The Book of Woman

[Deep Dish]

From “A Woman of No Importance”
By Oscar Wilde

MRS ALLONBY: When Ernest and I were engaged, he swore to me positively on his knees that he had never loved anyone before in the whole course of his life. I was very young at the time, so I didn’t believe him, I needn’t tell you. Unfortunately, however, I made no inquiries of any kind till after I had been actually married four or five months. I found out then that what he had told me was perfectly true. And that sort of thing makes a man so absolutely uninteresting.

“Every woman is a rebel, and usually in wild revolt against herself.”

Society is the book of woman. She is more interested in society than an interesting man. There is an entire subject of sexuality and how women prefer good-looking, sexy guys over plain guys with IQs over 150 with honesty of saints -- women would rather talk to a man than an angel any day, but this essay is long enough, though must it remarked good-looks = high social status.

Her friends pick her boyfriends. Her religion tells her to deny her very nature and for some like Orthodox Jews and Greeks, even playing role of her friends picking her mate. Dating never happens in a vacuum free from outside influences; you’re not dating her you’re dating everyone. In a certain light, men do not get women, women get society. Human do not fall in love with one another, but rather with what we get in return.

“Of what use is independence to a woman, if she is - all alone?”

Food for thought: Most common female occupations.

• Sales workers, retail and personal services
• Secretaries
• Managers and administrators
• Cashiers
• Sales supervisors and proprietors
• Registered nurses
• Elementary school teachers
• Nursing aides, orderlies, and attendants
• Bookkeepers, accounting, & auditing clerks
• Receptionists

Notice, save for a few, all the jobs are socially orientated. All jobs are either socially or money-orientated, or both. Most common (actually, all) majors I hear from women: education, sports training, psychology, business.

Excerpts from "Why are there no female philosophers?"

David Quinn: Women may be intelligent, but they have no soul. By that I mean they have no connection at all with the highest wisdom. The idea of trying to comprehend the nature of Reality with their own minds would never occur to them. They have no appreciation of the concept of Ultimate Truth. It doesn’t excite them. They are totally dead in this regard. All the female intelligence and energy in the world cannot mask this fact. For all her prettiness and energy, woman is fundamentally unconscious and aimless.

[...]

Some of the factors which have led me to my current views on women include: (a) my understanding of Reality, which I know to be wholly beyond the grasp of women, (b) the sheer lack of female philosophers of any note in history, (d) the virtual lack of any female scientists and artists of any note in human history, and (d) the sheer lack of interest in philosophy by almost all women on the planet.

Martin Dudaniec: I did meet a woman once who I regard as living an elevated and spiritual/logical life, but that is one in a large number. Incidentally, none of her features were very feminine (face, figure, style of movement) and she was not very interested in pursuing sexual relationships. Nothing about her that I saw could be characterised as female in the general sense of the term. In my opinion, her ideas on issues were highly advanced and there was a lot to be learnt from her.

So the point is, I have absolutely nothing against someone happening to be of a different gender to me, because I take everyone as they are, on their own terms. Gender is certainly not always indicative of character, and to discriminate against someone on that basis alone is pathetic bigotry. The point is that the women who don’t fit the general mold aren’t very womanly in the first place - and they are extremely rare.

I8piggo: If women around you don’t talk about philosophy, David, it’s probably because they’re worried about being looked down upon by you for being too male.

Dan Rowden: There may be some truth to that point, but it’s interesting to me that people who argue against myself and David on this issue invariably make our case for us without being remotely aware of it.

Our actions speak to what looms largest in our psyche (in our value system). If women refrain from philosophical endeavour because of how it will make them appear to others, then this speaks to what they value uppermost: i.e. relationship, community, being liked and approved of etc etc etc. It certainly doesn’t speak to truth and reason being valued to any degree.

Such a mentality is precisely that which is largely incapable of real philosophy, because that involves being an individual to the highest degree possible. Caring about how others judge them is an anathema to such a one. For various reasons, males tend more to such individualism (hell, even feminists will argue that in their own way, though not actually realising they’re doing it). This makes them naturally better disposed to a serious philosophic life.

