The day he learned his real value to her

[backbreaker]

OK now ur just trolling

 

[ChrisFloyd]

OK now ur just trolling

Whatever.

Just want to say:

-People are different in values and standards. Looking down on others only harms you, especially when they can have the same success as you do without having to tick all your requirement boxes.

-Whiny and crying men are unacceptable in any situation, and there is nothing wrong or unjust when women spit on that.

Happy New Year to you and your family.

 

[ChrisFloyd]

Chris,

So by your stance on how men and women should act and be treated, I take it you do not believe in the current modern gender neutral world being dictated by law and practice?

Law and practice are law and practice, I neither believe or do not believe in them. They are there for their own reasons, and I won't assume I know any better to change it or not.

However, I believe that gender dynamics, or social dynamics in general, regardless of law and practice, have always been there since the beginning. They do not favor male or female. And I believe that everyone knows it, but whether they choose to accept it or not is their choice.

 

[ChrisFloyd]

So you would have your expectations of men, but do not care for law, practice or society's expectations of men.

Life does not give two $hits about your expectations, although feminists would applaud your efforts here at denigrating men.

While I agree with your statements about gender roles, they do not exist in a vacuum. Your statements are just another example of men only holding men to standards and not women, society or Governments. In short, your viewpoint is part of the problem with the west today.

“If you haven’t the strength to impose your own terms upon life, then you must accept the terms it offers you.” - T.S. Eliot

 

[jc_80]

Whatever.

Just want to say:

-People are different in values and standards. Looking down on others only harms you, especially when they can have the same success as you do without having to tick all your requirement boxes.

-Whiny and crying men are unacceptable in any situation, and there is nothing wrong or unjust when women spit on that.

Happy New Year to you and your family.

It depends on how you define 'whiney and crying'. If a man incessantly whines and actually cries over trivial things, wah wah sniffle sniffle, then of course thats unattractive. I find it demoralizing to be around anybody with this trait, man or woman. But men are only human. We're going to have some bad days and hardships. A man should be able to confide in a friend or his girlfriend or wife about it.
Also, I didn't read anything Backbreaker wrote that described his friend as being a whiney little b!tch. Seems like this thread got a little twisted with the assumption he was whining and not just turning to a friend so he could talk to someone. When she used the word burden, that spoke more about her true nature, that she's selfish. This woman is so selfish that she thinks it's ok to dump her problems on someone and not be considered a burden and she can't see the hypocrisy of her calling someone else a burden for not being Mr AlwaysPositive.

 

[sharkbeat]

There are times even strong men fall too. All these strong/weak discussion talk as if you are born in either side and can't cross boundaries. There are people like movie stars, who have achieved their fame and glory, fall out of earth's existence just like that. Nobody gives a ****. Until they die then it becomes news, then people pouring their 'love', 'hearts', and 'thoughts'. Gee, how many **** did MJ have to deal with when he was alive? After he died, people suddenly making tributes to him? Why didn't they do it before, make him feel a bit more appreciated when he was alive?

Weak men can become strong, likewise, strong men can become weak. You will swing back and forth in your life. Guaranteed.

This is one reason why marriage is such a bad idea for men. Once you fall, your wife out of her nature will despise you. She will of course console you, 'help' you get back up, but her nature has made you unattractive to her. You stay in the weak zone for far too long, she will divorce you.

 

[backbreaker]

It depends on how you define 'whiney and crying'. If a man incessantly whines and actually cries over trivial things, wah wah sniffle sniffle, then of course thats unattractive. I find it demoralizing to be around anybody with this trait, man or woman. But men are only human. We're going to have some bad days and hardships. A man should be able to confide in a friend or his girlfriend or wife about it.
Also, I didn't read anything Backbreaker wrote that described his friend as being a whiney little b!tch. Seems like this thread got a little twisted with the assumption he was whining and not just turning to a friend so he could talk to someone. When she used the word burden, that spoke more about her true nature, that she's selfish. This woman is so selfish that she thinks it's ok to dump her problems on someone and not be considered a burden and she can't see the hypocrisy of her calling someone else a burden for not being Mr AlwaysPositive.

the guy is in fact not a whiny little *****. he lost his job and there is a good chance he's gonna get evicted. he was going through some stuff.


this is a girl that still lives with her parents telling the dude to man up. the **** disgusts me.

 

[Sik]

the guy is in fact not a whiny little *****. he lost his job and there is a good chance he's gonna get evicted. he was going through some stuff.

this is a girl that still lives with her parents telling the dude to man up. the **** disgusts me.

Your friend learned a hard lesson, or at least I hope he learned one.

Duty. Honor. Loyalty.

These are traits that men have. Sometimes men believe women have them. They don't. Any man who believes otherwise will be going against what has been known for over two thousand years.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:13

 

[Robert28]

I can relate to that guy very well. I was him when I was 15-18. Somehow got hungup on this girl who lived down the road from me and looking back now I wasted a lot of years pursuing her hoping something would happen and now I just laugh about it because I realize how stupid I was and what all I missed out on with other girls. The thing that's different is she liked me when I first met her but I was dating someone at the time. I eventually broke up with the girl I was seeing to pursue this girl and all of a sudden she was interested in me no more.lol I spent all that time telling myself "she liked you before, she will like you again if you do this or say that, just keep trying!". Man what a big fvcking waste of my time that was. I'm not lying when I say I stayed single for about 3 years because I was so hungup on THIS girl. Eventually she met some dude (after dating tons of dudes and me having to hide my feelings about her all that time) and she eventually told me off. It was kinda harsh, basically "You and I are never going to be, just get over it, I love this dude and he is who I'm going to marry oneday". Far as I know she's still married to the guy and lives in my town, but just down the street from her parents. I rarely ever see her though. I did see her in the mall like a year ago but I didn't talk to her or anything. Still can't believe how AFC I was back then and if I could go back to those 3 years knowing what I know now I'd have never given her @$$ a second thought.

 

[YawataNoKami]

There are times even strong men fall too. All these strong/weak discussion talk as if you are born in either side and can't cross boundaries. There are people like movie stars, who have achieved their fame and glory, fall out of earth's existence just like that. Nobody gives a ****. Until they die then it becomes news, then people pouring their 'love', 'hearts', and 'thoughts'. Gee, how many **** did MJ have to deal with when he was alive? After he died, people suddenly making tributes to him? Why didn't they do it before, make him feel a bit more appreciated when he was alive?

Weak men can become strong, likewise, strong men can become weak. You will swing back and forth in your life. Guaranteed.

This is one reason why marriage is such a bad idea for men. Once you fall, your wife out of her nature will despise you. She will of course console you, 'help' you get back up, but her nature has made you unattractive to her. You stay in the weak zone for far too long, she will divorce you.

Gentlemen take sometimes off from work and attend the courthouse and pick court rooms randomly. It is worse than any third world country that you can think of! I really think they should make is obligatory for men who are getting married to attend x hours of family court.