The guys that have it the worst.

[Chickfight]

Note: this may get deleted by a mod, cause I'm pretty sure one of them doesn't like me talking about this kind of stuff.



I've come across a lot more religious girls since I moved to the states. Since I'm only 21, I'm still dealing with some promise ring types. I'm telling you, it's an untapped market of hot uncorrupted and repressed chicks. I've learned how to deal with them and they're actually easier to date and make out with than their less devout counterparts. Getting sex is a lot harder and takes longer, but i always get there eventually and they are FREAKS when unleashed.

Now I'm thinking what's going on devout Christian guys? When you're getting with a girl outside your social group, you'll usually come across a few guys from hers who will try to ****block you. These guys are nowhere to be found. I've met some of these dudes and it's bad. I don't see why they would do it. Being a devout christian (no sex before marriage and all that) has absolutely no advantages for guys. They basically get fcked over hard by society.

I was on formspring the other day and I come across these questions asked to this 25 year old guy I've met once who preaches in a youth group.

how many girls have you kissed?

Zero
Saving that for my wedding day.

have you ever had a girlfriend?

yes
She's now engaged to a good friend and I'm thrilled for them

The fck man? Gotta feel sorry for the guy, but also want to seriously slap him across the face.

I honestly believe society represses men from being men, which is influenced by christianity. The whole thing is one man, one woman, get married, have kids be faithful and be miserable your whole life until you get to heaven. It's like the rules of christianity were decided by a bunch of intelligent betas, because they were afraid of all the alpha guys doing whatever they want causing havoc and stealing all the chicks (which they would).

So I go out and do some more "research" and find this little gem on a christian girl's formspring.

thers a boy i rly rly like, but hes not rly a christian. what should I do??? ive never had a boyfriend be4, becuz ive never liked any of the christian boys. i dont know why. i just like them more as friends.

haha i felt the same way about christian boys for EVER so i get what you mean :b...

This just goes to show that it doesn't matter how "perfect" for a girl you are. All these girls think they want a guy who is passionate about Jesus or whatever, but when a guy who is confident in his sexuality and doesn't even consider following some sh!tty ass abstinence rule, comes along, their panties get wet. And don't bring up the fckin Jonas brothers. You're not world famous, you can't get away with it. And even if you get a girl interested enough to be with a guy. She's gonna get the fck outta there once she realized you're not even going to TRY to plow her, whether she's christian or not. Check these excerpts from this guys blog.

...Well as im sure all of you could guess im still single lol hahaha maybe im doomed to stay this way J hehe well I guess its just not the time for me to get involved...

Now some closing words To the

Girls ….. Please dress modestly have some respect for your selves and tell him no! Get your mind out of whos dating who and what guys are in to you! Get in the word get in your school books! LEARN to cook and what It means to be a Lady. Make your self awesome on the inside if a guy just wants you for how you look hes way off track stay far far away slow down a little bit
Guys ! come on your making me feel bad why do you have to just chase these girls around you need to do the same things! Learn to be a Gentlemen and respect her and her boundaries. Look on the inside and don’t be afraid to feel a little Get in Gods word and learn to be a biblical Husband and provider and beyond that a Leader!

At least he got the "learn to cook" part right

The guys are all the biggest afcs and they wont improve themselves cause they have this attitude that God will let them have a girlfriend when they're ready.

Everyone's got the right to believe what they want, I don't mind. In fact I like the little arrangement we've got going now, cause there are some HOT christian chicks out there, but don't just fall into line with society expectations. That's how you end up in an unhappy marriage with your wife getting D from the pool boy. Then one day you'll retire and maybe go live by the sea somewhere and sit there thinking about all the life you missed out on and the chances you didn't take.

 

[Diaforetikos]

Its not Christian views. Its the so called Christian upbringing while still trying to live in a modern society. A real Christian focuses on their passion. In this case, Jesus. But when you got these kids who are raised up in the church, being told what to believe, before they believe it themselves, they gain a desire outside of their upbringing that parents haven't acknowledged. So when they actually try to act out on their new found desire, mommy and daddy didn't get around to telling them about that because its not in the Bible.

My best friend is a hardcore Christian, and he has game. He is strong and stern and passionate. But he found out what he truly believes in. Not what his parents raised him to believe. He was raised in the church, but still had to find out on his own. Now he is extremely passionate about his beliefs, and yet all the girls are after him. Sucks for those ho's.

So its not Christianity that's the problem, its the upbringing and the neglect of never letting the child experience the world on their own. Once that person decides on their own if they wanna continue believing in God or move on to something new, either way, its better than sitting in half-a**ed land, living the half way lifestyle.

I still believe in God, and some what claim to be a Christian... some what... but I was soft. My mom never talked about relationships. She just told me to read and pray. So when my desires came into question, I had no answers. I cared at first, but soon I found why I truly believed in being a Christian. Then I completely ignored my desires and fffocused on my new passion. But being young comes with ignorance. I didn't know enough of my belief to care as much as I should have. Next thing I know, I'm back to women. And it sucked...

