Drdeee
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Guys, I noticed women give us the don't approach me look, most women anyway. Why they do it? Does this change if I change? I mean if I get more muscle, drop fat, dress better, walk with confidence.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
The 'don't approach me look'
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I had to learn to become more sexual. It has worked for me. I rub myself throughout the day. Keeps the sexual energy alive. I never use soap on my genitals either. No underwear for me. Human scent is important. If I release myself during the day I don't clean up. I just zip up and let the odor cook up in my pants.
^^^^DropZone3 said:
THIS
I had a walk with a friend from work thats not even that cute nor able to talk about anything more than a 10yrs old girl would,however her cellphone was getting calls and sms from different guys every 10 minutes.
Wonder what happen to the good looking ones.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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Cell phones and SMS is still not approaching.Strelok said:
I see that women react differently with different guys. There are countless times I remember that a cashier may just carry on about the business at hand with me. But, for the next guy she's opening up to him like it is surreal.
The OP's experience is probably the same. He knows these same women will react differently and are being selective as to whom they want to be approached by and that vibes right off. It's a sucky uphill battle to approach someone who doesn't want you (i.e. non-verbal rejectoin) and it's a painful and humiliating exercise.
Unless it's a business excuse, or something important, you can't get into a fun or friendly state with them.
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use a negative as positive. go up to her and say :"hey I noticed you look like you are having a bad day, let me make it better by buying you a cup of coffee, etc"
that right there, evens the playing field instantly. In 2 senctences you have 1. acknowledge that she looks like a **** and that you notice that she is trying to ward you off with her look, 2. bypassed that like a real man should and 3. becuase you have stated the unspoken rule, that you aren't supposed to call me out on that type o stuff, she is defenseless. what is she going to say lol, i was looking at you like that so you wouldn't approach me. the day a woman has the balls to say that I will give up lol. it won't happen. she will make up some BS excuse but the ***** shield would be taken down.
you have to look at approaching women from an offensive standpoint instead of a defensive standpoint. too many guys cherry pick women that look all too easy, and are to reaction based in their approached. Take what the defense gives you when it comes to approaching. Attack the woman (not physically lol), put her on the defensive. Instead of thinking wow should I approach her, you should be thinking "dman that's an IN right there, she is giving me something to work with"
Every approach while different, is the same. The first thing you have to do, is establish frame, and do so quickly. Within a few seconds, you have to establish that you are on the offensive and she is on the defensive. You can't get a woman while playing defense which is what too many guys do "hey, i'm presenting myself, please don't reject me, please, pretty please, you are cute, oh.. yeah i know i'm not supposed to be talking to you please forgive me, okay i'm leaving now lol". When I do/did approach women, I generally just got to the ****ing point and worked from there. My fiancee and I had been eye ****ing each other for like a week before I approached her, so I said look, I have seen you looking at me and I have been looking at you, let's cut the **** and do lunch, give me your number. Then you just work off that. You see a girl, think of what you want the outcome to be (within reason lol), and go with that. Be as direct as you possibly can. "hey, I want you to give me your phone nmber and I'm going to take you out tomorrow night". Bam, direct, to the point, there is no beating around the bush with what you want, that type of behavior nips friend zone in hte ass instantly. She either is or she isn't., MOre than likely she will be taken back by your bluntness and you an work from there, but the frame of the conversation is established. You aren't like most guys who come and flirt and beat around the bush with what they want when it's all so ovbious. She most likely will say something like "I just met you! or "i don't know your name!" or "wow that's blunt are you always like that" (when i see something I want yes, and I want you while looking directly into her eyes is the correct answer here
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What I have also found, it's the equivalent to a trick play in football. You don't give the defense time to prepare for it. All guys are all too ovbious, going to the cashier like 5 times and talking about BS and the girl is like "okay, the guy is going to ask me out sooner or later, how can i reject himm..yes i'm going to go with the I have a boyfriend route yes that's a good option"... but when you are that blunt, that quick, she doesn't know what hit them, they will say the first thing that comes to mind. if a woman tells me she has a BF in that instance, she usually does and she likes him becuase that was instinctive. I don't press at that point.
