"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The HB7 next door

roman

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Hey guys,

There's an HB7 named Kim who just moved in next door to me in my apartment building. Here's the deal. Last night I was in bed banging my regular girl Amy, when I got a knock on my door. It was Kim, who I hadn't had a chance to speak to up until that point, and she asked me to come inside her apartment and see if I could figure out what was up with her cable TV. So I told my girl Amy to wait in bed a sec and went into Kim's apartment. This girl Kim was feeding me a bunch of BS to get me to invite her into my apartment. She told me that she couldn't figure out how to get her cable working and wanted to watch my TV instead. I told her I don't have cable and that I just watch DVDs on my TV. So what does she do? She says, "well what DVDs do you have? Can I come in your apartment and watch one?" So I was thinking to myself, hmmm.... what's this broad's deal? She just met me and it's kinda late at night and she wants to watch a movie in my apartment?? Anyway, I fed her some garbage about how I had to be up early to go to work the next morning and that I was going to bed early. I mean what else could I say; my regular girl is ass naked in my bed. So Kim asked me some questions about work and then I took my exit but told her at the same time that if she wanted to she could knock on my door sometime later this week and drop in to watch a movie.

Here's my dilemma. I'm really tempted to hook up with this girl, but it seems like a bad idea considering she lives next door, and if she ends up being a psycho I'm stuck with a stalker all year. What do you guys think... how should I approach this one? The only reason it's even a question is because this girl has a great body and a cute face. HB7 might have been a low estimate. Anyone have experience with a girl next door and want to give me advice? Thanks guys.

Roman
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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J-Bone

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I wouldn't fool around with her. she sounds a bit to forward for a first impression, but ill give her the benifit of the doubt. maybe she just moved and wants a boyfriend. either way she could turn out to be a huge ****block later on
 

BluEyes

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^ Listen to this guy, he knows the score.

As a general rule, I'd back off from an aggressive girl. But then again, if you just moved and need some social proof for the bars, new friends, etc. She could be useful.

Hey, you never know... She might f*ck like a pornstar, be your best friend, cook for you, and be crazy in love for you. Don't you want to find out?

Go for it, think later. It's not like she's a cousin.

p.s. i replied to this cause my latest conquest is almost identical. I live in a townhouse with 40 floors of apartments above me, and met a girl my age on the roof one night while i was reading. I'm workin on making something of it :) She's not a HB10, but she's classy, knows how to carry herself, and has a kickazz sense of humour. wish me luck, and i will to you.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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aussiegoat55

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I don't have any experience with girls next door but life is short, have some fun.

Just know that a lot of drama/fights could unfold right next to your home, your home, a place where you're supposed to feel secure, safe, relax, and be comfortable. If this does happen, you can always move, not like this decision is set in stone.

Go for it, but know the consequences.
 

Helter Skelter

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Have fun, go for it.

The worst that can happen is she kills you and you end up in the newspaper the following day.
 

Obsidian

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HOR ALERT!!! HOR ALERT!!!

seriously, man. THink about it objectively.
 

Cremasta

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roman said:
She says, "well what DVDs do you have? Can I come in your apartment and watch one?"
DVD's? Please!!! Do you really think that Kim couldn't smell the sex on you when you got out of bed with Amy? Her hormones were going into overdrive! She was doing everything she could to keep you there.
She'll be good to go at the first mention of a threesome. Make sure when she knocks on that door, you're only half dressed.
 

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i just got out of relationship with my ex neighbor....well anywayz just kno that if u hook up that ur NOT gonna be able to get away...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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PigAdlemPimp

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My advice is this dude, (1) Never fvck a hot babe who you have to work with, (2) Never fvck a hot babe who lives in your neighbourhood.
It is much easier to visit another neighbourhood and fvck the hot babes who live there, only fvck a hot babe who you never have to see again, this is what the wise dudes do. :nono:
 

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Bang her. Take a chance.

...Make sure she's 'clean' though.
 

kdnash82

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Dude!!! Getting a$$ from a chick is not always a good thing. I've been in a situation similiar to yours. The only difference was that she lived on the 2nd floor where as I lived on the 1st. The apartment was the style of a hotel. You had to go inside the building to get to your apt, so there was no chance of her ever seeing me bringing other chicks over. When I threw a party, even if I didn't invite the chick that lived there, she would stop by. I would be juggling two chicks while on alcohol.

My point, she's gonna see you bring other chicks over. She probably already knew that your girl was there. I don't know the wording for it, but I would keep her around as a "Not a friend", I guess associate. You only speak to her to say hello. Be social, but not the guy friend. Then if you and your girl every break up, you got a booty call waiting on you next door.
 

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The HB7 next door, revisited

So it's been a while and I figured some of you who responded might want an update on the situation with the girl next door.

Last week I got another knock on my door. It was the girl next door, Kim, much to my surprise (I hadn't talked to her since she came knocking the week before asking me to fix her cable). She invited me to come hang out next door where she was having a get together with some friends later that night. I explain to her that I have plans to go out with some buddies later on but that I'd make an appearance.

So I roll in there an hour and a half later after I take care of some business around town, and it's just Kim and her girl friend Rachel, who was visiting from Europe. Anyway, they only have wine, so I grab some stuff from my place and mix a few vodka tonics. Eventually, two of Kim's other girl friends roll in and it's just me and 4 beautiful ladies. I played it smooth like James Bond the entire time and even weaved in a little story for the hell of it about the saggy baggy booby that popped out of a girl's shirt during a fight outside the bar last night (compliments of Mystery). Somehow I was right in the zone the entire night and had them laughing, telling me stories, asking me questions. Then they invited me to come join them at a friend's party, but I had to roll on to meet my buddies so I grabbed Kim's number and split off. Foreshadowing for what's to come.

That was last week. Then I run into Kim on the street a few nights later. She's with her girlfriend, and I explain to the both of them that I'm in a hurry headed out to meet a couple buddies at the bar and that since they're too young to come along, Kim will just have to take down my number real quick and call me if they're headed somewhere later. So she takes it down and that's that.

Fast forward to last night.

So I'm out on the lake having a few pitchers with my buddies when I get a call from Kim. She's at her apartment and wants to know what I'm up to. I tell her I'm out with the guys but we're headed to a party in a little while and I'll swing by and pick her up on the way over. When the dudes split off to head to a pre-party bar for a few more brewskies on the patio, I end up swinging on over to Kim's solo. She explained to me that she'd been rushing all day for sororities and was dead tired, but I told her to quit her moaning and have a drink. We hang for a while at her place before hitting that party, bail on the party early for some food and make it back to my place by midnight to throw on a movie.

Long story short, after the movie she asks me to stay the night at her place, we end up fooling around, I have her ass naked in her bed, she keeps whispering in my ear how horny she is, BUT i don't end up banging her due to an extreme case of last minute resistance that couldn't be overcome, although I played it aloof and smooth the entire time and am not worried about it. Anyway, I ended up not staying and headed back to my place cause I had to be up early the next morning for class.

So I decided I'm going to keep moving ahead and play it cool, keep letting her do the chasing and see where it takes us. More to come.Thoughts and comments welcome.

Roman
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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