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The Downside of Dating Older Women

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So for about two and a half months before I met the woman I'm currently seeing (as mentioned in one of my most recent threads), I had a casual dating relationship or fling with a 43 year old woman with three children. That relationship is now officially over and I learned a lot of additional things pertaining to dating older women, particularly those with children:


-Not all single moms particularly in their 40s are necessarily willing to accept that your relationship with them is strictly for fun, casual dating. At some point in time they would tell you they want to bring you closer to their children so that they may get used to you. They would also want to know your family members-siblings, etc. and strive to bring your relationship with them out in the open.



-This particular woman I was seeing had a tendency to regularly send me text messages asking me for instance what I was doing, where I was, etc., at any given moment and that started to make me feel very uncomfortable. She had the strangely negative habit of storing in her cell phone, every text message that I wrote and sent to her to the point where her cell phone msg inbox was so filled up and inundated that she wasn't able to receive additional messages for quite some time. We both had a heated argument over why she kept on choosing to keep every single msg I had sent to her, even though she used to claim to love reading them over and over. I told her I was very uncomfortable about that and it was quite an arduous task to get her to delete all of them.



-The woman was always suspicious, probably feeling threatened or worried that perhaps a younger woman could take her place. Aside from frequently asking me where I was and what I was doing, she had a tendency to stir up trouble and accusations where it wasn't necessary, often suspecting I was hiding something from her, complicating things for no reason and accusing me of things I hadn't done.



It was from the moment about a week and a half ago when I was left with no choice but to cancel our date (I felt I was coming down with malaria) that things officially started to go downhill. As usual, she simply thought I was merely coming up with excuses because there was something I wasn't telling her and I got tired. Since the last disagreement we had, we've both just decided to be quiet and go our separate ways. And the truth too is that when I did meet the younger woman I referred to in one of my most recent posts, I seemed to have naturally lost interest in her and she seemed to sense something had changed.
 

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What the hell is wrong with you guy? You are like 3 years older than me.... not only dating a single mom, but dating a cougar mom! Where is the smiley vomit icon Ops?

My god!!!! Please men, save your money and jump over to Thailand or Japan... Japan for christsakes needs your help to liberate their women from the fortress of solitude!

Why waste your time on garbage.... agh, sosuave is filled with so much sh1t.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
What the hell is wrong with you guy? You are like 3 years older than me.... not only dating a single mom, but dating a cougar mom! Where is the smiley vomit icon Ops?

My god!!!! Please men, save your money and jump over to Thailand or Japan... Japan for christsakes needs your help to liberate their women from the fortress of solitude!

Why waste your time on garbage.... agh, sosuave is filled with so much sh1t.
When I read the thread title, I thought he was going to talk about wrinkles, cellulite, saggy t!ts, stretch marks, flabby skin...Who in their right mind would want to date an old chick (except for a man who is even older?) A 30-something year old guy dating a 40-something year old single mom just screams loser.
 

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Frank2500 said:
So for about two and a half months before I met the woman I'm currently seeing (as mentioned in one of my most recent threads), I had a casual dating relationship or fling with a 43 year old woman with three children. That relationship is now officially over and I learned a lot of additional things pertaining to dating older women, particularly those with children:


-Not all single moms particularly in their 40s are necessarily willing to accept that your relationship with them is strictly for fun, casual dating. At some point in time they would tell you they want to bring you closer to their children so that they may get used to you. They would also want to know your family members-siblings, etc. and strive to bring your relationship with them out in the open.
As is the normal wont of women, especially single moms that would love more stability in their lives
Frank2500 said:
-This particular woman I was seeing had a tendency to regularly send me text messages asking me for instance what I was doing, where I was, etc., at any given moment and that started to make me feel very uncomfortable. She had the strangely negative habit of storing in her cell phone, every text message that I wrote and sent to her to the point where her cell phone msg inbox was so filled up and inundated that she wasn't able to receive additional messages for quite some time. We both had a heated argument over why she kept on choosing to keep every single msg I had sent to her, even though she used to claim to love reading them over and over. I told her I was very uncomfortable about that and it was quite an arduous task to get her to delete all of them.
Why does that matter? Heated argument? How about just teasing her about her stalker qualities
Frank2500 said:
-The woman was always suspicious, probably feeling threatened or worried that perhaps a younger woman could take her place. Aside from frequently asking me where I was and what I was doing, she had a tendency to stir up trouble and accusations where it wasn't necessary, often suspecting I was hiding something from her, complicating things for no reason and accusing me of things I hadn't done.
Sounds like you had higher value and it weighed on her
Frank2500 said:
It was from the moment about a week and a half ago when I was left with no choice but to cancel our date (I felt I was coming down with malaria) that things officially started to go downhill. As usual, she simply thought I was merely coming up with excuses because there was something I wasn't telling her and I got tired. Since the last disagreement we had, we've both just decided to be quiet and go our separate ways. And the truth too is that when I did meet the younger woman I referred to in one of my most recent posts, I seemed to have naturally lost interest in her and she seemed to sense something had changed.
 

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@Bokanovsky: I think your judgmental response to my post was very unfair and unnecessarily harsh. Please don't judge me. I have absolutely no trouble getting a woman. When I first met this woman I wasn't aware she was a single mom and though single moms aren't at all on the top of my list, this woman is quite hot/attractive in terms of her physical looks. I dated her just for dating sake during an interval period when I hadn't met any woman whom I felt strongly enough attracted to. I knew our relationship was temporary and that it was going to end once I met someone else. So once again, please don't judge me.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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LiveFreeX said:
What the hell is wrong with you guy? You are like 3 years older than me....

I'm a year older than you.
 

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samspade said:
Fellas!

Ever wonder what it's like to be a young hot woman with options? Ever wonder why they flake or don't respond right away?

What you've read above is what a 23-year-old good looking female would say about the average man with interest in her.

Take heed of this in your dealings with the young and attractive. Remember the desperate cougar with the busy fingers.
I'l take this one step further

it doesn't make the OP a bad person. in fact everyone in this thread will pat him on the back. This is why shaming young 20 something hot women with options hoping they will be bitter and old one day is pointless and stupid
 

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I think your judgmental response to my post was very unfair and unnecessarily harsh. Please don't judge me. I have absolutely no trouble getting a woman. When I first met this woman I wasn't aware she was a single mom and though single moms aren't at all on the top of my list, this woman is quite hot/attractive in terms of her physical looks. I dated her just for dating sake during an interval period when I hadn't met any woman whom I felt strongly enough attracted to. I knew our relationship was temporary and that it was going to end once I met someone else. So once again, please don't judge me.
This makes you an idiot. Some guys just keep putting their hands in the fire. Doesn't matter how hot a single mother is, she is a single mother for a VERY good reason. She is fvcked up. The number of new DJs on here who are so desperate for poon/attention from ANY woman is just staggering... don't you people have any goddamn standards?!? You know everytime you put your d1ck to a woman, a relationship is created right? You always have the chance of getting her pregnant and being stuck with a HUGE mistake for the rest of your life. If you wouldn't jump out of an airplane into a den of hungry lions while being covered in blood and meat then why would you date a single mom, it involves about the same amount of risk.

Please guys, use some discretion when selecting mates and then women wouldn't have this huge entitlement problem. Frank, its guys like you who perpetuate single mothers and their attitudes. You should be straight up with her and say "well you made some huge mistakes in your life and I don't want to be involved with that EVER, thanks, bye".

it doesn't make the OP a bad person.
No, it makes him a loser.

in fact everyone in this thread will pat him on the back.
Are you out of your vulcan mind?
BB: We all know you came from a single mother but do you have to show up in every thread that mentions them and white knight this sh1t up??? You didn't marry a single mother and if you did, there wouldn't be a single person on here that would give you props for anything you've accomplished.
 