David Quinn: It’s not just the fact that women hardly ever talk about philosophy (can anyone imagine three women sitting down and discussing the nature of existence for an hour? - I can’t), but also the complete lack of achievement by women in higher thought. More specifically, I haven’t come across any woman anywhere, either in my personal life or in my studies, who has displayed what it takes to become a genuine thinker of the Infinite. Philosophically speaking, the female landscape is a desert.

I8piggo: I've seen [women discussing the nature of existence] time and time again!

David Quinn: But you’re a male and therefore would have influenced the proceedings. Since very few women have any real passion for abstract philosophy (it is too far removed from the really important things in life - namely, relationships and sex), the chances of them sitting down and having a sustained, focused discussion about the nature of reality are very remote. More than likely, you will find them flitting around their favourite topics - men, clothing, knickers, children, gossip, etc.

I can certainly imagine a woman having a sustained philosophical conversation with a man, and I can even imagine, although with some difficulty, two women having such a conversation with a man. But two or three women by themselves..... well, I’m sorry, there my mind snaps.

Pimp Daddy Dave: Two or three women by themselves? I could set that up for ya, if that’s what floats yer boat...

David Quinn: That’s the scary thing. I can conceive of three women engaging in a lesbian orgy far more easily than I can of them sitting down and having a rational discussion. With men, it’s very much the opposite.

“Are there still virgins? One is tempted to answer no. There are only girls who have not yet crossed the line, because they want to preserve their market value... Call them virgins if you wish, these travellers in transit.”

For simplicity in explaining the true relation between women and society, turn for a moment to Freudian psychology. Here we have the id and the superego. The one and only point I bring Freud into this essay is his model happens to explain things quite well. Woman is entirely sexual, the id. Woman is also entirely social, the superego. How a woman strikes balance between the two is what makes up her apparent character. Note difference between apparent and inherent. It is quite interesting, annoying, how the young girls will go through quite amount of denial, trying to convince us her superego is her inherent character and that she doesn’t want to act out behaviors otherwise under the label of 'slut'. It was how she was brought up to think. Older women are more upfront, but pass it off as not a big deal.

Friedrich Nietzsche

There is something quite amazing and monstrous about the education of upper-class women. What could be more paradoxical? All the world is agreed that they are to be brought up as ignorant as possible of erotic matters, and that one has to imbue their souls with a profound sense of shame in such matters until the merest suggestion of such things triggers the most extreme impatience and flight. The “honor” of women really comes into play only here: what else would one not forgive them? But here they are supposed to remain ignorant even in their hearts; they are supposed to have neither eyes nor ears, nor words, nor thoughts for this - their “evil”; and mere knowledge is considered evil. And then to be hurled, as by a gruesome lightning bolt, into reality and knowledge, by marriage - precisely by the man they love and esteem most! To catch love and shame in a contradiction and to be forced to experience at the same time delight, surrender, duty, pity, terror, and who knows what else, in the face of the unexpected neighborliness of god and beast!

 

[Deep Dish]

Inside the Heart of Darkness

So, she withholds and plays role of good girl, because it’s what’s instructed to her what’s good behavior, of chastity. What to cognitively believe. What she really craves to play is porn star, but that’s of ill-repute, at odds with her being entirely social. Therefore she must come up with certain pre-qualifications, justifications, to allow ‘kosher’ sex. Romance. “We reached a certain level in our relationship.” Prince Charming, Mr. Right, Man of her Dreams. The ironic problem is while these social restrictions are artificial; that woman is not of inherent chastity, rather desiring to act out sexual behaviors; these restrictions are necessary for if left unchecked, her sexuality would flood everywhere. The time woman is most true to her nature is college; free from her parents, free from the Real World; societal restrictions are at their lowest; during college is the hardest time to settle down with a woman. The irresistible urge to sow of wild oats is too great for most young women.

“An intelligent woman will find a thousand compatible men, but an intelligent man is alone in the world.”

The value of virtues is illusionary; virtues only support and confirm, seal the deal so to speak, decisions based upon sexuality and social value. The only interest women take in geniuses is his presence adds to her social value, and to be around to hear his “genius” insights. Save for good-looking geniuses, geniuses are only but ghosts to women, only an intellectual concept to her.

“Men want to be the kind of persons that people look up to. Girls want to be the kind that people look around at.”

