"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The dating game is pretty much a game of luck

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ArcBound

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The harder I work the luckier I get
 

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Real men create the life that they want to live. Even in the midst of what would appear to be strife and turmoil. Your thinking like a lazy man if you think that the dating game is just luck.
 

zekko

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Iceberg said:
For the purposes of the message board, I think we're taught that only a certain type of guy can keep a woman. The real world is much more complex than "AFC" "Alpha" "PUA" etc, etc.

Just because a guy isn't our definition of "DJ" doesn't necessarily mean that his wife is going to bang the high school basketball team behind his back.
I totally agree with that.

The thing is, pickup is a numbers game. We're taught to be a certain kind of loud, brash, somewhat @ssholish guy, we're all taught to be the same guy, basically. I think the reason is not because all women are going to be attracted to this guy, it's because it's a numbers game. With the main goal to pursue sex from random women, getting ONS's and FBs. Being a guy with this personality, who doesn't care, is in good position to go out and hit on girls and not get hurt by any rejection that comes along. You're not so much a desireable man as a pickup machine (Although I do believe women are attracted to bold behavior).

Also, the type of girl who goes out drinking with the thought of going home with some strange man, is more likely to be attracted to this type of guy, at least short term. I think Brad80 has a thread on here somewhere, where this woman has a boyfriend, and she's looking for a guy who isn't going to get attached to her and cause her trouble with her relationship. She just wants some sex, she wants someone to cheat with. Pickup Guy fits the bill perfectly.

It's not that all women are hoping you will never get attached to her (they want you to, just not too soon because that shows weakness. Men should never be weak). Women looking for a relationship will want you to get attached, at the right time. But for the bar slvt out looking for a notch in her bed, that's not what she's looking for. Pickup gurus prepare you to succeed with these club girls, because that's where they can make money, running bootcamps. And also because that's where the easy sex is (alchohol).
 

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Social ability is the number one predictor. I'm telling you, every dude I know who is socially able to cultivate friends and associates is able to pull. They may not pull all the time or may not pull as much as good looking dudes but they pull.

If you aren't pulling you probably need to make a few friends. Which, by the way, will make life far more tolerable.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ilikecharlene

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I'll be unPC and say yes, it IS about luck.

Some have better looks, or more confidence/game. So these people have an advantage. That said, I think most acknowledge looks are not everything and are no absolute bar in dating. But this doesn't mean some hold advantages.

Advantages occur in life, and not everything is fair lol...
 
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