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My first girlfriend after high school was married and 8 years older than me. But they were "separated".

I dated her and banged her in her little apartment she got. She was only the 2nd woman I ever banged. She taught me alot too.

Then she couldn't afford the apartment anymore and moved back in with her husband that she was seperated from. Supposedly it was platonic. I still believe it was platonic to this day. At the time, I thought separated meant "divorced". I kept dating her.

One time she invited me to her house to meet her husband. I am sh!tting you not. I agreed. I went in and shook his hand. The guy was ex military and they split because he banged chics in Hong Kong.

After I shook his hand we went up to her room and she blew me and we banged while he was right downstairs. Thinking back on it, I can't believe it. He could have come up there and killed me. He was a giant AFC.

Afterwards all she said about it was he told her "not to do that again". Needless to say I lost interest in the woman and started ignoring her and she moved on. I hate to admit this but this is the first chic I went AFC on and begged for her back. Shoot me. I hate thinking about it.

Moral of this story is older women can be hot. But she was only 28, still young and tight.
 

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Frank2500 said:
Not all single moms particularly in their 40s are necessarily willing to accept that your relationship with them is strictly for fun, casual dating.
They might pretend like they are okay with that, especially if they have been a single mother for a while as they will have learned that the idea of taking over daddy duties for her bastard children is every man's worst nightmare. Make no mistake though, every single-mother on the planet is looking for a replacement daddy for her kids. The classic line, "My kids don't need a dad, they already have one!" is a gigantic lie, they know it and you should too. Even if the kids do have a dad in their life, she would love nothing more than to show him up with the sucker she has managed to reel in.

I'd like to add that while my posts may seem like it, I don't hate single mothers. I have nothing against them in principle as human beings, I just realize that they make terrible ltr partners and not very good short term fling partners either, unless the man is well aware of the risks and takes every precaution to guard against becoming baby daddy number two (or three or four) or playing the White Knight. There are plenty of beta male providers out there willing to do just that, but this is sosuave, and suggesting anything other than the avoidance of single mothers would be a disservice to men everywhere.
 

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Dear Frank,
Firstly,I suffer from Swamp Fever too,a legacy from that Crazy Asian War...still gets me now and again after all these years...Sweating till you fill your Belly Button,middle of Summer and you need a pile of Blankets,under which you shiver...Bad News Mate,I find Quinine is still the best..Good luck with that one...
This unmarried Mummy,sounds soo insecure...make sure you still take out other Ladies,and for a few years yet,try and not bond with her,take care with Birth Control,and making comittments in front of witnesses...As dear old B squared shows,good can come out of it,but allow a few years to pass...Good Luck Mate!
 

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Not sure why you are dating single moms.

I mean to be fair, there are some decent women out there who got knocked up by a deadbeat that bounced. You could argue that they shouldn't have slept with a deadbeat in the first place, but that's beside the point.

Single moms aren't necessarily bad PEOPLE, they are just unsuitable for dating in my opinion. For a single man of pretty much any age, there are countless other options.
 

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Downside?

err.. none that I can see, apart from most naturally have kids, and those who don't are few.
 

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The woman was always suspicious, probably feeling threatened or worried that perhaps a younger woman could take her place. Aside from frequently asking me where I was and what I was doing, she had a tendency to stir up trouble and accusations where it wasn't necessary, often suspecting I was hiding something from her, complicating things for no reason and accusing me of things I hadn't done.
Red flag number 1 - run dude, its called projection, ie she is hiding something from you. If she accuses you of flirting with younger guys, she is probably fvcking other guys
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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HalfAddict said:
I have one question pertaining to the title of this thread.


Whats the upside of dating older single mothers?
The upside to dating them is to marry her daughter when she turns 18.
 

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HalfAddict said:
I have one question pertaining to the title of this thread.


Whats the upside of dating older single mothers?
The mother-daughter threesome, of course
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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