From “Women Are From Bras, Men Are From Penus”
By Anna Collins and Elliot Sullivan

How To Flatter The Pants Off A Woman

Although men are “flatulence-propelled”, women are “flattery-operated”. Women love to be flattered. But the man must know the correct way to flatter in order to achieve his goal, which is complete and total submission. Achieving this illustrious, low-life goal takes a bit of time, and a man must start off slow, building the flattery to a fine-tuned crescendo.

To do this a man must understand a woman's needs, which are simple and constant. Women need to:

Feel young
Feel skinny
Feel sexy

A man must make reference to these needs under all circumstances, at every possible opportunity. For example, he might say:

(Her need to feel young)

“When the beam of the officer's flashlight hit your panic-stricken face after he stopped you for speeding, I couldn't help but think how you looked sixteen years old again - just like the first time you were arrested for shoplifting.”

(Her need to feel skinny)

“Gee, I'm real sorry your grandfather died, but as you were leaning over the coffin to kiss him good-bye, I noticed how slim your ass looked.”

(Her need to feel sexy)

“You know, when those baggy sweat pants cling to your buttocks as you lumber to the fridge for yet another Dove Bar, I just go wild! I don't know whether to grab you by your expandable-elastic waistband, or wrestle you to the ground in a pagan fertility ritual.”

Notice how a man can use these seemingly inappropriate situations as an opportunity for flattery. Before you know it, by using these simple methods, you'll have a woman so flattered, she'll be flat on her back!

“Men commit actions; women commit gestures. - Phyllis Chesler”

Women read into signs because illegal it is for her to drive; tossing hints because for her to throw would be uncivilized. Rather than ask you out, she flirts with you and asks what you’re doing later, or presses her breasts up against you.

“Women are all bought in the market - from the ***** to the Princess. The price alone is different, and the highest price, in money or rank, obtains the woman.”

When you ask her out, she runs late night off to the telephone and chats incessantly with her friends. There was at least once when I saw a woman (whom I had briefly dated) with a few friends and those friends pointed me out to her, now consider I had never seen those friends in my entire life. The girl must have at some point, while we were briefly getting together, sent in her friends to spy on me, to check out what a catch was I.

She uses her friends to retrieve information; Are you single? Do you like anyone?; and other times to show off, case in point the last paragraph.

Her friends influence her decision of your value, which partly is why it’s said you’re not dating her, you’re dating everyone; why often it is said women are committees, why women don’t think for themselves. Her friends diss you if they don’t like you, praise you if they do; and her friends are her eyes and ears when she is away. If you are caught staring down her shirt, her friends will report to her you are a sexist pig.

She is friends of many and knows everything about her friends, even mundane daily life, is an engineer of a web of contacts. One great 'game plan' is to befriend many women into friends, to take every woman who rejects you and make her into a friend, and get hookups from them; by fact you get her seal of approval instantly gets you way further in than had you met the woman on your own.

When off in college, while man becomes a stranger to his parents, she keeps in contact with her mom.

She hates to lose people from her life. Ever notice when the instant you get over her and rid her from your life, is the very moment she somehow just pops back in. There was one time for a month I would continually bump into a girl, every time a different place, on a campus of 30,000 students, where you’re lucky to see someone once a month; and at the same time I detected she would make visits to my personal website, an address of which I never gave her. This woman had blown me off, though I did have quite a history before being blown off.

“There are two kinds of women: those who wish to marry, and those who haven't the slightest intention not to.

Women like to attend weddings, to hear the big, sweet, juicy promises the bridegroom makes.”

Women derive their social value by how much male attention they get. Atop their matriarchy is married, followed by engaged, has boyfriend, single, the old maid. Women will do quite literally anything to avoid being the old maid, and marriage is the ultimate symbol that “Hey ladies, look, I can get MEN! My femininity is so strong I can ensnare a man for LIFE!”

Women dream of their wedding day precisely because it is the one day they are Princess and ascend to the highest social status, married. It is their biggest orgasm, perhaps their only true one.

“Women enjoy making men chase after them during courtship because as wives they will have to carry the men.”

When women finish college and, perhaps, after spending a few more years single, their priorities change. It’s commonly mistaken that older women “mature” and “realize” what they “really want,” and thus go for the nice guys. No. They simply change their priorities. They always lust after sexy men, even giving him option of having a child without ever paying for it. [Marrying the husband but porking the father].

