"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The hell of buying gifts for women

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Id rather have Stevie Wonder shave my sack with a straight-edge, I hate buying christmas, b-day and valentines day presents for a woman.
I'm in a serious relationship and the thought of a possibility of having to do this EVERY year for the rest of my life makes the hair all over my body stand up.

I've never been good at gift-giving, I think universally the two things women like best, clothing and jewelry, are out of the question for most straight men... certainly for me.
I, like most guys, don't know a damn thing about women's clothes and the odds of getting something she'd like is, well, bad! Jewlery is sometwhat easier but still a big hit or miss IMO, esp. with most women being much more fashion savvy than guys.

What does that leave? The lame bottle of perfume every year? I need some pointers here b/c for the life of me I can't think of anything.
I can think of some things like electronics, but how cold of a gift is that?
A gift card sounds like something you'd receive from an uncle.
What are the do's and donts here??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Try listening to your women a bit more diligently. Most women tell guys what they like throughout the year, guys just seldom listen to them.
 

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KillingTime said:
Id rather have Stevie Wonder shave my sack with a straight-edge, I hate buying christmas, b-day and valentines day presents for a woman.
You think he likes buying presents? :crackup:
 

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They like things that they can show off to their friends/ family.
 

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well gifts depend on lots of things, like the occasion , what the receiver really needs or likes , how much money the giver is spending and lets be honest, the giver's interests also.
how many times did you get the most god awful thing, only to look up and see the giver of the gift, smiling ear to ear because they really liked it? then you say its nice.

something my husband and i decided to do for each other was make a gift list. if theres a movie or a cd or a nice shirt or whatever we put it on the wish list. computer games, books, whatever is new that we would like to have, goes on the list.

every once in the while we run into a walmart or something and if either of us passes something neat we say, ah i like that. then we keep walking. by pointing stuff out to each other, we know what each other likes.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I know she's been wanting this palm pilot/cell phone thing that came out not too long ago, been talking about it a lot.... Ive just always felt kind of weird giving elecronics as gifts.
One of her best friends (a guy) gave her this diamond bracelet a while back, and here I am with some palm pilot lol... I don't know, maybe it's all in my head.
No way in hell I am getting her a diamond ANYTHING at this point (too early) but I just don't like everyone else showering her with all these crazy expensive/romantic gifts and then I look like the cheap one.
 

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I have 1 gift that I buy for men and women, regardless of who they are: Alcohol. Its the easiest, cheapest, and I have a card that gives me points for every dollar I spend at the liquor mart.

We all win!
 

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i dont think i could wear a diamond braclet without thinking someone would try to steal it off my arm.

if she wants the palm pilot, and has mentioned it, then that is really what she wants.
 

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Pick a gift like you would with anyone else: Ask her what she wants if you're not sure. If she's offended by this question, your relationship has bigger problems than picking gifts.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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penkitten said:
i dont think i could wear a diamond braclet without thinking someone would try to steal it off my arm.
Where do you live????
 

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If she's a Dinamo fan then buy her a scarf, she will love it:

http://www.jurnalul.ro/foto/poze/8807_poza.jpg

As you can see there are a lot of models, so you should be set for a lifetime, every year a different scarf, that's my motto when receiving gifts, as my friends now that I'm a Dinamo ultras.
 
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