The Book of Woman

[ShortTimer]

There is one dark crevasse of woman I refuse to delve into understanding. I see the boundaries of it, the Event Horizon, but it is a blackhole that would consume my soul. I know it is there but I will not gaze into the abyss, I'm much happier off being consciously ignorant of it.

Come on, what do you think it is? I'm a sucker for these kinds of things "oh ShortTimer don't go into that cave, you don't want to know what's in there." Which only makes me want to go even more. So spill, or at least point me in the right direction.

Pale skin, poor diet, jumpiness towards human touch, etc.

Hrm, that describes me a little too well.

Goodwill Hunting was spot on of the reality of genius.

So was "A Beautiful Mind," and the book "Ender's Game."

 

[Grey Fox]

This is bible material, if they create a "New Testament" to the DJ Bible this should be the preamble of it. Though I'm more about action than philosphifing, this certainly has a candle of truth to it.

-Grey Fox

 

[morisson]

i didnt read the post, the minute i started reading it, i found out that its a mistake to do that. it may be full of truth, but it doesnt help you get chicks, not one bit.

 

[STR8UP]

What she really craves to play is porn star, but that’s of ill-repute, at odds with her being entirely social.

I came to a similar realization over the last couple of years after watching scores of women getting naked dancing on the bar- every woman wants to be a stripper. Give her a couple of beers and the societal constraints come tumbling down.

Her friends influence her decision of your value, which partly is why it’s said you’re not dating her, you’re dating everyone; why often it is said women are committees, why women don’t think for themselves.

Isn't that the truth. I've been in the unfortunate situation where my girlfriend's best friend pretty much despised me. It sucks having to fight such an uphill battle. Fortunately the friends of the girl I am seeing now LOVE me. When I met her I made sure to pay attention to all of them, despite the fact that I was only attracted to one. Now I have several other women working in my favor even when I'm not around. And as I am introduced to more of her friends, I continue to add more supporters.

She hates to lose people from her life.

It took several months and numerous phone calls to get the remainder of my sh!t back from my ex when I moved out of her place. I think she purposefully HID items so as not to completely break ties.

Women derive their social value by how much male attention they get.

Sometimes they are more content KNOWING they can have a man than actually having a man.

Success with women comes in either feast or famine, there almost seems to be no middle ground.

I'm the posterboy for having either more options than I know what to do with or absolutely nothing, no in between.

The “special” woman doesn’t exist; there is no single trait, nor set of traits, any girl can possibly have that no other within a reasonable vicinity does not have; yet simultaneously women have potential to become special in one’s life.

I realized long ago that women are all the same. There's no such thing as "the one". One woman suffers from the same motivations that the next does.

One thing I could never understand is why women are so venomous towards each other.

Men competitive? HA!

Plain and simply, women want a provider; it’s only a matter of how accepting the woman is of the man's shortcomings.

True golddiggers are few and far between. ALL women want a man who can provide them with a comfortable life, plain and simple.

Remember, a man does not get a woman, the woman gets society. She is more interested in the societal value the man brings her; security, integrity, social status; things she lacks; than the actual man.

Here, here! It's all about what you bring to the table, nothing about you. She will only keep you around for as long as she needs something from you.

My ex was adamant about us still being friends and hanging out after we broke up. She needed SOMEONE to fill a void. Funny how as soon as she started seeing someone else keeping me around as a friend wasn't much of a priority.

When you go on a date with a woman, whom is in control? Her. While there are guys who say “Oh yeah I have everything under control”, it’s the woman with the power. The pursuee always gets in the last word.

So what if YOU are the pursuee?

I agree, usually in the very beginning stages of a relationship the woman has the pessimistic outlook, which gives her most of the power. But as things progress, and ESPECIALLY after you've done the deed, the center of power shifts. The trick is to cultivte and maintain her level of attraction for you. If you can succeed in doing this, you are in the driver's seat.

Contrary to what people may think of what I think of my findings, I don't think the nature of woman is necessarily wrong, only natural. As has been said elsewhere, find the system and work within it, live in harmony with it.