“Women are so alike, that if a man can win the love and devotion of just one woman, he feels he has conquered the entire female species. And if he cannot, then the entire female species has conquered him.”

Success with women comes in either feast or famine, there almost seems to be no middle ground. The proverbial women want what other women want, and how they seem so alike.

Even in anti-social environments; e.g. punk, goth, emo chicks; there is still conformity to society, albeit a different set of standards. Tattoos, piercings, rocker shirts, black nail polish, dozens of band logos, etc. And her core friends are of the same.

“The difference between rape and seduction is salesmanship.”

The most prevalent fear of women is that you’re going to somehow hurt her. You know your value, but how can she? Exactly. She can’t. You can ‘demonstrate’ your wonderful personality all you want, but that doesn’t give jack to a woman whom just met you. How is she supposed to know your long-term worth? But if you go somewhere with one, two, whatever number women, it shows if you’re okay enough to be around them, and therefore perhaps okay enough in eyes of those other women, because those women found you cool enough, desirable enough, safe enough to go around places with them.

Reading multiple movies reviews and hearing word of mouth before deciding to see a movie; relying on the critic’s five-star system for restaurants before eating; relying on quotes and citations in research papers; it’s really no different from how women view prospective men. If other women value you, so will she; even women with boyfriends because she never stops being a woman.

Excerpt from “The Manual of Love”

Importantly if you show that you have high standards this will alienate women, because they know deep down that they are no different to all other women. If you have loved many women then any individual woman will feel as though you love her personally.

Behave like you find all women attractive and that all women find you attractive. Because a woman doesn’t think for herself (remember that society is the book of women) she will only find you of value if she thinks other women find you to be of value.

She automatically assumes a good-looking man is a player who has his ‘pick of the litter’, but if he were to pick her over all those other women, it’d make her feel special. A good-looking man experiences some women initially showing interest in him, only to repel away when he shows back interest; she baited him to test her femininity.

 

[Deep Dish]

Of Love and War

I’ve noticed, throughout my job history, it’s always much easier getting girls new to work when I’m established, than when I'm the new guy. Guys may say, “That’s because when you’re the new guy, you haven’t demonstrated having a life, so the girls conclude you’re a desperate lone wolf.” Which has certain merit, but the greater truth is I naturally ascend to top of the social system, deriving top social value. Guys like talking to and hanging out with me, girls like enticing me with their femininity. So when new girls arrive, they look around and consider me some sort of celebrity. The social proof from female friends just adds gasoline to the fire. Yeah sure I have a life, but the girls barely know anything about it; they know much more about my ambitions than my weekend activities.

A teenage boy meets a beautiful girl. He soon falls in love and upon her dumping him, he cries thinking he lost such a special girl, a so unique type of girl he’ll never find again. Oh doom to him. And then he finds another girl and thinks the same thing. And again. Point is, when there is a few, each one will seem special and vastly different from all others; upon many, the differences cease to exist. The “special” woman doesn’t exist; there is no single trait, nor set of traits, any girl can possibly have that no other within a reasonable vicinity does not have; yet simultaneously women have potential to become special in one’s life. What I see happen to guys in their twenties who are in their first long-term relationship, is they consider the woman so special and vastly unique they consider (or even do) marry her, even if in reality the woman is ordinary.

“Men play the game; women know the score.

Women are the most powerful magnets in the universe and men are but scrap metal.”

There are women who play hard to get in order to pre-qualify you as a potential mate, that Mr. Right who rides in from his white horse and battles to win over her affections, bearing in mind her affections were secretly won over after the first five seconds. An exceptionally beautiful woman can gain rise from any man, so she looks for a guy who’s ‘different’. Her parents told her the right man would be patient, persistent, so on and so forth. Her friends reinforced the concept. But she can not tell from just looking at you or after cursory conversation, what of your true value, so she throws tests at you; she knows talk is cheap and feels more comfortable in the solid facts of action.

So here we have her body decides within seconds whether you’ll ever lay her, but depending on her socialization her mind may need some more convincing.

“Lady: one who never shows her underwear unintentionally.”

“She is like a stone on the hilltop, difficult to be moved. Yet when she is once started she goeth fast and far; no man knoweth her end. She believeth that ALL men are vain and easy to be flattered. Her heart is older than her head; yea, her emotion is the mother of her reason. She desireth many things, and she is happy till she getteth them. TWO things she holdeth dear, mystery and mastery.”

