"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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The DJ Game Theory.

Grey Fox

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Alright the first things first: Game Theory. In a nut shell its used to develop strategies based probability, cost/benifit, deductive logic for games. An example of this would be Poker theory, and of course as the title suggests there is a game theory for DJing.

DJing is in all reality a non-zero game when played in the short term. A non-zero game is where you have at least two players though the outcome of the game in not an absolute win or loss. For example at a party a DJ makes a move on a girl, well for sake of arguement 1 of 4 things can happen: 1. He gets a number, 2. He gets a sex close, 3. He has fun but it goes no where, 4. He gets completely shut down.
Djing in the long term, however is a zero sum game. Meaing that either you win or lose. An example of this when a Dj is dealing with a girl on a more long term basis, either he will land her as a girlfriend and gets what he wants out of it, or they decide it goes nowhere and he gets nothing out of the LTR.(Long term relationship)

First step in playing this game is to understand how each player is going to play and see the game.

Your typical dude will see the pursuit of women and sex as a zero sum game. Either he wins and gets what he wants, or he loses and fails to make a sex close. Because he sees this as a strictly win/lose situation, he actions will be stronger and very direct, because he can only play to win completely, their is no second best senario, all he can do is lose.
Your typical woman, will see this game as a non-zero sum game. For them having sex is just one of the options, they can simply have a good time with their friends, flirt and make out, give out numbers, and of course not have sex and have a good time, or be bored. Now these are not all the things that can happen, nor does this represent the mindset of all women. But it is an example of how a woman would see this game between the sexes played. Because they play them game where there are more ways to win in varying degrees, their actions do not have to be strong or direct, in fact their actions can be fewer and far in between and still end up winning.

The First Law of Attraction: The easier it is to accquire something, the lower level of desire a person will have in accquiring it, because its so common and easy to get they feel as if they can have it any time. Conversely the when something or someone is harder to accquire and requires great effort to have, the more we desire it or them. Essentailly the grass is greener on the other side and you are the bull that wants to graze the hell out of it.

The Second Law of Attraction: If you take two steps forward, they will take two steps back. The harder you come onto a girl, the more likely their response will be to recoil at your advance with the same level of effort you put into coming onto them. Strong direct action is a polarizing energy like trying to put two magnets with the same charge near each other they will be pushed away by the polarity. Subtle action either direct or in direct has less of an effect and will not push away.

Okay we have these two rules that seem hard and fast. But what do they mean to DJ game theory.

Well in dealing with the first law of attraction, because guys play the zero sum game, the strict win/lose situation, women will seem much harder to have, because they seem so easily lost, and so hard won. Now for a woman, because they play a non-zero sum game, that allows them a winning outcome to varying degrees, guys seem easier to have and amongst other pleasures they appear easier to have, so the desire to have them isn't going to be the same as someone who is going after something that is harder to get.

From what we have learned so far, lets ask yourself who is more likely to come out the winner in this game. Obiviously its going to be the woman who has more options to play with, as opposed to the guy. The guy's actions reflect the zero sum game, they have to be strong because for him its win or lose, nothing else. Now we look back at the second rule of attraction, where strong action will be meet with an equally strong reaction. Most likely the woman will recoil, becuase this is what they have been taught to do, also coming on strong is a sign of desperation.

Knowing this we realize that play a strict win/lose game will in fact put us at a sevre disadvantage in the DJ game. As with any game we must first learn to play it before we can exploit it. In other words we have to level the playing field.

The first shift we make is going to be a fundamental one. You will no longer see things as black and white when you play the DJ game. There is no strict win/lose situation, instead there are varying degrees at which you win. In other words it doesn't have to be sex or nothing at all, you have other options just like the women do. Having more options does a few things, first it removes a lot of pressure, and a comfortable player is a better player. Second your actions do not have to be as direct or strong, instead they can be subtle like and not as forceful, which unlike your past strong come ons they will not polarize a woman to reject you. Instead chit-chat, "harmless" flirting, and generally laid back moves will go under her radar and will not trigger the lessons about men her mother taught her.

The second shift is, do your homework ahead of time. Get to know different types of girls, so you can have a general idea of how they play will play the DJ game when you initate it. Keep in mind what actions attract different girls and what actions send them running.

The third shift is to open up your options further by having more options, which is one of the oldest pieces of advice we have on this site. Do not focus on just one girl, talk to many the DJ game allows for multiple games to be played at once, and who's to say that one game won't produce a better reward than the others you play.

The fourth shift is to refine the way you play constantly, game players and strategies evolve and so must you.

Exploiting the game

Once we know how to play a game, we learn how to cut corners, cheat, and take advantage of certain aspects of the game and learn what moves force players to make strong moves.

Up to this point women have been winning the game when you come out to engage them and try to score. Why because they set the game up so that you came in playing at a disadvantage. So with that in mind you should try to turn the tables yourself. Make them play the zero sum game, either they win or lose you. Be the bigger, better, deal, and you will be the greener grass. The best way to do that is to improve your apperance, improve your view of yourself, improve your knowledge and taste. This makes you more valuable, also once a girl becomes attracted to you or seems to be moving in that direction she will start to pay more attention to you or do things to grab your attention. You can exploit this by making her put more effort into you in return for a little attention from you. Not to much to make you lose that mysterious quality, and not to little to make her think its not worth it. The kind of attention you want to pay her is in fact little but just enough to make her believe that she is always on the verge of getting more attention, but its going to take a little more effort on her part. Well player, play on, but play smarter.

-Grey Fox
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Grey Fox..it's been a while since I've read your posts...most refreshing.

I came to a similar realization last summer when sex was the ultimate 'win' senerio. Nothing came first above sex. If I got a number, dance-close, or kiss close - and sex didn't happen immediately..than the girl was 'Nexted'.

Through may trials, I come to realize that sex isn't the ultimate goal. The ultimate winning situation is different for all men. For me, I always want to widen my social network by meeting tons of women - w/o sex always being involved. Honestly, when I don't push for sex with a woman - I instantly become more desirable..thus, adding to your cause/effect - grass/greener discussion...

Every DJ on this site SHOULD define himself before continuing another second of why he is on this site....and I agree with the sly Fox on this one - He SHOULD take a second - maybe even once a month - to re-evaluate himself...
 

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Good post Fox, i absolutely understand what your trying to convey. I just like to put in my perspective.

- when a guy approaches a girl, he has a certain purpose in mind, that may be a #, kiss, good convo, sex...etc, and if he doesn't acheive that goal, he thinks of it as a failure. A win/lose situation like you've said.

- for a girl, when a guy approaches her, she also has a purpose in mind, she may want him to ask for her #, kiss, good convo, sex...etc, and if she feels that the guy doesn't meet her purpose, in essence she's dissapointed, you could say that she has failed. So, the woman too is in a win/lose situation, somewhat differ from you said that she has a winning outcome of varying degrees.

- When the guy & the girl's purpose do not comply, they both lose.

A critical point that i want to make is that eventhough you've specified the advantages of leveling the playing field to reach better results, you did not mention advantages of playing the win/lose strategy.

- Often times, djs, puas, or ssers, approach very aggressively with an outcome in mind, and they get great results. Your strategy is less aggressive, and takes longer, but it doesn't mean that the win/lose game will put us at a disadvantage.
 
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