actually managed to pick chicks up and mess it all up. I hoped confidence would ensue...

And it did to some extent, but its on n off. I still don't feel confident enough to go pick up a girl and **** her that night, even tho im in college where its easiest. So Im still with my girlfriend, gettin the easy p*ssy
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some people are happy sticking with crappy women its EASIER than having to go out and find better one(s) and risk being single for a while (and risk rejection and all that!) ....this is what "scarcity" mindset does... a better quality woman wouldnt have LSE and wouldnt be giving you these problems. PEROID.

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look a woman is ment to add to your life (tho u should be happy yourself first) but this girl is got all these little red flags which are annoying you
 
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