She plays challenge at first, but steadily over time more evident her interest, her sexuality comes forth. This is most commonly mistaken as “raising her interest.” It’s not really her lust for you increases, but rather her obstacles (“societal barriers”) wither away and as such, the more blatant her interest.

“A woman plays hard to get to distract a man from thinking that she will be impossible to get rid of.”

After sex.

“In all legends men have thought of women as sublime separately, but horrible in a herd.

Two women placed together makes cold weather.

Three women make a market.”

So Much For Sisterhood
From an issue of Elle magazine

As a graduate student, she slugged a man who tried to rape her-breaking a few ribs-before carting him off to the hospital herself. For the most part, however, Phyllis Chesler, a well-known feminist psychologist, has restricted her battles on behalf of women to the printed page. Her 1972 polemic, Women and Madness, posited that women’s oppression was literally driving them crazy. The book sold more than two million copies, and Chesler went on to a prolific career of patriarchy-bashing.

With her latest book, Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman, Chesler turns the tables and takes her own sex severely to task. Drawing on more than 500 interviews and studies on everything from murderous female chimpanzees to social status among Midwestern cheerleaders, she argues that women often treat women as badly as men do-only in covert ways that are harder to detect, and all too easy to deny.

EE: Are you saying that women are just as sexist as men?
PC: I’m saying that women hold sexist beliefs, too. But we don’t knowledge our behavior because we depend on each other for emotional intimacy. It’s a form of indirect aggression: Women don’t knock each other down-they sabotage each other through shunning and gossip and the creation of cliques.
EE: As guilty pleasures go, isn’t gossip pretty benign?
PC: There are different kinds of gossip. The way you gossip against another woman because you envy or fear her, and that gossip leads to assassination of her character and perhaps even to her death-
EE: Her death?
PC: One anthropologist did a brilliant study about the honor killing of an Arab girl whose brothers knifed her to death. No fewer than six women in her tiny village had spread the rumors about her sexual behavior. Another study about Australian teenagers found that taunting, ostracizing, and gossiping among girls lead to suicide attempts and dropping out of school. This stuff isn’t merely bad behavior, it’s potentially lethal.
EE: It sounds like Heathers is a better model for thinking about female relationships than, say, Sex and the City.
PC: Look at the workplace: One study found that in large, male-dominated law firms, the women knew they would succeed only if they did each other in, because there were only a flew slots open for women. The women had very sexist ideas. They thought that if a woman was promoted, for example, she must have been sleeping with the boss. Or that the firm needed a token female.
EE: So the stereotypes of the nurturing female boss and happily collaborating female co-workers are unfounded?
PC: People assume that women are fairer and more loving to each other than men are to women. It’s not true. There’s a very interesting study that looked at small, woman-owned, woman-dominated firm. The owner was described by her employees as a caring mother figure. However, this caring mother figure underpaid them, overworked them, and did not hire anybody for whom she had to pay health benefits. Now here is a perfect example of the ways in which women are willing to settle for less just for the chance to belong. We are used to a family dynamic, and try to connect at any price.
EE: Where do women learn to treat each other badly?
PC: Women’s sexism is probably learned once you reach school age. Young girls-age six to eight-begin to police each other so that everyone is the same and nobody is different. That’s why you’ll have women dressing alike, thinking alike, and sounding alike, because difference is so terrifying.
EE: And men aren’t under such pressure to conform?
PC: Men conform because they want to share the spoils. They run countries and armies. They work it out. Girls and women don't want anyone to leave them--they want to be sure of companionship.
EE: You don’t present a particularly flattering picture of female behavior. Has the book lost you any friends?
PC: I've been working on this book on and off since 1980, and I didn't finish it sooner because so many feminist leaders said, “You’d better not,” and “It will hurt us.”
EE: What are they saying now?
PC: A few could not bring themselves to finish reading the book. But in order to begin to evolve compassionate behaviors toward each other, you have to first acknowledge what's happening. Feminists often insist saying that all women are sisters. Now that I’ve looked at the research, I say, “Gee, they were right, but they didn't understand what they were saying.”

“It would take some men five years to degrade themselves sufficiently to be able to enjoy the society of women.

Friendship among women is but a suspension of hostilities.”

