"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The hurdles of self improvement?

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As some of you guys know oneitis destroyed me but has made me a better person as I realised my problems and turned a new leaf. It's been a few weeks since and things are going good. My mates particularly the girls are really noticing the change in my physique (positively) and really liking it if you know what I mean. I'm starting to become more sexual although this ones still a huge challenge. My whole dating game has changed and I now take the lead alot more and have noticed not only do I have a good time but girls love it.

Now heres my problem: Every so often I will get caught off guard and become a nervous wreck then kick myself later realising a missed opportunity. E.g. the other day as I was walking to work a cute girl was handing out cupcakes and specifically zeroed in on me to give me one even following me for a bit (compared to other shoppers she ignored). Yet because of crowds I was already nervous and when I saw her I simply just side stepped her and raced to work with my tail between my legs. Now this is not me because I am much more chilled and laid back but crowds + work + other variables can sometimes knock me out of myself.

So I know that things won't change overnight and that this is going to be a long path to bettering myself but just wondering how you guys handled the hurdles when you all were improving yourselves. Am I right to be kicking myself? Anything I can do to stop this happening again if I'm ever in the same situation?

Thanks guys.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I have this problem in public too, I am reserved and feel uncomfortable around crowds. The only way this will get better is if you keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. It will be awkward, yes. Hell, maybe the first ten times doing this in public will be awkward. But feeling fake like this is necessary to change. It will feel incongruent at first, but will become natural over time if you keep doing it.

Start small if you have to. Ask a bunch of girls for the time, then start saying Hi to a few girls. Then make some small talk with a few girls. Slow, incremental change is the key.
 

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I concur with Mr. Jibbles (I love that name).

Most of you know I am a strong supporter of taking tiny little steps toward mastery. Smaller than you would normally think.

I'm convinced that many, if not most of us here suffer from social anxiety. There is something in many of us that causes us to feel dreadfully uncomfortable in social situations and meeting new people. I stress that this is not all of us, but I would venture over 50%.

I psychiatric circles there is a defined phenomenon called "habituation". Picture yourself moving into a new apartment. You go to sleep at night, and you hear the oil burner turn on and find that it's way louder than you're comfortable with. It keeps you awake. Several nights go by, and the discomfort lessens until a week or two later and your inner psyche (whatever that is) has totally accepted the noise and has erased it as an annoyance. You have "habituated" to the noise and it simply doesn't register in your consciousness anymore.

Now apply that to talking with women. Habituate yourself to asking for the time, saying hello, how are you, saying wow, that's a great color for you.

Understand that you will be met with a smile maybe 25% of the time, and the rest of the responses may be less than ideal. You are training yourself to NOT CARE.

I repeat: You are habituating yourself to dispassionately ACCEPT that most interactions will not be ideal. Once you completely accept that fact without self-judgment, you will go on to more involved conversations because you will feel more comfortable.

Our greatest enemy is outcome-dependance. It stems from the ILLUSION that most of us hold that men are able to be universally attractive, as women are. It ain't happenin' folks.

We men are visually attracted to feminine affectations. That means makeup, body shape, hair stuyle, etc. The person inside doesn't even matter till later. The fact is that we will be initially attracted to ANY woman who visually displays attention to looks. Therefore almost any woman who is not fat can go to CVS and purchase UNIVERSAL attractiveness at the makeup counter. She puts her makeup on and she is UNIVERSALLY attractive.

Not so for us men. Women respond to different types. Only a smally percentage of men are able to be universally attractive on the surface, and that boils down to genetics plus a sense of style. Most of us don't have that, and therefore we will only be attractive to a certain subset of the female population. We cannot, by and large, be universally attractive as women can.

Therefore, when we approach, we know that we absolutely MUST, without fail, experience frequent rejection. It then behooves us to not give a sh!t about this certainty in life.

Our downfall is that we care. We have to stop caring and instead create a frame where we know full well that we will only appeal to a percentage of the female poulation. It then really does become a numbers game.

Accept rejection. Rejection is an inescapable certainty, and therefore we should embrace each rejection as another rung on the ladder toward mastery.