Exactly. Too many people get caught up in how unfair the world is. The intricacies of human interaction have been shaped by thousands of years of evolution and they aren't going to change anytime soon at the whim of one person who wishes to not have to follow the rules of engagement.

 

[DiamondMind]

Originally posted by iqqi
wow...this is so depressing to think that you all believe this...

We only believe all this cuz we've had it proven to us over, and over, and over.........

 

[DiamondMind]

Re: Sorry buddy

Originally posted by eddie money
It's a pretty simple equation boldness = women. Simple as that.

You can sum up this entire site with that statement.

Yuppers, simple as that.

 

[icepick]

Originally posted by Deep Dish
There is one dark crevasse of woman I refuse to delve into understanding. I see the boundaries of it, the Event Horizon, but it is a blackhole that would consume my soul. I know it is there but I will not gaze into the abyss, I'm much happier off being consciously ignorant of it.

How could you be happy with your thoughts about women if your thoughts point you to this blackhole?

My comments about philosophy or whatever was just a little rant about how people like David Quinn can say that women have no souls. Just because he thinks he is so smart, sitting around and "contemplating reality" really, he is just worse than the women he so off-handedly condemns.

As for "genius", well, one could go on forever about defining it, and it's purpose/usefulness, but in reality genius comes in all forms, and strangely, the personality of the genius reflects the art.

If it is logic, the genius is cold, rational, etc.

With more creativity that is needed, the more lively the person becomes.

The more "original" a person must be to achieve genius, the crazier they get. Sometimes, the "lost work" of many "original" geniuses is just a crazy, messy, psycho blur.

Don't get the wrong idea here, I am not critizing you or anything, because you remind me a little of how I used to be before a certain "event" in my life. (No, it has nothing to do with women.)

You speak of "black holes" etc. I want to ask a favor of you. Point me in the direction of your "black hole". I would bet that it is not as bad as it seems to you. The reason I say this, is because I came across something similar (similar in black hole-ness, not similar in 'having to do with women/sexuality') a few years ago, but trust me when I say I have sludged through the blackest of knowledge/worldview/information/philosophy holes and I was almost on the brink of going crazy for like a week. (And no, it has nothing to do with drugs either.)

But, I crawled out on the other side of it, with a drastically changed mindset and I am glad that I jumped into the pit so to speak. I am now stronger for it. Any philosophies about women/sexuality would be childsplay compared to what I went through.

Mainly, I ask, give me a chance to prove that the black hole is not as bad as it looks.

 

[Deep Dish]

Why tell you guys something I neither fully understand, nor want to know even exists, nor even want to dwell upon long enough to tell you guys. I kept on typing up a response only to soon stop and delete it, which is indicative my desire on this subject.

I want bliss. I don't want to 'pop' myself too far out of the system and end stranded up in no-man's land next to the philosophers; of Weininger, Nietzsche, and the like. I'd probably end up moving to Alaska or some place and live immersed in the elements of the wilderness, to focus exclusively on writing, and that's not a fate I fancy right now. I'm already popped out as it is.

But, if you guys really want to know, the answer is all there within the original essay, just look closer. The horror starting kicking in when I dwelled not upon woman but man.

 

[Drow]

Aww, and I was hoping for the Book of Man next.. really our "purpose" or whatever you want to call it is to grow and learn.. and have fun. I don't even plan on diving into man's or woman's "purpose".. what IS the purpose in that? I don't even think our minds can comprehend that.. and why bother. It's much more fun to enjoy life than to try and figure it out.

 

[Deep Dish]

Drow
Aww, and I was hoping for the Book of Man next..

That's my next endeavour. But first, a long break from this site.

 

[ShortTimer]

The horror starting kicking in when I dwelled not upon woman but man.

What? That we are a second-class gender made to serve the poonanie? That women were meant (biologically) to rule us? That we are to be a slave race?

Is that your black hole?

 

[Oxide]

These are not simple guidlines, these are the codes of honor all men shalt live by! -boondock saints

All women are attention *****s
All women play games
All women will cheat if they can get away with it.
All women care about what others think.



Great Post.

Dont let it make you hate women tho, this is just a warning for all of guys who think they see an angel when they see a girl.
Dont play by their rules, make your own, and make her adapt.