One thing I could never understand is why women are so venomous towards each other. Listen to them and one gets the impression life is out to get them.

“Women are like Gods. They have a face for their worshippers, and one for their rivals.

Misogynist: a man who hates women as much as women hate one another.”

I once went out on a blind date with a raving party girl, and at one point she remarked that other women think she is evil, considering her a threat of stealing men. Just her looks alone sparks the claws.

I once dated a punk, who seemed like a great woman, but what shocked my ears is when I’d overhear her talking to friends and the rate of which I heard “SHE”. Not “she”, but “SHE”. I forget the context, for this was years ago, but forever etched in my memory is what such hatred spewed from her mouth. In the following years, with my overhearing women at large, I virtually never hear “he”, but “she” is not surprising.

At work I once recently overheard a conversation bit between a man and a beautiful woman. At issue, apparently, was the incoming group of women, numbered about seven. The man looked over at the group, remarked, “Yeah some of them are pretty. But, I wouldn’t worry about it.” Even though this was all I heard, that “I wouldn’t worry about it” told me everything to know. All the women were pretty at best, nothing to wow over, and here the beautiful woman was worried. It wasn’t venom, it was fear. Quite an insecurity revealed for an otherwise secure and confident-seeming woman.

 

[Deep Dish]

The Reality Factor

“Few things are more expensive than a girl who is free in the evening.”

To certain extents, at heart women ultimately are golddiggers. Women naturally want the best for her now and future family, she wants the most economically comfortable life to raise her family in and indulge in her impulses (shopping). Even if she doesn’t want kids, she will still seek out the best husband she can find. Plain and simply, women want a provider; it’s only a matter of how accepting the woman is of the man's shortcomings.

“Women believe that all the money in the world would have no meaning without women.”

Excerpt from “Ladder Theory”

For a girl of 16 full points for money might be obtained by having access to a car and beer money. When she is in her early college years, a nicer car and enough money to join a fraternity is probably sufficient. As she advances into her twenties what we consider to be the normal money chart will begin to manifest itself -- that is, she'll want the richest man she can get.

At no point that we can discern does money ever not become a factor. Take any guy. Take a woman that has that guy. In no circumstance that is known would she not rather have a guy just like that, but with more money. Actually, maybe in one circumstance-when the guy has enough money to buy her basically everything she wants. This is self-evident, I should think.

“To a single woman men are either dates, potential dates, or date substitutes.”

From time to time I see a man clearly being taken advantage of, demonstrated by a man being with a woman clearly nowhere out of his league and clearly not interested in him by any stretch of the imagination. Been there, bought the heartache. A phone number is nothing without a date; a date is nothing without a kiss; a kiss is nothing without sex; even with sex, even with marriage, no automatic assurance the woman genuinely wants the man.

“Women get a life by getting a man; men get a wife by getting a life.”

Men give, women get.

Remember, a man does not get a woman, the woman gets society. She is more interested in the societal value the man brings her; security, integrity, social status; things she lacks; than the actual man. [Again, take a plain and broke genius]. “What can he give me?” What is a man but the embodiment of a car, the vehicle of which she can drive to her desires. What man ever grew up fantasizing as a boy he’d have kids? Most are adamant against kids until he begins contemplating marriage, or by accident. For most men with kids, the toddlers become the “love of his life”, but this is demonstrative men come to reflect their woman.

Excerpt from “Myths of Women”
By R. Don Steele

BITTER MYTH: Women are out for money.

Women are out for status and fun or for security, depending upon their age. A few women are out for cold cash, but not too many. Status-seeking women aren’t ready to settle down. They just wanna have fun, and they want their girlfriends to know it. They’re looking for a guy they can dangle in front of their friends and say, “Look what I got!” You don’t have to have money to be that guy, you just have to come across as desirable. Of course if you have money you don’t need to do anything else, but having no money isn't the end of the world. The women who are out for security have had their wild fling and want to settle down. They want a guy who can provide a stable base for the future (and that includes finances).

All in all it’s sort of like what guys do (and women whine about endlessly): when you’re young you want some bright, bubbly thing with huge tits, a nice ass, and a trimmed bush who screams like a banshee in bed, although you'll settle for much less; when you’re ready to get married you want a nice girl who isn’t going to break your balls. They’re usually different people unless you're very, very lucky. Young women want bad boys who will show them a good time. When they’re ready to get married they want some guy who is going to be able to pay to keep them comfortable.

