The difference between Alpha and Beta FEMALES

[3agle 3yes]

I came here this morning disappointed at some of the members of this forum.

I'm not patronising anyone here, but at the age of 27 I've been around. And once you've been around you no longer care just about how a woman looks...you observe her BEHAVIOUR too.

Many guys on here are contradicting themselves and they don't even know it.

If they bothered to look, they would see they are confused by 2 types of women.

For example, threads like these:

http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=217518

and other countless complaints of the state of women today...from the "manosphere" and "MGTOW".

They don't seem to be able to see the difference between:

1. The Alpha female.

2. The Beta female.

Read the OP from this thread:

http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=217633

Now read the replies and notice the DIFFERENCE between everyone else's reply and MINE.

Even though I posted that I would f*ck her in the scenario, in reality I WOULDN'T.

Also, notice I'm the only one who said I would PUNISH her for slutty behaviour.

Too many men are REWARDING women for slutty behaviour.

If you can't cook, don't complain when your food tastes like sh*t when you eat it.

Men and women are DIFFERENT and they want DIFFERENT things from one another.

There is a GAME going on, and the goal of the game is to find the STRONG from the weak.

The role of the Alpha male is the f*ck as many attractive ALPHA women as possible.

The role of an alpha female is to KEEP an alpha male.

I'll repeat the last sentence again, to underline it's importance:

The role of the ALPHA FEMALE is to KEEP an ALPHA male.

Alpha females DON'T want any man, alpha males DON'T want any woman.

Because of this BOTH have developed skills in weeding out betas.

Alpha females are CUNNING because they KNOW how beta males behave and they want NOTHING to do with them.

That's why alpha women are PASSIVE.

Because they know beta males are passive too and if they aren't they are waiting for him to make a clumsy AFC mistake.

Alpha women hardly initiate ANYTHING.

Because they know betas don't initiate anything either and if they do they are waiting for him to make an AFC mistake.

It may be harsh, but it's human nature...EVERYONE wants the BEST.

ALPHA females "get it".

Beta FEMALES are different.

Beta females are sluts, and sluts aren't necessarily women who have f*cked a lot of guys...alpha females can f*ck a lot of men too....however, beta females will f*ck just about any male.

Beta females are CLUMSY and don't know how to KEEP an alpha male.

Beta females often view sex the SAME WAY men do, because they AREN'T feminine.

Beta females dress SLUTTY (does dressing slutty KEEP an alpha male?).

Beta females PRIMARILY initiate contact with men (does initiating contact with men KEEP an alpha male?).

Beta females are MORE FORGIVING of BETA BEHAVIOUR.

Beta females generally LEAD men into sex (does leading men into sex KEEP an alpha male?).

Beta women CHEAT MORE on their husbands and boyfriends on average.

But has anyone ever wondered why?

Unfortunately most men are pvssies, yet still beta women cheat with most men.

Here's why:

MOST men are too afraid to approach women, UNLESS they look "EASY".

Beta women dress SLUTTY....Check.

MOST men are too afraid to initiate and/or only flirt if women approach them first.

Beta women PRIMARILY INITIATE...Check.

Most men exhibit AFC behaviour.

Beta women are MORE FORGIVING of BETA BEHAVIOUR....Check.

Most men only initiate sex when it is OBVIOUSLY clear that the woman wants it.

Beta females LEAD men into sex....Check.

If it was "too easy" to f*ck her...then it will be "too easy" for OTHER MEN as well.

Beta females aka "sluts" are just as common as beta men.

Now that I've pointed it out, read the OP in the last link again.

So on the weekend she txt me to come out with her to town for drinks and such
and that she loves my company so i went...

Is this beta behaviour? It was okay IMO, it seemed like she was testing the waters...so it's okay.

However, it WAS okay until this.

...and she said i could stay at hers the night.

This is beta behaviour.

