"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The difference between "naturals" and you

Rubirosa

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The "inner loser"
I'm not a natural. I was on my way to being one, but then puberty kicked in at 12/13 and completely changed my looks. No joke.
Looks started coming back at around age 18....
Needless to say, high school was painful and lonely.
I started getting girls around 18, but I had serious one-itis and if you looked up the word "chump" in the dictionary, you would see my picture.
I got divorced in my early 30's.
At this point in my life, I consider it a slow week if I don't bang 3 different women.
These are not ugly hags....Some are so beautiful that I've seen guys run into sh#t because they were staring so hard at them instead of paying attention to where they were walking
Yes, I'm a pretty good looking guy with a good career and nice house/car/hobbies....bla bla blah.....
But I'm not a natural. My adolesence was corrupted by my feelings of being unattractive to women which manifested into poor communication skills/shyness..
This results in what I like to call the "inner loser"
No matter how successful you become with chicks, there seems to be that nagging inner voice that tries to drag you down and f*%k up your game with self doubt.
I feel that "naturals" simply don't have this inner voice because it did not get a chance to develop in their youth.
So what do you do if you have this inner voice ?
I read a story once about an athlete that was not as naturally gifted as others, but he had a secret weapon ;
"Pain is my friend, because I know that the other guy is feeling the same pain as I am, but I know that I can take it and he can't !"
In other words, he was not bigger/stronger/faster than the other guy, but he still won because he dug deep and found an advantage that gave him an edge over the other guys.......A mind that could handle more pain.
Your inner loser is simply an emotional reflex that sets an alarm in your brain when you set yourself up for an uncomfortable situation (approaching a chick for example).
Your mind remembers an emotional pain and sends a "be careful !" signal which then throws a monkey wrench into your body language/speech.
Why ? Because your emotions are afraid of pain. But what if you were not afraid of pain ? The "inner loser" would lose its power.
Remember the story of the athlete. Was he afraid of pain ? Hell no ! he embraced it.
I am not advocating masochism. Rather, I am telling you that your fear of rejection is not a fear of actually being rejected. It is a fear of the PAIN of being rejected.
Emotional pain is temporary in nature. If you approach it with this mindset, gradually you cease being scared of emotional pain.
So when you see a chick at the bar, your inner loser will sound the alarm, but then you have to tell it, "Even if I get rejected by this babe, there could be another one for me in 5 minutes, or 2 hours, or tomorrrow, or next week, or next month....the pain I get from rejection will be temporary because I will replace it...so go ahead, I'll use the rejection pain to my own advantage by fueling my optomism "
Like the unnatural athlete you learn to win by digging deep and finding your advantage. The natural STARTS the game with an advantage, but that doesn't mean he will beat you at the END....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Mike32ct

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Great post.

I know a guy who is a natural. He never cold approaches and rarely goes out. Women in his social circle just come to him.

I was at a party with him and his girlfriend du jour. They both saw me doing lots of approaches. Him and girlfriend told me that they couldn't believe the b@lls I have. His girlfriend told me she totally admires how I can just go out alone and meet people. She is a former cheerleader, which is like a natural in sense. She never had to work to meet men.

So yes, absolutely, a non-natural can develop a higher pain tolerance than a natural because the natural has had it too easy.
 

yuppaz

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speaking right to me. Thank you for the timely post
 

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I know that inner voice. It's so annoying. Ironically I heard that inner voice of inadequacy this weekend and I actually said to myself "are you freaking kidding me, wtf"
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Rubirosa

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Mike32ct said:
So yes, absolutely, a non-natural can develop a higher pain tolerance than a natural because the natural has had it too easy.
You put it more succinctly than I could....Yes, I agree
 

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This is a good thread for most of the people on this forum.

I wouldn't consider myself a "natural" but I've never had to cold approach a woman. In fact, I've had many women approach me instead (some were in my social group who wanted me others I never met or saw before).

I've never been completely rejected by a woman so I've never really heard the "inner voice" trying to mess with me but I can understand it. It's more just a voice telling you that you can't do it, I think if you learn to embrace this as a challenge, things become easier and once you have repeated success with women, it becomes even easier still and once you develop a confident, uncaring demeanor towards women, they flock to you.

In my current social circle, every single woman I'm friendly with has openly admitted to each other or to me that they would date me if I gave them the chance and that I'm an ideal man. I'm not currently looking for that level of commitment right now and they see me be carefree with women. I'm not carefree at all, I have all the worries and concerns most men have when approaching women, but I don't let it show and I don't act like that. That is the key.
 
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