"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Cancer Wish

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If you knew this ugly girl who was dying of cancer and she had a wish to fvck you before she died, would you do it?

I seem to be finding myself in this situation. It's a girl I went to high school with. She apparently had a crush on me back then. Recently, she's been showing up at a place that I hang out once a week. She's been heavily flirting with me. She has also told me that she has about a year left to live.

So, would you grant her a dying wish?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Fvck yeah
 
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You have to ask yourself if her dying is the main reason why you are doing this.

If it is, white knight your way and send her off.
 

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Do you know her well enough to know that she's not a flake?

Is she a good person?

Is she attractive at all to you?

-Augustus-
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The chick isn't attractive at all to me. I'm more sitting on the side of no, I wouldn't fvck her. But then I always try to see it from the other side: if I was dying from a terminal illness, I'd love to bang some broad I found hot for a long time before I take my eternal dirt nap.

I should start up my own make a wish foundation and fvck women who are dying. I wonder if I could get government funding? :D
 

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Desdinova said:
The chick isn't attractive at all to me. I'm more sitting on the side of no, I wouldn't fvck her. But then I always try to see it from the other side: if I was dying from a terminal illness, I'd love to bang some broad I found hot for a long time before I take my eternal dirt nap.
I'm not sure I would even be physically able to bang a girl I'm not attracted to at all. But then again, not everyone has a chance to be somebody's cancer wish. You're quite the altruist, Desinova.
 

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Don't do it. She will become massively emotionally attached to you and you will most likely end up causing her and yourself a lot of pain.
 

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Desdinova, Atom Smasher nailed it.

She's not looking to ƒuck, she's looking for a real relationship before she dies.

I'd do it in a split second, if all she wanted was some bed time for a few hours; I consider the opposite immoral.

But in this instance, I am not sure what she really wants is to have sex once or twice, unless she clearly puts it like that.

Cheers,
 

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NOPE.

Its funny how society believes that once you're sick or dying... then suddenly the world owes you something. Suddenly you have the right to get whatever you want from whoever you want. Suddenly everyone is in debt to you just by virtue of having more time on earth left (assuming they don't get plastered on to a truck grill 2 hours before your cancer kills you)

I only f*ck women I'm sexually attracted to. No pity f*cks.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Atom Smasher said:
Don't do it. She will become massively emotionally attached to you and you will most likely end up causing her and yourself a lot of pain.
Agreed. She's probably feeling really lonely and scared. The odds of her getting really clingy are high.

After she passes, her family and friends will consider YOU the bad guy who (from THEIR perspective) pumped and dumped and took advantage of a sad dying girl. Nobody is going to think you did her a favor.
 
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Mike32ct said:
Agreed. She's probably feeling really lonely and scared. The odds of her getting really clingy are high.

After she passes, her family and friends will consider YOU the bad guy who (from THEIR perspective) pumped and dumped and took advantage of a sad dying girl. Nobody is going to think you did her a favor.
This.
 

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Danger said:
I think you inadvertently came up with a good opening routine.
LOL, I've already started using it :D

So I think the best thing to do with the cancer chick is to keep her at arm's length and use her as social proof. On Friday I was sandwiched between her and this older woman, and both of them couldn't keep their hands off me.
 

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Slightly, but it also makes it easy to find in the dark.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Desdinova said:
LOL, I've already started using it :D

So I think the best thing to do with the cancer chick is to keep her at arm's length and use her as social proof. On Friday I was sandwiched between her and this older woman, and both of them couldn't keep their hands off me.
As someone who's had to deal with cancer almost first-hand (my mother died from it) I'd ask you to just be honest and upfront and not use this girl. I'm the first guy who'll advise you to game the system and stick it to women for all the advantages they've got over us, but someone who knows they are going to die, and soon deserves some respect (provided they act respectfully).

If you want to **** her, **** her, if not, don't. But wasting what little time a human being has left is beyond even my morals. How she ends up using her time is another thing.
 

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No, most chicks wouldn't do it for me. Why would I do it for them?
 

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Chemo makes a person smell bad.

I was developing heart disease that almost killed me, and my now-ex decided she had no use for me.
I ditto Mike32ct-- you'll be the bad guy who used her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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