“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The Girlfriend Experience

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there is a very interesting documentary on netflix we watched today me being the documentary nut that i am. on high end prostitution.

we talk about paying for it up front here and I mean, it is what it is.

but what i saw on this TV show threw me for a loop.


these, high end call girls, as in 25 grand a weekend call girls, in most if not all cases, it wasn't about the sex. These men, most stupidly wealthy, were paying basically to have a woman care about them and listen to their problems and to be arm peices.

and I am thinking you know... isn't that kinda what your wife is for? what i am getting at is I mean it's one thing to want to F something you've never fvcked before or to pay a woman to fulfill some sexual desires that your wife may not field. I get that. But just about all the men that they interviewed they all said the same stuff.. along the lines of it's a break from the everyday responsibilities, a companion who listens to me and is interested in what i have to say and while I mean, they are guys paying for hookers i don't expect them to be telling the full truth, I think that's a pretty honest assessment of what the guys were looking for.

I guess what i am getting at is, it's a sad sad state of affaris, when a married man has to pay a woman 6 grand a night to listen to him and act like she gives a fvck about him, because in reality that's all the guys are paying for. A desirable woman to show them some love so to sperak. the sex is obvious but if it was just about sex these guys could do it much cheaper.

I mean it's one thing to not have sex with your man, but i mean, **** cook a meal or rub his back every once in a while, listen to what his problems are at work, give a **** about your husband at least pretend to give a **** about your husband. a man should not have to pay another woman for attention that he is not getting at home. one man had gotten so into it he was booking this particular woman for 5 hours a week that's for her like 10 grand a week just off this one client, and the dude was married.
 

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backbreaker said:
I mean it's one thing to not have sex with your man, but i mean, **** cook a meal or rub his back every once in a while, listen to what his problems are at work, give a **** about your husband at least pretend to give a **** about your husband. a man should not have to pay another woman for attention that he is not getting at home. one man had gotten so into it he was booking this particular woman for 5 hours a week that's for her like 10 grand a week just off this one client, and the dude was married.
These are men from the highest tier of society Yale...Harvard Business/London school of economics...appointment as junior VP in daddy's multinational conglomerate.

I know this crowd, not the most socialized or astute. They simply do what they are told and life is wonderful..until they hit age 30-40 then they begin to see a bit clearer...they see the girl they married (or were forced to marry) country club girl, cotillion etc NEVER GAVE A FVCK ABOUT THEM

The girl was in it for the status, the lifestyle, the guy was just an afterthought....look at most superwealthy couples you'll see this....its called a 'power' couple not a 'love' couple. The guys THINKS the girls loves him, but she loves the money...guys are very bad at seeing the truth of this.

So about the time these 'poor little rich boys' hit 40 they start to look for true relationships. But they are so high up they can't find anyone. So they spend more time at the country club playing tennis or golf, or they pay girls to listen to them (and probably fvck in the azz later hopefully to get their moneys worth :).

Frankly Backbreaker I would think you would be more sympathetic to these dudes given your previous post on difficulties you are having retaining male friends. These guys are are many tiers higher than you in terms of money and power so have EVEN LESS options socially.
 

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If you believe in maslow's hierarchy of needs, you need companionship, friendship, sexual intimacy. Its a prerequisite for confidence, self esteem and respect.

For someone with money, this is probably the easiest way to get this.
 

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Burroughs said:
These are men from the highest tier of society Yale...Harvard Business/London school of economics...appointment as junior VP in daddy's multinational conglomerate.

I know this crowd, not the most socialized or astute. They simply do what they are told and life is wonderful..until they hit age 30-40 then they begin to see a bit clearer...they see the girl they married (or were forced to marry) country club girl, cotillion etc NEVER GAVE A FVCK ABOUT THEM

The girl was in it for the status, the lifestyle, the guy was just an afterthought....look at most superwealthy couples you'll see this....its called a 'power' couple not a 'love' couple. The guys THINKS the girls loves him, but she loves the money...guys are very bad at seeing the truth of this.

So about the time these 'poor little rich boys' hit 40 they start to look for true relationships. But they are so high up they can't find anyone. So they spend more time at the country club playing tennis or golf, or they pay girls to listen to them (and probably fvck in the azz later hopefully to get their moneys worth :).