We walked to her place, proceeded to the bedroom got undressed down to underwear jumped in bed, then she said, "dont get a hard on though"

This is beta behaviour.

then we talked a while which evolved to cuddling and spooning which turned into me feeling her tits and ass so we fell asleep spooning and stuff and she was totally into it...

This is beta behaviour.

When a woman exhibits this kind of beta/slutty behaviour she must be PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY.

If you read the OP, he said the woman was IN a RELATIONSHIP.

Remember, women PUNISH beta men by denying them sex...we should DO THE SAME.

For most men it's UNTHINKABLE to deny a woman sex and they'll probably think it's stupid too...however, it's one of the smartest things a man can do.

You can still f*ck her though, as long as she is PUNISHED first.

Read my reply in that thread and you will know how to punish sluts.

If ALL men did this more beta women will change their ways.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

hmmm this actually makes sense. i have never thought of it this way

 

[Skyline]

You have this opposite. Its considered a "masculine" female and a "feminine" female. You do not want, or at least I don't, a female in her masculine. Mainly because its caused by YOU not being in YOUR masculine. Every person has a masculine and feminine side. Some more so than others and its usually decided based on your childhood. However that being said it still doesn't mean its not inside of us, this can be triggered by relationships as well. If a man is acting more feminine than masculine in a relationship, then a woman will pick up on this and begin shifting toward a more masculine role. Most women do not like this role as it is out of their nature. This is where pointless arguing, possibly cheating, disrespect, and "we need time apart" comes from. Its code for "be in your masculine so I don't have to." When she's in her feminine, she will be more passive, submissive and overall more "womanly."

As men its our job to stay in our masculine side. Doing so will prompt women to stay or reposition them back into their feminine. However some cases can be extreme to the point where its hard to reverse it. If a male had a female dominant household he'll most likely be in his feminine a lot more often. Same with females and vice versa. I would stay away from these people.

In your example you basically made a kind of complex new criteria in this sense. Just think masculine and feminine sides. If he or she was in x side, would they be doing x?

 

[sylvester the cat]

Hmmm. My local prissy librarian must be alpha as fvck if her passivity is anything to go by.

You know as long as generalisations such as op's continue to be made in an effort to encompass all into neat boxes you will live in a constant world of confusion as people prove the exception to the rule. As they will every time.

 

[VladPatton]

Completely wrong.

 

[IBreatheSpears]

This is fine if you're into caring about the bigger picture, but that's not my way. I have goals -- sex, intimacy, etc. -- and will take the path that achieves those goals in the best way (not necessarily the path of least resistance, mind) without thought to the waves I make in the process. It's not wrong, it's just a different way. I know my way is selfish and short-sighted, but realistically I only have a few years of fun left and I want to make the most of it.

 

[SeymourCake]

Wow, all the women around me must be alpha because they don't ever approach me.

 

[Don-Kong]

Alpha beta stuff is bollocks

 

[Merciless Dj]

You have this opposite. Its considered a "masculine" female and a "feminine" female. You do not want, or at least I don't, a female in her masculine. Mainly because its caused by YOU not being in YOUR masculine. Every person has a masculine and feminine side. Some more so than others and its usually decided based on your childhood. However that being said it still doesn't mean its not inside of us, this can be triggered by relationships as well. If a man is acting more feminine than masculine in a relationship, then a woman will pick up on this and begin shifting toward a more masculine role. Most women do not like this role as it is out of their nature. This is where pointless arguing, possibly cheating, disrespect, and "we need time apart" comes from. Its code for "be in your masculine so I don't have to." When she's in her feminine, she will be more passive, submissive and overall more "womanly."

As men its our job to stay in our masculine side. Doing so will prompt women to stay or reposition them back into their feminine. However some cases can be extreme to the point where its hard to reverse it. If a male had a female dominant household he'll most likely be in his feminine a lot more often. Same with females and vice versa. I would stay away from these people.

