The Girl Friend....(how to handle this)

[john siegal]

I've been playing around with a MILF (actually a few of them) but this one in particular has been playing hard to get. (She's seperated from her Husband and going through a divorce claims to have been gone 5 yrs now).

Every time we get together, there is heavy petting and deep kissing but she has resisted my advances. This has been going on for 6 mths now.

She's a really nice mature female from the old school...but...i'm frustrated with it and ready to move on. I still want to remain friends with her and keep the door open in the future.

The other day, i ran into a girl-friend of hers at a local department store and picked up some "vibes."

We exchanged phone numbers and emails under the guise of "lets all go out one night" premise.

I could tell the friend would be interested in getting together but we were both thinking the same thing; "you're dating my friend aren't you?"

QUESTION:
How do i get in with the friend without offending the MILF?

 

[boomerick]

6 months is toooooo loooonnnngggg.

You are LETTING YOURSELF be used.

See my response to your movie post.

Spend the time and money you are wasteing on this chick on something productive...because this ain't.

Offending this MILF would actually be a good thing.

Dump her and go for the friend.

Over and Out.

 

[thefonz]

6 months is a long time, I agree. I think you need to put your foot down and make your intentions clear with the milf. Having that uncomfortable talk is something alot of guys are afraid of verbalizing but it will save you another 6 months of bull****.

Tell her your looking for more intimacy and if she can't offer it then you are going to look somewhere else. Be a man, make your feelings known. Doesn't matter if she's old school, honesty from a man is acceptable at any age

Now, as far as the friend is concerned (I think the milf will be mad at you no matter what) I think you should explain the situation with the milf to her if you claim she is interested in you. Once she is on your side than proceed to game her as normal. Unless they are really good friends then you don't stand a chance in any of this.

That's what I think, honesty.

 

[jophil28]

I could tell the friend would be interested in getting together but we were both thinking the same thing; "you're dating my friend aren't you?"

QUESTION:
How do i get in with the friend without offending the MILF?

How did you develop the psychic ability to read another person's thoughts ?
It is likely that you are merely projecting your own thoughts, fears and doubts onto this other woman.

There is no doubt, based on her actions, that #1 MILF does not want to develop an adult involvement with you. She wants a loose arrangement with you in which her ego needs are met occassionally without any deeper involvement or committment on her part.. Her connection with you is not a "relationship" as such, it is an arrangement of convenience for HER. You are her distraction, and her plaything.
She is satisfied with it, but you are not, therefore you owe her little consideration in respect of your dating practises with other women.

If I were you I would stop thinking that you need to be cautious about 'offending' #1 - in fact creating some competition for her by datng other women might be just what is needed to kick this "old school " woman out of her smug complacency.. You really owe her nothing at all .

In fact I would ask #2 out - just her and you. If she accepts, then SHE does not care about upsetting #1 . Oh, she may make some squeak of a protest, but women are skilled at saying what they perceive to be "the right thing". IN my experience, women LOVE taking a guy off another women. It is the ultimate victory for them.

" Lets all go out as friends", is adolescent thinking, high schoolers hang out in groups - it's safe. I bet that you headed the convo in that direction to send her the message that you are a harmless, trustworthy guy with no 'evil' intent - right ? Wrong !

Read more about what attracts women. Your beliefs need urgent review.

 

[john siegal]

thanks jophil...

How did you develop the psychic ability to read another person's thoughts ?
It is likely that you are merely projecting your own thoughts, fears and doubts onto this other woman.

How?...because she asked me!

(I failed to put that in the first post but she actually asked me if i was on a Date with her friend when we were first introduced. The MILF actually introduced us a few months back)

Anyway...i like what you are saying. Much could be BS floating around in my mind of which i am presuming.

I talked with both of them yesterday...and Last night i went out with the MILF again. We had a great time at a local Blues Bar...and had a little conversation after. She couldn't talk much because her disfunctional drug addict daughter was acting up and she had to get home.

I asked her where we were going in our relationship and she said "i don't try to plan things...everything i've tried to plan doesn't seem to work out...so I just go with the Flow!"

Anyway, i wasn't getting anywhere so i left with the intentions that i would get to know her friend and see what happens there.

FRIEND CONVO
i spoke with her friend early in the day and she was very nice and friendly on the phone. I told her we will get together soon and she agreed. ...We will see what happens...

 

[Jeffst1980]

The MILF sounds like a waste of time. If she was truly into you, she wouldn't put up so many walls. You will be doing her a favor in the long run by dropping her.

All you need to do is give the friend some plausible deniability, so she can feel like it wasn't her fault. That means you shouldn't discuss the MILF with her- just enjoy this girl's company and if you two get 'caught up in the moment,' so be it. This gives her the ability to claim that she didn't know you two were dating, and won't make her feel like a crappy friend.

 

[DanelMadr]

You are the CUDDLE-BYTCH
i'm sorry I just had to say that out loud. It is so rude but true. First time I heard that word I laughed to myself for three days.

Problem with MILFs and especially divorced ones...it is not so much about love for them as it is about showing her ex a finger. And they need to know they are not out of the game. Since they can't attract wealthy older men, they go for poorer but younger ones.

If it is OK with you I won't stop you. But if fakking them is sort of being a jackazz...cuddling them is even worse. So feel free to bang her gf anytime you want and anywhere...the MILFs bedroom would be best. REVENGE for 6 months of cuddling.

 

[john siegal]

Thanks for the input.

1. We are in Palm Beach Florida,...no shortage of Rich older men...they are everywhere...and they outnumber the women 2 to 1.

2. This MILF has no problem getting attention (hence the name MILF). The dudes are all over her ass, both young and old, rich and poor.

3. CuddleBycth? ...that's funny as chit...I gotta look that one up!

Thanks bud!

You are the CUDDLE-BYTCH
i'm sorry I just had to say that out loud. It is so rude but true. First time I heard that word I laughed to myself for three days.

 

[john siegal]

MILF had a convo with her GF about me and told the GF we are just friends....Apparently the GF was concerned enough about her friends feelings to get some feedback first.

NEW TURN OF EVENTS
MILF and GF now work together....for the same employer LOL...


When the GF told me this...i was a little taking back...but i guess it doesn't matter (or maybe it does to them).

All i can say is,...its a good thing i got other action going...depending on these two might be a little too much to ask for.

The MILF sounds like a waste of time. If she was truly into you, she wouldn't put up so many walls. You will be doing her a favor in the long run by dropping her.

All you need to do is give the friend some plausible deniability, so she can feel like it wasn't her fault. That means you shouldn't discuss the MILF with her- just enjoy this girl's company and if you two get 'caught up in the moment,' so be it. This gives her the ability to claim that she didn't know you two were dating, and won't make her feel like a crappy friend.

 

[Joe Stud]

Whats taking so long? Get her out.

 

[john siegal]

Huh?

Get who out...(u lost me)?

Whats taking so long? Get her out.

 

[Todd Preston]

Really is too soon to tell with either of these *****es.

I mean the MILF is going through a divorce and who knows what's on her mind. Could be a conservative broad and if she has trouble with her kids that only adds to the confusion with the Dudes she's seeing.

The Girlfriend will definitely be sensitive to her friends feelings over yours so i would take a step back and let both these two be for awhile.

Stop calling one or the other. They will get the message that one is in and the other is out....believe me women talk (all kinds of chit).