Microphone Fiend
Master Don Juan
this thread brings to mind another SoSuave theme that is recurring to me at least. The mature men are extremely educated and well-versed in the world of women, but at times (and there are a handful of them) the posters come across as misogynistic and deluded. Even some of the better posters I have to say, like this post by joekerr31 who I normally enjoy:
I mean, maybe in the environment that the Mature Men grew up in, this seems much more 'true' but in the post-modern world we live in, I have to question a lot of what is said or implied in the post. The funniest thing is that some of the posters they talk about the matriax or matrix or whatever the new lingo is, and they do not realize how they are stuck in a system of their own, trading one false reality for another. Here are some of the things I think is wrong with this post
1) Men are supposed to shoulder everyone's problem's not just their own.
If you insinuate that women are weak for not protecting men, then you are insinuating that in order for men to be strong, one thing they must do is protect women. SS teach us to just listen to women's problems and try not to offer advice? It teaches us to live our lives and let women be icing on the cake, not the cake itself, it tells us to GFTOW and that there are plenty of fish in the sea. So i ask, why should I be responsible for someone other than my offspring? Because I was born with an extra chromosome? Or is it because society deems it acceptable in the matrix...
2. Women are terrible problem solvers
Based on the scientific study you concocted? Based on the recurring type of of women you've met thus far in your life compared to the ever-growing number of women in the world? Your OWN parents? Generalizations based on women in the 1980s?
3. Black Women are the only women who struggle
I laughed out loud at that statement, rife with bullsh!t. Do you honestly think only black women struggle? Do you identify more with black women? Perhaps you were one in a previous lifetime? Do you assume that black men have no parental figures other than grandparents? Is this the only example of a strong woman you have seen in your lifetime? What is your reasoning behind singling out this race and excluding all the others???
4. Women are poor empathizers
I would go as far as to say women are as good if not better empathizers as men. Look at the idea of seduction and ask yourself which sex seems to be faring better in the world we live in. What is seduction other than putting yourself in your target's shoes and deciding what is the next best step?
Perhaps women are poor empathizers when it comes to the opposite sex, but is that really worth pointing out if we as males are the kettle calling the pot black?
I love 99% of the stuff in the Mature Men's section but sometimes you guys just go off the wall. I'm not saying iqqi is a good poster, but I think some of you need her there to keep yourself at least somewhat grounded in reality. I don't agree with any of what she says when it comes to theory or actual field techniques, but most of the time she is defending women it is imo rightfully so and you guys are two steps away from revoking their voting privileges.
joekerr31 said:
I mean, maybe in the environment that the Mature Men grew up in, this seems much more 'true' but in the post-modern world we live in, I have to question a lot of what is said or implied in the post. The funniest thing is that some of the posters they talk about the matriax or matrix or whatever the new lingo is, and they do not realize how they are stuck in a system of their own, trading one false reality for another. Here are some of the things I think is wrong with this post
1) Men are supposed to shoulder everyone's problem's not just their own.
If you insinuate that women are weak for not protecting men, then you are insinuating that in order for men to be strong, one thing they must do is protect women. SS teach us to just listen to women's problems and try not to offer advice? It teaches us to live our lives and let women be icing on the cake, not the cake itself, it tells us to GFTOW and that there are plenty of fish in the sea. So i ask, why should I be responsible for someone other than my offspring? Because I was born with an extra chromosome? Or is it because society deems it acceptable in the matrix...
2. Women are terrible problem solvers
Based on the scientific study you concocted? Based on the recurring type of of women you've met thus far in your life compared to the ever-growing number of women in the world? Your OWN parents? Generalizations based on women in the 1980s?
3. Black Women are the only women who struggle
I laughed out loud at that statement, rife with bullsh!t. Do you honestly think only black women struggle? Do you identify more with black women? Perhaps you were one in a previous lifetime? Do you assume that black men have no parental figures other than grandparents? Is this the only example of a strong woman you have seen in your lifetime? What is your reasoning behind singling out this race and excluding all the others???
4. Women are poor empathizers
I would go as far as to say women are as good if not better empathizers as men. Look at the idea of seduction and ask yourself which sex seems to be faring better in the world we live in. What is seduction other than putting yourself in your target's shoes and deciding what is the next best step?
Perhaps women are poor empathizers when it comes to the opposite sex, but is that really worth pointing out if we as males are the kettle calling the pot black?
I love 99% of the stuff in the Mature Men's section but sometimes you guys just go off the wall. I'm not saying iqqi is a good poster, but I think some of you need her there to keep yourself at least somewhat grounded in reality. I don't agree with any of what she says when it comes to theory or actual field techniques, but most of the time she is defending women it is imo rightfully so and you guys are two steps away from revoking their voting privileges.