In your example you basically made a kind of complex new criteria in this sense. Just think masculine and feminine sides. If he or she was in x side, would they be doing x?

I didn´t expect reading people here writing that everyone has a feminine and a masculine side. It´s not inherent to us, it´s just induced by our environment (the matrix). Hetero men are born masculine and hetero women are born feminine the same way that fish are born with gills.
Although, I agree that this feminine side is induced since childhood.
Identity is malleable and it keeps that way, it doesn´t become inherent to us.

 

[logicallefty]

My experience with women is they will "act" as alpha/dominant/tough as you allow them to. And when you resist them and call them out on this smoke screen in a strong and confident manor, they go from being "alpha queen of the world with an enflated head" to "beta b!tch curled up in a fetal position literally balling her wittle eyes out". It's funny too because after they have had their little emotional breakdown that you caused them.. they go right back to behaving the same way, maybe not with you again but with other people... I made my sociopath female boss slam her door and go in her office and cry a few weeks ago. She has actually not fvcked with me sense then, but she is picking on some others now.

 

[Skyline]

I didn´t expect reading people here writing that everyone has a feminine and a masculine side. It´s not inherent to us, it´s just induced by our environment (the matrix). Hetero men are born masculine and hetero women are born feminine the same way that fish are born with gills.
Although, I agree that this feminine side is induced since childhood.
Identity is malleable and it keeps that way, it doesn´t become inherent to us.

Of course its not permanent. If it were, almost everyone on this forum would be stuck in their feminine. The feminine side for guys is the classic AFC guy, the guy acting weak and needy. Traits of basically a female. A masculine side is a more dominant-assertive role. Which are traits of a man. Everyone is capable of both sides but some people are more so on one side than the other.

When a person isn't in their right role by nature, it causes problems. Women b*tch more and men complain about women more etc.

 

[goldengoose]

Hmmm. My local prissy librarian must be alpha as fvck if her passivity is anything to go by.

You know as long as generalisations such as op's continue to be made in an effort to encompass all into neat boxes you will live in a constant world of confusion as people prove the exception to the rule. As they will every time.

HAHAHA

Most of dating is just common sense. Being able to control your frame and not puting up with bvllsh1t. Your looks, income, and your confidence plays the biggest part of your success.

All this other stuff is overthinking and generalization which will make you and others more confused. The less complicated you make things the better.

 

[3agle 3yes]

I'm not surprised by the reaction of some of you.

Some people aren't ready to hear this yet.

I'm not going to lie, the original post is just a guideline.

Of course the world is a lot more complex than this, there are VARIATIONS of "alpha" and "beta"...even "omega", a lot of women portray traits of alpha but overall they aren't. The terms "Alpha", "Beta", "omega" are just names to describe a person's awareness.

Not all women are EQUAL. Not all men are EQUAL.

"Alpha's" are SUBTLE. "Betas" are OBVIOUS.

Most women (in my experience), when they do approach will do so low key (this ISN'T beta)...they do this because they're waiting for your response.

I'm considered attractive to quite a lot of women, and when I was younger women would do this to me often. However, back then I was "slow" and I would respond to them in a NORMAL way. After a while, they would stop talking and WALK AWAY.

I didn't know how to flirt...I was OBVIOUS.

What is flirting? Flirting is when you screen someone...alpha's screen people betas DO NOT...it's very SUBTLE.

A quick google search for "Flirt" give you this definition:

Flirt
1. behave as though sexually attracted to someone, but playfully rather than with serious intentions.

Why would someone do this? Because they SCREENING each other. Mostly to see if you're worth their time or not.

Hmmm. My local prissy librarian must be alpha as fvck if her passivity is anything to go by.

Wow, all the women around me must be alpha because they don't ever approach me.

Why try to play clever? That is just ONE of the criteria...besides being passive and not approaching means nothing if it's OUT OF CONTEXT or if that person DOESN'T know what they are doing.