 

[icepick]

Originally posted by Deep Dish
I want bliss. I don't want to 'pop' myself too far out of the system and end stranded up in no-man's land next to the philosophers; of Weininger, Nietzsche, and the like. I'd probably end up moving to Alaska or some place and live immersed in the elements of the wilderness, to focus exclusively on writing, and that's not a fate I fancy right now. I'm already popped out as it is.

Fine.

But you misunderstand what I try to do. I am not trying to 'pop' myself out of the system.

With ALL of thier "popping" out, and philosophizing, the ONLY thing that Weininger and Nietzche have left is OBSERVATIONS.

All the theory stuff, (soulless women, master/slave races, etc.) is just conjectural bullsh*t.

Thier REAL problem is NOT that they are 'popped' out of the system, no, thier REAL problem is that they believe the sh*t that they spew out is Truth itself.

This brings us back around to the 'genius' thing again.

I say the REAL geniuses are the ones with fun lives (eg Camus) and that people who are hermits don't know sh*t, and thier theorys are utter bullsh*t (eg Nietzche.)

I don't think you have to pop yourself out of any system to understand life, on the contrary, the MORE you sit around and think, the LESS you REALLY understand life.

Yes we may be slaves to our d*cks and female sexuality, but man and woman are just HALF of a person. We are slaves to each other. There is nothing horrible about that, is there?

So what there is no such thing as unconditional love? It would be worse if there WAS because we would never be driven to improve ourselves or the world around us, we would never have to enlighten our souls.

The Adam and Eve myth points this out pretty good. Humans first had unconditional love, paradise, etc., but they were stagnant, no progress, nothing to do. So they sabotaged it, and here we are struggling to get back.

But it gives us something to do for the ETERNITY that we will exist.

I guess I could go on all day, but my POINT is that using THINKING as a tool to understand life is pointless, you MUST experience it. Those weepy eyed philosophers (otto weiney) are deluded and understand NOTHING. Distill thier pointless ramblings out and all you get is just observations, facts.

I am sure if Mr. Weininger had actually been with a woman in REAL life rather than just his mind, he would see that he was measuring them with the wrong device, and he would not have been so pessimistic.

Yeah, we can beat our chests all day and say that our job as men is to blaze a path through the world, change nations, make money, etc., etc., etc., blah, blah, blah...

But in the end, none of it matters at all, because we will ALL die, and the world will waist away. Past civilizations that men fought with thier entire beings for, are dust today.

All we have left in the end is experience.

 

[Deep Dish]

“Innocence is ignorance. To know and remain innocent would be the highest.” - Otto Weininger

But you misunderstand what I try to do. I am not trying to 'pop' myself out of the system.

I understand, and I myself don't want to go there, which you understand.

And in fact, all this reminds me how when men talk, we talk about the intellectual thing being discussed, even losing track of who we're talking to, so focused on the subject, while women talk just for the sake of talking, connecting between the two, while what they actually talk about is irrelevant to them; you can keep on switching topics, or even where you're talking about one thing and she's talking about another, and it won't really matter. I never worry about what to say to women, because I know all I have to do is be saying something and that'll count, for the most part.

 

[Drow]

Don't want to go where DeepDish? I have to agree with icepick on this.. Weininger and Nietzsche were hermits.. they are looking at life through a filter instead of experiencing it. Mr. Fingers said it correctly: "The world exists to teach us, and we exist to learn and to grow, and more importantly ENJOY the challenges that life brings us." THAT is our purpose.. what did those philosophers accomplish!? We arn't defined by are thoughts, but rather our ACTIONS. Actions are the only thing that count.. forget the deep-thinking.. thoughts lead nowhere.

 

[icepick]

Okay, lets dig beneath the surface a little bit.

I compare some of the stuff on "The Thinking Man's Minefield" (don't think I don't know where yall get the information from, ) to a bunch of women sitting around blabbing how men are pigs and think entirely about sex becuase they all got hit on that day.

Of course, the argument is tough because they side "thinking" with masculinity. One time I actually had a discussion with a real live stripper (kinda white trashy, but attractive) about religion, and we started getting into fundamental reality.