I didn't know crap and got rejected too many times. That's when I decided to get that part of my life straightened out. Besides living this lifestyle was way easier than being a Christian. I could be lazier. So that's where I am. But it had nothing to do with being a Christian. It had more to do with my upbringing and the info I never received compared to the information I did receive.

We can't judge others lifestyles just because they don't have the understanding we have. Yes, it does suck to see men fail at things they shouldn't, but no two people have the exact same knowledge. If they really wanna learn to get better, they'll seek the help they need. Who are we to say anything about their upbringing and lifestyle?

 

[Chickfight]

Yeah, I'm not saying no Christian guys are attractive to women, especially not when they get older. The problem is when Christian values are used as a means to make kids "behave" and act in accordance with society, and it's taught from a young age. For the girls it doesn't matter much, cause a guy can always come along and sweep her off her feet, but no girl is gonna want to come and sweep a christian virgin guy off his feet.

I'm talking about the real DEVOUT christian guys, a lot of christian guys will be like fvck this, I wanna bang her anyway. But if a guy is AFC to begin with AND Christian, there's a low chance he'll get out of it. He'll just accept it all as God's will and deny his own sexuality until marriage. The problem is there can be no romance and intimacy without sexuality. What girl will want to marry an eunuch? I mean, look at the guy above. He's 25 and the only girlfriend he's ever had, but never even kissed is engaged to his good friend AND he's "thrilled" for them? At least a non-christian afc will be like "this is bullsh!t" and do something to change so it doesn't happen again. The worst part is, he actually seems like a decent dude. Really passionate, adventurous and a confident speaker. He's just missing that one thing, but hey if he's happy that props on him.

 

[RSanders219]

The whole role of religion in society is specifically to keep the average citizens in line and to keep the elites which govern the society on top and in power.

However, I do not look down on anyone for having religion in their life. As long as it's a positive reinforcement for them.

But hey, let the man do what he wants to do. If he's completely happy being a strict devout Christian, then let him do it. I hardly think the guy will ever have a wedding day outside of an Amish community or 1600s Puritan life. But let him do what he wants.

You should check out the Satanic Bible if the concept of religion interests you. It's more philosophical than religious and the author really delves into the roots of judeo-christian culture.

 

[zekko]

The guy who is 25 and has never kissed a girl, obviously that's a pretty extreme case.

I have always thought that the super strict Victorian type views of sex don't really come from true Christianity, but from churches trying to enforce control or their own agenda. I guess a lot of this hinges on how you define "fornication". Clearly sexual immorality is bad (who wants a girl who is out whoring it up all the time?), but if you stick to an interpretation of "no premarital sex" it does seem to place guys in a bad situation - since men are expected to be experienced in the bedroom.

Also, I think a lot of Christian principles are actually ideals. They only really work in an ideal, perfect world, where everyone actually followed them. For instance, the idea that if you get divorced, you can never get remarried. Ideally, you would only get married once. That is the highest possible ideal, and that's what a lot of Christian principles represent. Bring it down to the flawed, dirty earth though, and all kinds of problems come up.

 

[OC Speedball]

A lot of them are AFCs, yes. But you got one thing wrong- Christians are the happiest people I know. My friends and I joke that they are TOO happy.

 

[Chickfight]

A lot of them are AFCs, yes. But you got one thing wrong- Christians are the happiest people I know. My friends and I joke that they are TOO happy.

Yeah you're right. I guess believing that you're going to be in eternal paradise some day does that to you.

 

[BigJimbo]

Obviously you boys are from the Midwest or something. If you were in NYC you would know that Orthodox Jews are as about as repressed as they get. Even the guys clothing is repressive. At least Orthodox Muslims let the men dress in color.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYzGPSVi-Ic
Americans are clueless beasts.

 

[xdreamz]

hell yea this is a good topic of convo. imagine a world without religion, it would be a world without a lifestyle, without any positivity, without any moral standing. i am a christian believer myself, and i can honestly say that without it i wouldn't even be half the man that i was today. a life without good faith based learning would be disasterous. it would just be drama.

the attitude is not, let's try to change women to fit our needs. learn to cook for yourself. i'm not on some let's forgo a societal rebellion ****, I know i can't change it's standards. i can only be me. i have ONE religious friend, and he lives that way because he chooses to and he's happy.

there are many great seducers who were religious. one was casanova who was always with the high priests. the bible itself has accounts of female seducers that pretty much invented the game.

 

[zekko]

I guess believing that you're going to be in eternal paradise some day does that to you.

You don't have to focus on the afterlife to get value out of spirituality.
Most religions (including Christianity) teach you to focus on the here and now.

the bible itself has accounts of female seducers that pretty much invented the game.

Look at all the Old Testament patriarchs who had multiple wives and concubines. Of course that was quite a different world back then. Those guys had the wealth to provide for all those women. And don't forget that until very recently in history, there was no such thing as birth control.