"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The girl's best friend is a b****

Lost In the Seas

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Ya, the best friend of the girl i am trying to get is a b****. She's amazingly stuck up on an unbelieveable level, bizzzare, emotionally insane, ugly, a real pain in the ass and one of the few most b***** girls you can ever find, it's a wonder to me how she can be the best friend to the girl im trying to get, who is in everyway opposite to her: fun loving, humorous, carefree, good natured, romantic, active, adventurous etc

The girl and i are exes, but i do know for a fact that she is still a bit interested in me and want things to be back the way they were, and i am to her too. Whenever i try to advance a move her best friend is always there to kill it.

How do get my way around her, note that she hates me and i hate her just as much. Can i do anything at all to destroy the friendship between them? Honestly i dont think they are fit to be good friends.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You just have to kick in that agility about how you go about this. Your going to have to be quick and smooth. Also, don't make it obvious that your trying to make an advance. This is a tough situation because quite naturally the girls bestfriend will know everything that you do because the girl that you want to hook up with will tell her bestfriend about you. Basically, your going to have to show the girl that you want to hook up with that your worth it. Now, your at the very end of the problem. Once you get to the end, all you have to do is apply all of the techniques and traits that you've learned that attract women. I.E. ****y funny, unpredictable, confident, strong, and even witty.
 

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The BestFriend is trying to protect the girl you are going for- chances are, the girl has told her BestFriend all about you, and, if you are ex's, only sees her friend getting hurt by you in the future.

As DJ4Real said, just try and attract the girl- you are after a relationship with HER, not her best friend...

note: the more you do to try and "break them up", the more stubborn and determined it will make the BF, and it will make you look like a jerk to the girl... You can only hope she realises by herself that this girl is no good for her- who knows, maybe she is a completely different person when you arent there?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Lost In the Seas

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ya guess it's the only thing i can do for now

but im most scared of is the b**** making stuff about me to the girl im after, like telling her im a jerk, loser, freak etc, and i don't think i can prevent her from saying that
 

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Don't admit that your "scared" just be confident and show this girl that you like a good time.
 

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You're after your ex.
Your ex has a friend you wouldn't spend time with even if you were paid.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
 

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Originally posted by Lost In the Seas
o yes they do, what have we learnt in maths? Two negatives = a positive :D lol
Only when you multiply/divide..
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm hurt that i'm the only one who points the following out: If you do get with this girl, you will be fighting the beast of a ***** the ENTIRE time. You can't expect her to stop being a ***** just cuz your with her freind.

So you're gonna have to straighten things out before anything goes on with the chick. How you do it is up to you, personaly i think if you just ram that ***** and tell them both what you think of her, and if the good chick ever wants to even fathom the idea of hangin with you, she better not have the psycho hose beast around.

BTW: **** the math.
 

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this b**** and i actually have some very complicated relationships

before i met this girl, i knew this b**** earlier on, and believe it or not we actually went out on a date once..........................even now i still can't believe i did that, for the mother of god!!

but then i realize what an insane psycho b**** she is, and then i just gave her up completely, but i got to know the girl i want now, which is one good thing in return, they just knew eachother as normal friends

then all these earlier months when i have some of the best time with the girl, this b**** had this "personality reform" which means she tried to be a better person, she finally realize what a b she was (and probably still is), fancy that.....

so she got my phone and mail through the girl i was having attractions to and said how sorry she was for being a b**** to me, and now she said she doesn't wanna lose me as a "friend"

i seriously don't give a damn about her, so i was like "f*** that do whatever you want i don't give a s***" attitude, to cut a long story short she started gainning her friends back after she "changed" and then she knew about what's going on between the girl and me too

for some reason they become best friends friends and the b thinks she's some kind of guardian to the girl, she probaby thinks im not good enough to be her best friend bf or angry at how i was cold and ignoring her for a time period before, and now she tries whatever she can to keep me from her

now i just laugh at how naive and **** up the b is lol
 
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