"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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JohnnyStrabler

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Lexington said:
The don't open doors or pull chairs should be removed. These actions can be quite gentlemanly and very effective if you maintain the right frame.
I know a lot of gentlemen who are lonely, but hey! If you can pull it off, good for you.

Funny thing though is, they probably wouldnt even notice that you did/did not pull out their chair or open their door. Times are a changing.

also

42. Call a woman out on her BS/lie. It shall achieve nothing and will be a complete waste of your time and energy that could be invested in you getting laid faster/efficiently, however know who you are dealing with.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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37 made me lol yeah definitely dont do that! I am saving this for future reference
 

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While I am aware one should not be some soppy, pushover nice guy; I don't think there is anything wrong with opening the door for her (do agree pulling the chair is a bit much though lol) and picking up the tab on the first date if it went well and was worth your time. You don't want to be a "nice guy" nor do you wan to be an *******, finding that balance of being the alpha is where it is at.
 

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shizz702 said:
While I am aware one should not be some soppy, pushover nice guy; I don't think there is anything wrong with opening the door for her (do agree pulling the chair is a bit much though lol) and picking up the tab on the first date if it went well and was worth your time. You don't want to be a "nice guy" nor do you wan to be an *******, finding that balance of being the alpha is where it is at.
If you can, that is.

Most women nowadays dont even notice/appreciate you doing that anyway. I saw a professor of mine (fairly young, around 26-27) and she was walking out the door with another dude in front of her. He then (being raised that way) opened the door for her and she refused to do so insisting he goes first. But then she is a ball-busting lawyer, and most likely a feminist so yeah....

To me, being an @sshole is like catnip to women. But I am sure a lot of you are not @ssholes and would not do something out of your nature just so you can bang a 10. But hey, everyone has preferences.
 

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I dated a girl who actually yelled at me for getting the car door for her! I always get the car door for ladies. If they don't like it, they not a lady but some type of evil creature.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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bigneil said:
Johnny I dated a girl who actually yelled at me for getting the car door for her! I always get the car door for ladies. If they don't like it, they are the wrong woman (and not a lady but some type of evil creature).

See? Bigneil here dont like those types.

Hell, I'd still hit it.


But yeah dude...I would have just said "hey, if you dont like what I do, you are free to leave" Or at least slammed the car door to her face while she is yelling (if she is still inside) while yelling "ok then" back, with a ****y smirk on my face

Which reminds me

43. Be afraid to walk away OR suggest that she leaves
44. Be jealous


You see, women are only helpless when we are in court asking who should have child custody. Suddenly, they need money and their kids.
 
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