Most of dating is just common sense. Being able to control your frame and not puting up with bvllsh1t. Your looks, income, and your confidence plays the biggest part of your success.

I'm past the stage where I just want pvssy for the sake of pvssy...I actually want to meet DECENT women...like all good things, there aren't too many around.

It all comes down to sex.

What is sex?

I'm willing to bet EVERYONE who disagrees with me here doesn't even know what sex even is.

Tell me, what is sex?

I bet almost everyone will give the WRONG answer.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

lot of unnecessary hate here, OP wrote some really useful stuff, don't see the reason on being stuck at the alpha beta terminology. he used that, deal with it.
read, filter, and understand.
i never thought about it this way, but after reading it, i realized it is similar to my findings also. the quality women remind me of the "alpha" ones described in this thread.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Thanks Crimson, I apologise if I'm coming across obnoxious or as arrogant.

I'm just standing up for what I believe in.

But sex is not ONLY the act of PHYSICAL penetration...once you see that, what I posted above will make more sense.

I honestly do think a lot of men in our generation grow up thinking what they see in porn is sex...it is NOT.

The best description of sex IMO is the term "sexual intercourse".

The definition of "sexual intercourse" in the dictionary is only a partial definition.

To understand it FULLY, you have to look at the definition of both words SEPARATELY.

Sex·u·al

1. Of, relating to, involving, or characteristic of sex, sexuality, the sexes, or the sex organs and their functions.
2. Implying or symbolizing erotic desires or activity.

In·ter·course
1. Dealings or communications between persons or groups.

"Sex", or "sexual intercourse" in it's COMPLETE form is SEXUAL COMMUNICATION.

It is the FUSION of masculine energy and feminine energy.

This fusion can ONLY happen with the combination of three forces.

Masculine energy (the active force), feminine energy (the passive force) and attractive energy (the neutral force).

The ENTIRE Universe is made up of these three forces.

Anyone who is interested read this link: http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=769&lsel=T

Sex is EVERYTHING that happens in the attraction process.

When you approach a woman you're physically attracted to....sex is happening.

When you talk to her...sex is happening.

etc, etc all the way to the bedroom.

Physical sex is the LEAST important part of sex, it is the "icing on the cake", it is the "pay off" for everything that has gone on before.

To have POWERFUL sex, there must be SEXUAL TENSION.

If I'm with a woman and she is TOO interested in me, I always push her back in a teasing way. This is where the "push/pull" PUA terminology comes in.

"Alpha Females" know how this works and they are not usually too eager, but if the woman you're with is, teasingly push her away and bait her.

If she isn't too eager or interested ASSUME she is and TEASE her about it...even if she is NOT interested.

Because if you are an "alpha male" she WILL eventually find out and when she does she WILL be interested.

This is the same as "screening", "flirting" and "teasing".

They are all essentially the same thing.

If you do this well, the sex will almost ALWAYS be good REGARDLESS of what you do.

 

[Zarky]

at the age of 27 I've been around.

Read my reply in that thread and you will know how to punish sluts.

If ALL men did this more beta women will change their ways.

eh??? Who in his right mind would want sluts to stop slutting?

Hmm.. let's make it harder for ourselves to get laid! Great idea!

 

[3agle 3yes]

in this context, this is subjective and highly dependent on how people view sexual prospects and sexual competitors.

No it isn't, most people refuse to let go of their ego.

And most people have no self-control.

The ability to delay instant gratification is the way of the alpha.

Like attracts like.

idk, im pretty sure i can spot an alpha or beta male quite easily.

I already posted that life is complex...and roles are constantly changing in post number 14. However, betas predominately behave beta.

The best way to see it is by what I posted earlier:

"Alpha's" are SUBTLE. "Betas" are OBVIOUS.

Betas are obvious because they are OVERCOMPENSATING.