Frankly Backbreaker I would think you would be more sympathetic to these dudes given your previous post on difficulties you are having retaining male friends. These guys are are many tiers higher than you in terms of money and power so have EVEN LESS options socially.
I mea the guy is to blame but what i am saying is you think to keep a millionaire happy you could pretend like you give a ****. i don't think that's too much to ask.
 

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There's a reason they call it the 'world's oldest profession.' The same thing has been going on since the beginning of time. Prostitution is about a lot more than sex, especially in regard to a working girl's skill set.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You are thinking like a logical man, not the high end princesses...who've been treated like real princesses their whole life. Probably cheaper than the divorce.
 

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They also claim to read Playboy for the articles.

I think these guys say they want these girls for their listening ability but I think they want them for the entire experience. Maybe they are even fooling themselves that they really like the connection but you could pay these hookers for a deep conversation that doesn't involve sex. They'd probably be down. Never heard of that happening.

Guys want some good looking strange and a little conversation. Probably talk about their wives.
 

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I mean this in the kindest way OP but you really need to start seeing a psychiatrist. You post endlessly here for god knows what reason, about stuff that's only tangentially related to anything. You've averaged more than 2 posts per day for the last 10 years in these forums alone.

You really really need to get a life man. Hire one of those fancy hookers if you must but do something. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm really quite concerned.
 

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These are men from the highest tier of society Yale...Harvard Business/London school of economics...appointment as junior VP in daddy's multinational conglomerate.

I know this crowd, not the most socialized or astute. They simply do what they are told and life is wonderful..until they hit age 30-40 then they begin to see a bit clearer...they see the girl they married (or were forced to marry) country club girl, cotillion etc NEVER GAVE A FVCK ABOUT THEM

The girl was in it for the status, the lifestyle, the guy was just an afterthought....look at most superwealthy couples you'll see this....its called a 'power' couple not a 'love' couple. The guys THINKS the girls loves him, but she loves the money...guys are very bad at seeing the truth of this.

So about the time these 'poor little rich boys' hit 40 they start to look for true relationships. But they are so high up they can't find anyone. So they spend more time at the country club playing tennis or golf, or they pay girls to listen to them (and probably fvck in the azz later hopefully to get their moneys worth :).

Frankly Backbreaker I would think you would be more sympathetic to these dudes given your previous post on difficulties you are having retaining male friends. These guys are are many tiers higher than you in terms of money and power so have EVEN LESS options socially.
Women want a man that is rich, tall & fit, has style and takes good care of his looks, is in touch with his feelings, cooks & cleans, ect... Those 'ideal' men aren't interested in women, women will not settle and build then maintain a life with an average joe since women truly believe the word "compromise" is where the other party is giving up everything they wanted while she gets her way.
 

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Women want a man that is rich, tall & fit, has style and takes good care of his looks, is in touch with his feelings, cooks & cleans, ect... Those 'ideal' men aren't interested in women, women will not settle and build then maintain a life with an average joe since women truly believe the word "compromise" is where the other party is giving up everything they wanted while she gets her way.
So that's why she does the dream killer bull?
 

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In the moment yes, but how often do women date the "bull" so to speak?
"Dream killer bull$hit" I mean. Some of them take an active process in removing or reducing those ambitions. The reason why is incredibly selfish. If she knocks this out of you she and others will also be less attracted.
 

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there is a very interesting documentary on netflix we watched today me being the documentary nut that i am. on high end prostitution.

we talk about paying for it up front here and I mean, it is what it is.

but what i saw on this TV show threw me for a loop.


these, high end call girls, as in 25 grand a weekend call girls, in most if not all cases, it wasn't about the sex. These men, most stupidly wealthy, were paying basically to have a woman care about them and listen to their problems and to be arm peices.

and I am thinking you know... isn't that kinda what your wife is for? what i am getting at is I mean it's one thing to want to F something you've never fvcked before or to pay a woman to fulfill some sexual desires that your wife may not field. I get that. But just about all the men that they interviewed they all said the same stuff.. along the lines of it's a break from the everyday responsibilities, a companion who listens to me and is interested in what i have to say and while I mean, they are guys paying for hookers i don't expect them to be telling the full truth, I think that's a pretty honest assessment of what the guys were looking for.