By caring about rejection we are literally feeling bad about somebody rejecting us who we have no idea under the sun who they really are. Bad grammar, but you get the point. We respond to feminine affectations, without regard for the personality. Personality comes in after the physical.

So Atom Smasher's new axiom is "Don't give a sh!t."

Make approach mechanical, make it something you do in order to climb up to where you want to be. You are stepping on the heads of those entitled, arrogant princesses in order to climb up to finding a girl worthy of your respect. You are trampling them underfoot for not seeing the greatness in you.

Failure and rejection are absolutely unavoidable. Therefore, we must embrace failure and rejection and regard them as the mechanism or vehicle of our growth and ultimate victory.

Do not care. The dynamics of male/female relations is a fact of life that is written in stone. Therefore USE it, and don't be used by it. In the beginning the woman has the upper hand (choice) but she gives up everything in submission to a man later.

You cannot be universally attractive. It will never happen. Women in fact can be. We must not let that fact discourage us. We are the ones who have built this world, we are the ones who take the hammer to ourselves to forge ourselves into men of subtance. We are the ones who strive to live by principle. We are the ones who own and rule this world. We have so many advantages that trump women's ONLY advantage, which is universal attractiveness via looks.

We have a pretty sweet deal when we learn to accept these facts. Fail your way to success. Learn to absolutely LOVE failure. Failure is the very structure upon which you are building a life of ultimate success. Every great man who stands at a great height is standing on a mountain of previous failures.

Don't strive to be universally attractive to women. Strive instead to be the best man you can be. In so doing you will be attractive to a larger and larger subset of women. By habituating yourself to rejection, you will be unstoppable. After all, why should the opinion of a lump of flesh with makeup on matter at all? You have no idea under the sun who that person actually is. More than likely (by the law of averages, and by the fact that she is unfriendly toward you), she is a vapid shell, just doing and thinking what the media tells her to do and think. She is worthless to you.

Only the ones who respond positively to you are worth anything at all to you. Don't fret over the worthless. What a waste of emotional energy! The worthless ones are the majority, the dirt you have to dig through to find the diamonds.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Not so for us men. Only a smally percentage of men are able to be universally attractive on the surface, and that boils down to genetics plus a sense of style. Most of us don't have that, and therefore we will only be attractive to a certain subset of the female population. We cannot, by and large, be universally attractive as women can.
Great post Atom Smasher. We must habituize rejection. Normalize it.

One point though: if you want the closest thing you can have to universal attraction: it's health. If your skin is radiant and your eyes are clear and your abs are flat you will find a much greater percentage of women available. That type of health comes from diet and detoxification. Women can fake the signs of health with makeup, plus men are more visually aroused in general.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Atom Smasher said:
Understand that you will be met with a smile maybe 25% of the time, and the rest of the responses may be less than ideal. You are training yourself to NOT CARE.

I repeat: You are habituating yourself to dispassionately ACCEPT that most interactions will not be ideal. Once you completely accept that fact without self-judgment, you will go on to more involved conversations because you will feel more comfortable.

Our greatest enemy is outcome-dependance. It stems from the ILLUSION that most of us hold that men are able to be universally attractive, as women are. It ain't happenin' folks.
I agree, this is really important. Tyler Durden described in the Blueprint decoded what is called The Newbie's Paradox. The beginner needs true confidence and unwavering belief in himself in order to convey an attractive state to women. At the same time, however, he lacks the previous reference experiences (past, positive evidence) to back up this confidence in himself. The only way he can get these reference experiences is if he approaches women. Herein lies the contradiction.

In other words, his state at first will be fake and incongruent and "stifled". Although it will be difficult to get these positive reference experiences at first, the newbie can gain something else: evidence that it ultimately DOES NOT MATTER. This is what he calls the INDIFFERENCE THRESHOLD. This is the halfway point between FEAR and TOTAL BELIEF in oneself.

Once the newbie truly begins to not care what happens in any given interaction, something clicks and a new confidence emerges. The momentum from this state will help gain the confidence necessary to gain POSITIVE reference experiences. At this point, his behaviors go from "stifled" to "unstifled".

The idea is to anticipate positive responses to the point where it feels automatic. The newbie automatically anticipates failure when he tries to be confident because his brain cannot access memories to reinforce this confident state.
 