From here.

o·ver·com·pen·sate

2. to exhibit psychological overcompensation; strive to overcome a sense of inferiority through overt, opposite behavior.

This happens through presentation and action.

For example, a beta female will wear clothes that show too much flesh (i.e. "slutty").

To put simply she is TOO sexual TOO early.

She wants to show people she's sexually confident, but it is too OVERT...because she's trying to compensate for her lack of femininity.

An example for a beta male would be working out so much that they look like a cartoon character (i.e. too big).

He wants to show people he's strong, but it is too OVERT...because he's trying to compensate for his lack of masculinity.

Again, like the beta female the beta male is also TOO forward TOO early in their intentions with a prospect...some people think this is "alpha" but it is OVERCOMPENSATION.

An alpha wants to know who they are dealing with (the prospect) FIRST.

...as far as women go, you can say a hot bltch is alpha as fuk based on her looks (regardless of how many men she's slept with) or you can say a loyal girl is alpha because of her virtue.

No, how a woman looks ISN'T enough, how she behaves says a lot more.

An alpha female isn't loyal because of her virtue, she's loyal because she has high standards.

On average, an alpha female will have a LOWER sexual partner count than the average woman...because she is ONLY attracted to alpha males and there are very few around.

For the alpha male, they are different because it doesn't matter too much, HOWEVER they ONLY COMMIT to the alpha female.

Remember, PROPER contraception is relatively NEW (LESSER forms of contraception have been around for thousands of years).

Women have always been MORE cautious than men about who they got f*cked by, because they paid the GREATER price.

either way, alpha is a very bad term to use for women. youre just gonna confuse everyone.

Good, those who are confused aren't supposed to understand this.

The words "Alpha" and "Beta" are just words, words used to describe the intensity of a man or woman's alignment with the masculine/feminine (the tao).

It's not only restricted to men...this is obvious if you use common sense, unfortunately few people like to use it.

 

[3agle 3yes]

1. once again you are projecting your own standards of "quality" onto women. in this case, by the virtue of loyalty. in other words you are thinking "i highly value loyal women therefore an alpha surely is also one who can control his more primal impulses". thats all this is, nothing more.

that is the reason i say it is SUBJECTIVE because your standards for quality may not be the same as someone elses.

So the ability to remain loyal and not cheat with another man is NOT a quality that a man looks for when having a LTR with a woman?

Read your quote above...this time out loud.

Let me spell it out for you.

The primary goal for ALL living organisms is to SURVIVE.

Unfortunately we must all die, so the next best thing is to survive in our offspring.

To produce offspring we must copulate with the opposite sex.

To ensure the SURVIVAL of our offspring we must copulate with the best genes.

Women NEED men to PROTECT herself and her offspring and also help RAISE the offspring. He needs to be strong on ALL levels.

The alpha male is superior at protecting and raising, not because he is physically stronger but PSYCHOLOGICALLY stronger (and perhaps spiritually as well).

A man needs a woman with good genes (good genes=attractive) and to NURTURE his offspring and he needs the woman to bare HIS children NOT someone else's.

ONLY one sex needs the good genes.

The alpha female is superior at nurturing children and staying loyal (not baring someone else's children) not because she is the most attractive but because she is PSYCHOLOGICALLY stronger (and perhaps spiritually stronger as well).

The HARDER it is to f*ck the woman the the LESS likely she will have a baby with ANOTHER man.

Because the tendency of humans (men in this case) is to follow the path of LEAST RESISTANCE.

...the same goes when a man or woman is dealing with a superior sexual competitor. the default social convention is attack their integrity. in mens cases its "hes a fag" or "what a douche" in womens its "what a slut". capiche?

What people say and the REALITY are two DIFFERENT things.

EVERYONE knows what a faggot or a slut ACTUALLY means. There are NO OPINIONS on either words.