So as we see, it’s not all about money, but once again about the woman’s relation to society. Although if you dress like money, you will be treated like it.

“Men are run ragged by female sexuality all their lives. From the beginning of his life to the end, no man ever fully commands any woman. It's an illusion. Men are *****-whipped. And they know it.” - Camille Paglia

When you go on a date with a woman, whom is in control? Her. While there are guys who say “Oh yeah I have everything under control”, it’s the woman with the power. The pursuee always gets in the last word. For all the guys who think they are ‘pushing her buttons’, how do you know she didn’t push yours? Why, her exquisite body, her angelic smile, her long flowing hair, her letting you catch her checking you out, your three month dry spell.

Chris Rock once remarked guys go on first dates wondering if he’s going to get laid, women go on first dates already knowing. Guys judge dates by how close he got sex, women judge dates by how much money was spent.

“The horrifying thing about the mystery of woman is that there isn't one.”

Ugh.

“Society is now influenced, shaped, and even to a large extent controlled by women. This is a far cry from the world of our childhood, when society was controlled by... Well, as the author recalls, society was controlled by Mom. Christmas dinner for all the relatives, square dancing, the PTA, split-level houses with two and half baths - surely no man thought these up. Feminism seems to be a case of women having won a leg-wrestling match with their own other leg. There is only one thing for men to do in response to this confusing situation, which is the same thing men have always done, which is anything women want.”

I leave the floor to Oscar Wilde.

MRS ALLONBY: The Ideal Husband? There couldn’t be such a thing. The institution is wrong.

LADY STUTFIELD: The Ideal Man, then, in his relation to us.

LADY CAROLINE: He would probably be extremely realistic.

MRS ALLONBY: The Ideal Man! Oh, the Ideal Man should talk to us as if we were goddesses, and treat us as if we were children. He should refuse all our serious requests, and gratify every one of our whims. He should encourage us to have caprices, and forbid us to have missions. He should always say much more than he means, and always mean much more than he says.

LADY HUNSTANTON: But how could he do both, dear?

MRS ALLONBY: He should never run down other pretty women. That would show he had no taste, or make one suspect that he had too much. No; he should be nice about them all, but say that somehow they don’t attract him.

LADY STUTFIELD: Yes, that is always very, very pleasant to hear about other women.

MRS ALLONBY: If we ask him a question about anything, he should give us an answer all about ourselves. He should invariably praise us for whatever qualities he knows we haven’t got. But he should be pitiless, quite pitiless, in reproaching us for the virtues that we have never dreamed of possessing. He should never believe that we know the use of useful things. That would be unforgivable. But he should shower on us everything we don’t want.

LADY CAROLINE: As far as I can see, he is to do nothing but pay bills and compliments.

MRS ALLONBY: He should persistently compromise us in public, and treat us with absolute respect when we are alone. And yet he should be always ready to have a perfectly terrible scene, whenever we want one, and to become miserable, absolutely miserable, at a moment’s notice, and to overwhelm us with just reproaches in less than twenty minutes, and to be positively violent at the end of half an hour, and to leave us for ever at a quarter to eight, when we have to go and dress for dinner. And when, after that, one has seen him for really the last time, and he has refused to take back the little things he has given one, and promised never to communicate with one again, or to write one any foolish letters, he should be perfectly broken-hearted, and telegraph to one all day long, and send one little notes every half-hour by private hansom, and dine quite alone at the club, so that every one should know how unhappy he was. And after a whole dreadful week, during which one has gone about everywhere with one’s husband, just to show how absolutely lonely one was, he may be given a third last parting, in the evening, and then, if his conduct has been quite irreproachable, and one has behaved really badly to him, he should be allowed to admit that he has been entirely in the wrong, and when he has admitted that, it becomes a woman’s duty to forgive, and one can do it all over again from the beginning, with variations.

LADY HUNSTANTON: How clever you are, my dear! You never mean a single word you say.

The preceding took me quite some time to compose and compile; I do not apologize for its length; and through the way one last quote sums the experience.

“Even when a man understands a woman, he can’t believe it.”

Whew!

I do love women. Really.

 

[VIVAlasVEGASBaby]

GODDAM!!!!!!! AWESOME POST!!!!! Really long, but rightfully so.

