lamobatsman
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the guys who play by the rules and respects the girls is the one who always loses. FACT
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
the guys who play by the rules
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Who Dares Win
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"play by the rules and in the end you will score with interest" is the biggest sh1t test ever done to humanity from those in command first even before than women.
"suffer without rebel and you will reach the kingdom of heaven"
"respect the law and in the end you will prosper"
"respect women and perseverate and in the end she will love you"
means:
"dont rebel and keep suffering and the priest will get heaven on earth"
"respect the law so the elitès will still get the lion's share"
"wait your turn, run society and make sure no left over is on state's bill"
The only rules worth to be respected are the ones you share, if something is damaging for you but you know its right respect it while if something doesnt make any sense you don't have to obey just because you're told.
"suffer without rebel and you will reach the kingdom of heaven"
"respect the law and in the end you will prosper"
"respect women and perseverate and in the end she will love you"
means:
"dont rebel and keep suffering and the priest will get heaven on earth"
"respect the law so the elitès will still get the lion's share"
"wait your turn, run society and make sure no left over is on state's bill"
The only rules worth to be respected are the ones you share, if something is damaging for you but you know its right respect it while if something doesnt make any sense you don't have to obey just because you're told.
A common theme in both the Old Testament and the New Testament is rebellion. In fact most of the men of God rebelled against society, religious leaders, rulers, and at times against God.Who Dares Win said:
I do agree with your other points though.
Society is like one big prisoner's dilemma. If everyone follows the rules, theoretically society will be a better place. But even if a few people don't, they benefit largely and screw over the ones that do follow the rules.
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I was referring more about religion "according to priests and churches" more than religion according to books (of which I have no knowledged).ArcBound said:
Again I have no knowledge about those books but I wonder if the rebellions they supported were to set the citizens free or simply take down the oppressors to put a "priest" at his place, more like what happened in Iran.
Reminds me of liberals preeching to break the rules only when the current elites are conservative so they can take their place.
Uncharted
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I remember when I was a teenager I was at church one day, and the priest was saying something about "being happy with yourself even if there is something you don't like because we are all equal." I was like "WTF?? If you don't like something, CHANGE IT!"
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Not true! I'm attracted to guys who respect girls and play by the rules. The problem is when they don't "play" at all.lamobatsman said:
My current boyfriend and I have been dating for 8 months now. He always respected me when I needed him to, but it's not like he never made a move on me at all.
I dont agree with the OP... i been married to my awesome wife for almost 16 years now .. and with her for darn near 20. im 34 now ... and guess what I am still with her. Passion is still there even after 2 kids ... I played by the rules and got the girl. Lucky maybe? WHo knows ... but whever it is .. its been great and I plan on continuing this way too .. the PUA stuff has been a great addition tho .. but i dont play it on anyone but my wife .. so ... all good! 
lamobatsman
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then why do i see girls get with guys who dont respect them?!
the guys who take their time to get to know the girl prioperly always seems to lose
the guys who take their time to get to know the girl prioperly always seems to lose
It does suck to have everything you are taught about respect be thrown back in your face. Most women are crazy and don't know what the hell they want. These are the girls you have to play games with and such.
There are girls who are down to Earth and will give you the time a day if you try. Women like being respected...girls like being treated like crap and all the games.
There are girls who are down to Earth and will give you the time a day if you try. Women like being respected...girls like being treated like crap and all the games.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Word. But whether they like to admit it, guys like the hot girls, skanks, crazies, drama queens, losers, fake *****es, etc. They're more wild, out-going, easy, sexy, etc. I don't think a lot of guys genuinely want a smart, kind, sophisticated, mature woman with sufficient self-esteem and respect.. The dumb, shallow girls are more wild and exciting - even insofar as presenting a challenge, keeping their emotions on high, and all those attraction triggers. Not to mention, they give off strong vibes of being hot and horny.oscarxp25 said:
Not that it's necessarily wrong or bad, but you gotta accept the consequences of dealing with such a specimen. That is, having to play games, dealing with chaos and unpredictability, partaking in the "war" for control, not being nice, focusing on emotional highs and lust, etc. It comes with the territory. A lot of those positive turn-on's also come with an array of heart-wrenching negatives.
A lot of people are simply expecting perfection, and it's not going to happen. Hot, in-demand, out-going, wild, loud, promiscuous girls ARE going to be shallow, dumb, unfaithful, crazy, etc. What you see is what you get.
Zion
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Another "Woe is me , not being a douche-bag will not get you the girl.Life sucks" thread.
Yaay...'Cuz we all missed having those back.
There's so much negativity in some of you guys it's depressing even for me.
Playing by the rules and being respectful makes you lose ? You know why ? Because you're playing it like that towards her , instead of yourself. You're making yourself a doormat by trying to fill all her needs without having regard for your own. You deserve to lose because you disregard your own self.And if you can't respect yourself , no one else ever will.
But then,it's so much easier to post around forums b!tching about how unfair life is,right ?
Do yourself a favor and learn to calibrate your expectations and behavior appropriately in relativity to the person you're interested in. Like someone above said , some people are infinitely more shallow than others. If you're gonna go in believing that that mythical , pure and innocent love you desperately desire is gonna come from that type , you might as well go and uppercut a grizzly in the balls expecting him not to maul your ass to the ground. Chances of you walking away in once piece are pretty much the same.
Also , if you surround yourself with this constant negativity all the time , it's gonna suck you in so deep that even if you get lucky enough to indeed find your perfect girl , you'll most likely be way to fvcked up by then and will literally repel everyone around you. That's the only FACT you need to understand.
Yaay...'Cuz we all missed having those back.
There's so much negativity in some of you guys it's depressing even for me.
Playing by the rules and being respectful makes you lose ? You know why ? Because you're playing it like that towards her , instead of yourself. You're making yourself a doormat by trying to fill all her needs without having regard for your own. You deserve to lose because you disregard your own self.And if you can't respect yourself , no one else ever will.
But then,it's so much easier to post around forums b!tching about how unfair life is,right ?
Do yourself a favor and learn to calibrate your expectations and behavior appropriately in relativity to the person you're interested in. Like someone above said , some people are infinitely more shallow than others. If you're gonna go in believing that that mythical , pure and innocent love you desperately desire is gonna come from that type , you might as well go and uppercut a grizzly in the balls expecting him not to maul your ass to the ground. Chances of you walking away in once piece are pretty much the same.
Also , if you surround yourself with this constant negativity all the time , it's gonna suck you in so deep that even if you get lucky enough to indeed find your perfect girl , you'll most likely be way to fvcked up by then and will literally repel everyone around you. That's the only FACT you need to understand.