She made some DAMN good points, and came to about the same conclusions that I did. (No, she did not look masculine either )

I read some of the things on that site, and some of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Just because a woman is not giving 'cliched' answers does not mean that what she says is correct. It may be 'fashonable' at that moment to say things like "It is impossible for a woman to love." (And DONT say you have never said anything just to be 'fashonable'! )

Can it not be said that it is impossible for ANYONE to love?

I wouldn't take ANYTHING on that site too seriously, because you know what I see? I see a bunch of 'thinkers' (man and women) getting together and feeding off thier own (unacknowledged) egos coming to insane ass conclusions (of COURSE the conclusions MUST be anti-common sense and anti everything we take for granted, or they wouldn't be good conclusions now, would they?)

They draw it out with Masculinty connected with Thinking VERSUS Femininity. In reality, I think Maculinity is DIFFERENT from Thinking. There is no thinking in sexuality, and the general conclusions that they DO reach involve comparing THINKER guys with girly-girl chicks.

Well, duh? What kind of conclusions will you come up comparing those two?

What they should REALLY do is compare manly-man guys and girly-girls, they will find that they are BOTH dumb. Sexuality has no brain, the brain is SEPERATE.

I hope you see this, and if anything, I hope you see that everything on this planet is, at the very least, an INCOMPLETE theory.

I'll stop here, Mr. Dish. No hard feelings.

 

[darwinian_sympathiser]

Let me tell you all the darkest secret of all:

THERE ARE NO REAL AFCS!!!!

That's what bondjamesbond, Anti-Dump, The Unknown Don, Deep Dish, and a host of others have been tell us!!

I also notice that you Deep Dish seems to saying that having good looks equals high status to a woman. I can't agree more. There are other factors too.

But anyway, this threads too large and in reply to icepick I quote Erdos:

"Nobody gets to read the book. You only get to see glimpses."

He was one of the greatest mathematicians in the world who shunned every human need possible in order to devote himself entirely to mathematics. The book he referrs to is what the Supreme Fascist (call it God if you're religious) keeps that contains all the theorems that can be discovered with the most beautifully devastatingly simply proofs possible of them.

And, icepick, I was profoundly shocked by Camus's "The Stranger". I never thought anyone could write a book like that - or had the right to for that matter. He makes Jane Austen, Charles ****ens etc. . look like complete p*ssies.

And back to my beginning quote. I agree with Deep Dish in "women are simple". It's going to take stupidity to the utter extreme to mess up with a female who is already sexually predisposed towards you.

Think of it this way: If you had the most beautiful woman in the world (who you rate as a 10+++) make a completely idiot of herself by trying to get to know you or ask you out, would you be in the slightest way bothered? Hell no, you'd take her anyways. . .

The advice of AntiDump, bondjamesbond etc. . is to stop wasting valuable time on woman who are using you to stroke their egos or have no sexual interest in you, making you look like an "AFC" in the process when really no-one is an AFC. Come to think of it a top ranking Don Juan becomes an AFC when faced with trying to win over a woman who has no sexual interest in him. As bondjamesbond brutally puts it:

"A real man knows when to walk away and stop wasting time. The idiot will drum up a hundred reasons in his head why a chick is acting cold towards him but will never accept the bottom line: She doesn't want to f**k with you."

Oh, and icepick, I think Nietzche is amazing. Being cut off, or participating in the world to understand it both have advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes certain people specialise in certain areas. It doesn't necessarily mean one way is more "truer" than the other. Ask any theoretical physicist if he ever contemplate going near a black hole past the event horizon

If you really want to be depressed and cynical about like life read Schopanhauer.

 

[icepick]

Let me tell you all the darkest secret of all:

THERE ARE NO REAL AFCS!!!!

Yeah, but that is good news.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

apt quote

Remember, a man does not get a woman, the woman gets society.

Man, does this ever hit home. This explains why I never have any luck getting numbers when I go out by myself.

 

[Diamond Detective]

This is probably one of the best posts I have read here. Very good philosophy and probably the only one that applies to here. Well written, as always by you.