I guess what i am getting at is, it's a sad sad state of affaris, when a married man has to pay a woman 6 grand a night to listen to him and act like she gives a fvck about him, because in reality that's all the guys are paying for. A desirable woman to show them some love so to sperak. the sex is obvious but if it was just about sex these guys could do it much cheaper.

I mean it's one thing to not have sex with your man, but i mean, **** cook a meal or rub his back every once in a while, listen to what his problems are at work, give a **** about your husband at least pretend to give a **** about your husband. a man should not have to pay another woman for attention that he is not getting at home. one man had gotten so into it he was booking this particular woman for 5 hours a week that's for her like 10 grand a week just off this one client, and the dude was married.
If you're willing to pay even more, you get not just the girlfriend experience but the wife experience (she nags you to death, cheats on you with your brother and then takes half of your wealth).
 

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Personally know 3 hookers, and one things for sure, western women could learn a lot from them.

absolute joy to be around.

One thing Ive always been attracted to is a woman who shows interest in my life, or my daughters. This one took my daughter shopping to selfridges in her convertible mercedes on two occassions, when we lived in the same street.

Absolute blast.

your average western woman hasnt got a clue
 

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there is a very interesting documentary on netflix we watched today me being the documentary nut that i am. on high end prostitution.

we talk about paying for it up front here and I mean, it is what it is.

but what i saw on this TV show threw me for a loop.


these, high end call girls, as in 25 grand a weekend call girls, in most if not all cases, it wasn't about the sex. These men, most stupidly wealthy, were paying basically to have a woman care about them and listen to their problems and to be arm peices.

and I am thinking you know... isn't that kinda what your wife is for? what i am getting at is I mean it's one thing to want to F something you've never fvcked before or to pay a woman to fulfill some sexual desires that your wife may not field. I get that. But just about all the men that they interviewed they all said the same stuff.. along the lines of it's a break from the everyday responsibilities, a companion who listens to me and is interested in what i have to say and while I mean, they are guys paying for hookers i don't expect them to be telling the full truth, I think that's a pretty honest assessment of what the guys were looking for.

I guess what i am getting at is, it's a sad sad state of affaris, when a married man has to pay a woman 6 grand a night to listen to him and act like she gives a fvck about him, because in reality that's all the guys are paying for. A desirable woman to show them some love so to sperak. the sex is obvious but if it was just about sex these guys could do it much cheaper.

I mean it's one thing to not have sex with your man, but i mean, **** cook a meal or rub his back every once in a while, listen to what his problems are at work, give a **** about your husband at least pretend to give a **** about your husband. a man should not have to pay another woman for attention that he is not getting at home. one man had gotten so into it he was booking this particular woman for 5 hours a week that's for her like 10 grand a week just off this one client, and the dude was married.
I suppose you could say that if that's how a man wants to spend his money, then it's up to him. Personally I can't see how it would be worth spending that kind of money. Beyond being an figure of perfection physically and being willing to do anything and everything in bed, I can't see what else a prostitute has to offer. Why would you want to keep her around after you've finished? What are you going to talk about - "have you sucked any good diks lately?" "What do you like to do in your free time, when you're not getting rammed by rich men?" That kind of conversation isn't worth 24,900$ in my humble opinion.
 

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How about hire a shrink to listen to the problems. Then spin plates with the 8-9s. Six grand a night. Ya ok. Pass
 

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Personally know 3 hookers, and one things for sure, western women could learn a lot from them.

absolute joy to be around.

One thing Ive always been attracted to is a woman who shows interest in my life, or my daughters. This one took my daughter shopping to selfridges in her convertible mercedes on two occassions, when we lived in the same street.

Absolute blast.

your average western woman hasnt got a clue
I get what you're saying. I'd be a bit concerned my daughter would get seduced by their lifestyle and go down the same route when they find out down the line... :D
 

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I get what you're saying. I'd be a bit concerned my daughter would get seduced by their lifestyle and go down the same route when they find out down the line... :D
she was 9 I would never have let her know, made sure "i paid" lol
 
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