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bigneil said:
Great post Atom Smasher. We must habituize rejection. Normalize it.

One point though: if you want the closest thing you can have to universal attraction: it's health. If your skin is radiant and your eyes are clear and your abs are flat you will find a much greater percentage of women available. That type of health comes from diet and detoxification. Women can fake the signs of health with makeup, plus men are more visually aroused in general.
I agree completely.
 

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I've got to say, some of the stuff on this site is more wise and life tips than it is simply about woman. Thanks you all and yes baby steps I'm starting to see is how I'll progress.

Dunno if this will help anyone else but I might as well write it down to help any others in the future. I've thought about it and broken down my social anxiety. My focus when I start feeling this is to take slow rhythmic breaths and calm myself down. If I feel it, I'll also slow my walking just to force myself to not get so nervous. Now too, I force myself to give eye contact even if I feel uneasy. It's hard future DJ's but it's the only way to go.

I've got a few questions if you guys still wanna help this newbie.

Situation 1:
New girl at work (nothing special, just your lazy casual summer job), HB7, so I thought what the hell might as well work on my game. Didn't be my typical approachable friendly self. While others came up to her I held back only giving the initial hello. What did I notice? She spent the shift staring at me ALOT and when I caught her at it, we'd just smile at each other. At one point I think she tried to start talking to me but when I looked up she walked away nervously. Am I reading too much into this? Stark difference to previous girls who have forgotten my name before my shift even ended.

Situation 2:
Oneitis (bestfriend 1/2 yearish), HB 9.5 (previous model with like 7 guys chasing her -sadly including me- when she became single I overheard). She never rejected me but never got back to me bout our date. I have NC'd to get over her but last few weeks she keeps messaging me every saturday and commenting on everything I post on facebook. 1 where she wanted to see me after work but flaked and another was a late birthday invitation (I declined because I already had plans). Both times I've played it distant and replied what I had to (none of my AFC crap I use to). Is this how I keep it going? Furthermore how do I act around her because I know sooner or later I will see her at a friends party and she'll probs be wondering why the guy she was so touchy and kino'd with is now avoiding her?

Thanks guys I owe you all alot for kick starting things for me. Hopefully I can repay the favour one day.
 
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Situation 1:
More than one smile in the way you're describing is a clear invitation for you to approach. Make a few more casual comments to her during the day and you will probably see positive reactions. Regard it simply as an experiment, not as a life or death "I hope she likes me" in order to keep the nerves at bay. This is all a game, a big experiment and you have nothing to lose because she has not qulified herself to you yet.

Situation 2:
Methinks you're bedazzled by her looks. She has already displayed disrespectful behavior and has therefore drastically reduced her actual, intrinsic worth. Others here may not agree, but I believe that a man should always dispassionately, non-emotionally call women out on their shi!t.

So personally, I would tell her "Not interested. You flaked on me once, and I lost interest". Instead of conveying that you're mad or hurt, you're conveying that she did not live up to your very reasonable standard. This will shock her out of her mind, because NOBODY in her life has ever called out the little princess, ever. You will probably be the first. You will make a huge impression on her.

Now I'm in a different age group than you, so I'm not sure how an 18 year old would act, but a more mature woman would think about you day and night and become absolutely fascinated with you for standing up to her behavior, even if she is mad at first. In my experience, they suddenly fall in love on an entirely new level, but again, my world is a little different from yours.

Before acting, let some more advice from some of the other guys trickle in. I think other perspectives would be useful.

But regarding the first girl, she's given you a green light as far as I can tell. I would definitely approach it as a game, relate to her in a fun way with no pressure and not strings attached. It will help your confidence enormousely.
 

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What happened was that your consciousness of being "nervous" at that time was your focus. If this is your focus, it tends to expand. By entering a particular emotional state or though, you actually give power to it if you continue to "be" in it.

Try to snap yourself immediately into a whole new state next time. If you see a girl and you sense that you're nervous, spin around 3 times until you forget where you last left of.

Try to "reset" your state to one that benefits you - not work against you. The more you practice this, the better you'll become.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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