"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The dreaded FRIEND ZONE...and getting out

Elf2

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Ok so back in my senior year of high school (she was a freshman) I started talking to this girl and after about 4/5 months of talking, obviously this girl wasn’t attracted to me and I knew this. We hung out a couple times and eventually I asked her to my prom but her mom wouldn’t let her (truth). I have a feeling that she might of thought I liked her which may of not worked in my favor, but I eventually just told her I was attracted and that was it. After I asker her we didn’t talk for about 3 months. During the summer we talked a lot, almost everyday but never hung out, she kept making up stupid excuses. Obviously, I know I am 100% in the friend zone. Now that I’m at college I still talk to her everyday but multiple nights I’ve been drunk and told her that I love her. As a friend. Now the thing with this girl is that her parents are divorced and lives with her mom in a huge rich house, but despite she has all this money, is still very unhappy. I don’t think a guy has ever told her that he loves her, even as a friend. She believes me. Which is why I think she is so comfortable with me. We both know we want the same thing in a relationship as we both just talked as friends about it. Today I was talking about a girl that she goes to school with and how cute I thought she was, but after I was done she got very defensive and didn’t feel like talking. I’m going home soon and I will see her but I want to know…what are my chances of coming out of the friend zone and potentially having a relationship with her? After I see her I plan to tell her that I’m developing feelings for her and that I think we should stop talking as being friends just isn’t cutting it for me. If she doesn’t like me, then I’ll stop talking to her.

So, is it possible for me to come out the friend zone?
If so, how?
What things can I do?
Or am I ****ed with her?
 

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

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Hi ! My first time here so I'll try to be quick& direct :)
There are 3 things to do to go out of the LJBF zone :
1) "Vanish" for some week or more.
2) Change your style [grooming ?] and behaviour [ohh my cute friend !]; and develope a VERY HIGHT alpha attitude.
3) Restart all the things with the girl : now , you are new , smarter and more powerful;

Here's some tips :
*tell her a story about your "vanishing" thing : [oh you know ! I was out of the town and all of a sudden bla bla bla .... and you know .. this is changing my life for EVER !!]
*KINO escalate dude !!! try some kiiinoooo it's the only way of getting out of the LJBFz !
*be direct [TOTALLY !] ... or inderect [PLAYFULLY !!!] it's up to you :)
And of course ... Have Fun :up:
 

Bvbidd

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Actions speak louder then words.

Or you could just get her drunk.
 

Tenzen

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ur talking a lil too much to her and not enough hanging out. Don't confess anything to her man WTH are u doin! Shes in highschool i'm pretty sure she doesn't want to settle down with some guy. She prolly wants to have some fun invite her to a party or something. Stop telling her u like her orthat u think shes cute to her friends. U dug urself deep into a friend zone but u can still get out, and don't seem desperate to get her to do something with u. Make it look like another girl is trying to get u. make her jealous =)
 

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Thing is I'm in college hours away but I come home some weekends.

So I primarily text her or occasionally talk on the phone for a little.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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venser

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uhm im gonna say stay away. shes jailbait if she was a freshman when you were a senior. and i dont even think thats allowed under manlaw.

your age/2 +7 = her minimum allowed age.
 

venser

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what about girls at college? im positive theres gotta be some hotties at your college who are not only legal to screw but also not a bunch of miles away back home.
 

notdonjuan

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If your willing to risk losing her as a friend then make a move. But wiegh that out it sounded like you two are really good friends. Dont just tell her you like her...show her by kissing her.
 
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