2. wrong. women do this because they were inherently made to seduce men. its part of their biology. all women seek male attention. it merely varies by degrees. some girls play up the free spirited neo hippie card and others play up the good girl card. different strategies that ultimately meet the same end with a plethora of different archetypes in the middle ground.

That's like saying it's okay for a man to tell a woman how sexy she is and explain what he wants to do to her, constantly buy her gifts, and phone/text her all the time...it might work initially (though VERY rarely), but in the long term it will lead to problems.

While it is true that there is no such thing as a "right way" or a "wrong way" there is ALWAYS a BETTER way.

Seduction is merely the FEMININE version of charm.

An alpha female DOES show flesh but NOT too much....as to not attract the WRONG attention.

3. the point i am making is that alpha/beta is an abstract concept that can mean different things under different circumstances.

Every claim I made I gave an example....where's yours?

...what you dont realize is that having a preconceived idealization of women is AFC AS FUKC. do you know why? because the reason most guys catgeorize women based on their shiltty or good behavior is because in reality they never had a shot with those types of women.

You said it YOURSELF...."most guys"...NOT "all guys".

If you bothered to read my posts carefully, you would've realised I said F*CK SLUTTY GIRLS just PUNISH them FIRST and DON'T COMMIT to them.

this whole "im screening women for quality" nonsense is just bullshlt. whats really going on here is that youre going to focus on the girls who give you the most/best play. therefore ANY girl that ultimately commit to YOU will be "alpha" in your mind by default. the real reason you are trapped in this black or white, alpha/beta mode of thinking is because YOU HAVE NO CONTROL over womens actions/behavior. the easiest way for the mind to save the ego is to discount these out of reach prospects as ""low quality". thats why its a limiting and dangerous mentality to have. but i cant blame you. most AFCS are self righteous as FUKC.

Are you an idiot?

Aren't women in general more selective than men?

If they weren't nobody would be in this forum.

But why are they selective?

They have MORE OPTIONS.

I don't mean to brag, but I can f*ck just about any woman I want.

The ONLY obstructions I have are time and morals.

Read post 16.

if guys go out looking like mystery and can get laid, it means women are far stupider than you can imagine.

The one thing I've realised with you and many others that have posted here is that you see all women as the same. You simply can't COMPREHEND that some women are just not good enough for you...REGARDLESS of whether they are "hot".

A woman being just "hot" gets old after a while, if you have been around enough.

The things they do IRRITATE me to a degree that I DON'T CARE how hot they are, I need MORE.

That's the problem with so many men, they need sex at all costs...because sex for them is scarce.

Attractive women REJECT most betas, because they can do better....I don't know about you, but so do I.

 

[3agle 3yes]

That's the typical response I was expecting (why don't "neg rep" me too), it came earlier than I thought but I knew it was coming, bye.

 

[goldengoose]

Most of dating is just common sense. Being able to control your frame and not puting up with bvllsh1t. Your looks, income, and your confidence plays the biggest part of your success.

I'm past the stage where I just want pvssy for the sake of pvssy...I actually want to meet DECENT women...like all good things, there aren't too many around.

It seems to me that you should be agreeing with what I said. How could you not?

The purpose of dating is to get pvssy for the sake of pvssy until you find someone decent. that is called lookling around, playing the field, the process of elimination.

You fvck the chicks that you want, then you find a decent chick and fvck her too. What's the problem?

If you don't use common sense in dating you are going to screw up and get fvcked over. Most of it is easy to recognize when you're dating smart.

If you don't have a strong frame and can't handle a woman you're going to get walked over by all of them. The decent chick will lose respect for you as well.

Your looks, income, and your confidence allows you to have a larger dating pool where you have a better chance of getting a decent chick. If you have nothing going for you, have less good looks, no confidence, your dating pool shrinks to nothing where you will have slim pickings.

All of that will determine how successful or unsuccessful you will be.

This overthinking of what girl is a beta or alpha doesn't mean anything if YOU don't have the means or the frame to control your own being.

How can you not agree with that?