that right there, evens the playing field instantly. In 2 senctences you have 1. acknowledge that she looks like a **** and that you notice that she is trying to ward you off with her look, 2. bypassed that like a real man should and 3. becuase you have stated the unspoken rule, that you aren't supposed to call me out on that type o stuff, she is defenseless. what is she going to say lol, i was looking at you like that so you wouldn't approach me. the day a woman has the balls to say that I will give up lol. it won't happen. she will make up some BS excuse but the ***** shield would be taken down.
you have to look at approaching women from an offensive standpoint instead of a defensive standpoint. too many guys cherry pick women that look all too easy, and are to reaction based in their approached. Take what the defense gives you when it comes to approaching. Attack the woman (not physically lol), put her on the defensive. Instead of thinking wow should I approach her, you should be thinking "dman that's an IN right there, she is giving me something to work with"
Every approach while different, is the same. The first thing you have to do, is establish frame, and do so quickly. Within a few seconds, you have to establish that you are on the offensive and she is on the defensive. You can't get a woman while playing defense which is what too many guys do "hey, i'm presenting myself, please don't reject me, please, pretty please, you are cute, oh.. yeah i know i'm not supposed to be talking to you please forgive me, okay i'm leaving now lol". When I do/did approach women, I generally just got to the ****ing point and worked from there. My fiancee and I had been eye ****ing each other for like a week before I approached her, so I said look, I have seen you looking at me and I have been looking at you, let's cut the **** and do lunch, give me your number. Then you just work off that. You see a girl, think of what you want the outcome to be (within reason lol), and go with that. Be as direct as you possibly can. "hey, I want you to give me your phone nmber and I'm going to take you out tomorrow night". Bam, direct, to the point, there is no beating around the bush with what you want, that type of behavior nips friend zone in hte ass instantly. She either is or she isn't., MOre than likely she will be taken back by your bluntness and you an work from there, but the frame of the conversation is established. You aren't like most guys who come and flirt and beat around the bush with what they want when it's all so ovbious. She most likely will say something like "I just met you! or "i don't know your name!" or "wow that's blunt are you always like that" (when i see something I want yes, and I want you while looking directly into her eyes is the correct answer here
)What I have also found, it's the equivalent to a trick play in football. You don't give the defense time to prepare for it. All guys are all too ovbious, going to the cashier like 5 times and talking about BS and the girl is like "okay, the guy is going to ask me out sooner or later, how can i reject himm..yes i'm going to go with the I have a boyfriend route yes that's a good option"... but when you are that blunt, that quick, she doesn't know what hit them, they will say the first thing that comes to mind. if a woman tells me she has a BF in that instance, she usually does and she likes him becuase that was instinctive. I don't press at that point.
Let's Get Real
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I said something to a girl today at the gym as her friend was walking up. The friend gave me a dirty look and said "what?" You know...like the "I don't want to talk to you look." I felt like I got that all the time. I blew right passed it and started talking with her a little bit. She asked me if she could give me her number later on in the parking lot. It completely changed the way I thought about ALL my past approaches or looks. Maybe they actually think you're cute and want you to approach them but they're nervous, scared, or their first reaction is to look *****y. Remember, women like confidence and a guy that isn't going to succumb right away. If you blow past her looks it shows confidence and if you can fight off the initial resistance with teasing her and not letting it affect you, it's like when we see a pretty girl with nice breasts.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yea, this is what some guys refer to as "ploughing". Just keep talking to her until it "hooks" and ignore the negative feedback. It's hard when you start out with this, but you gotta force yourself to not walk away unless it's clear that they don't want you.
This is not when they tell you to leave them alone. This is when they're getting security, getting a can of pepperspray from their handbag, or kicking you in the balls.
Don't be a p*ssy. Plough through that sh*t.
This is not when they tell you to leave them alone. This is when they're getting security, getting a can of pepperspray from their handbag, or kicking you in the balls.
Don't be a p*ssy. Plough through that sh*t.
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Never got that look before, or at least I didn't pick up on it haha!