Welcome to reality, that is what i would have called this post. Chicks are insecure ego trips who have to be hot to others for their lives to continue. It really is sad. Thank god im a guy. It also kind of sucks that all my dreams of finding my one and only woman is pretty much a load of bull****. But this is an amazingly compiled post.

I'd give you 100 stars, but i can only give you five This belongs in the bible ASAP!!!!!!

 

[Brazilian_Blues_Boy]

Well
It was awesome
Very clever, very well thought.

It's good to know what we're dealing with...and, even knowing what we're dealing with, we still love them...

Great post!

BBB

 

[Digital Mastermind1]

OK PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU GUYS SAID IS THIS " WOMEN ARE ATTENTION *****$" THAT WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT RIGHT.

 

[Marquez]

still trying to understand women, eh?

your philosophing makes me sick. get a life.

 

[Imbrondir]

This information, is something I wish I never knew.

 

[JoeMonkey]

Interesting reading. Thanks for sharing it.

 

[eddie money]

Sorry buddy

I'm going to have to agree with Marquez here. It's not that f'n hard. Getting women is about having a ballsack *period*. I heard someone once say they weren't impressed with some of the pick up artists that they met and that they were "at most ballsy". Well, that's what taking women gets, and that's it. If you have enough balls, you get women. It's a pretty simple equation boldness = women. Simple as that.

 

[VIVAlasVEGASBaby]

Who said this is about getting women? It is ABOUT women. He knows how to get women, so shut the **** up. Stop posting bull**** replys on great posts. lol i kind of wish I didn't read this either...

 

[RIchardo]

Absolute brilliance my lad absolute brilliance.

As for you who criticize the philosophy, i will say you are right, it is not that hard.......but then again, neither is driving a car.....but when one knows all the intracacies of a car and why it works then one can make the car do what ever it wants at any time.

 

[bothbarrels]

So True...

Great post. My hat is off to you.

 

[Sleepless]

Some of the quotes/excerps were elucidating.
Mucho grammatical errors. Find the edit button. Know it. Use it.

 

[Drug_L0rd]

why do youse wish youse hadn't read it???

 

[VIVAlasVEGASBaby]

Ummm, I use to look up to girls, thinking I was inferior. Now I have been unplugged from "The Matrix". It's kind of wierd to learn that all of their bizarre actions and vicious behavior has to do with sex and their place in society. They really are pretty insecure bizarre people, but, hey, we all still love 'em!!!

 

[icepick]

Interesting post, Deep Dish.

Originally posted by Deep Dish:
There is an entire subject of sexuality and how women prefer good-looking, sexy guys over plain guys with IQs over 150 with honesty of saints -- women would rather talk to a man than an angel any day, but this essay is long enough, though must it remarked good-looks = high social status.

Although intelligence and honesty are virtues, they will not get you laid. I find it funny that we use to think that being "nice" or "smart" would translate into anything sexual. (Notice the irrationality: being "nice" and "worldly" will get us the "good-looking" women! Ha!) We would only admire smarts and honesty in a woman if she were already hot, and even then we would admire her anyway (or at least want to have some fun with her! )

Our high moral standards as humans have NO payoffs in this imperfect world. This is why we must temper our "ideal" nature with some "animality"; because, only "animality" gets rewarded.

“Of what use is independence to a woman, if she is - all alone?”

All humans are naturally social. What makes the man different is the amplified testosterone levels. This makes him want to set goals, blaze a path through the world, master an art, build a structure, conqure nations, etc. In order to do anything complicated, one must SHUT UP and focus all the brain-power on that task.

Socializing is always the default when there are no goals present. Nothing better to do than talk.

I think a good way of trying to understand women (when you talk to them about life) is to imagine a man, but with NO personal goals.

David Quinn:
Women may be intelligent, but they have no soul. By that I mean they have no connection at all with the highest wisdom. The idea of trying to comprehend the nature of Reality with their own minds would never occur to them. They have no appreciation of the concept of Ultimate Truth. It doesn’t excite them. They are totally dead in this regard. All the female intelligence and energy in the world cannot mask this fact. For all her prettiness and energy, woman is fundamentally unconscious and aimless.

Hey, hang on a second Otto Quinn!

With all of our thousands of years of philosophizing, are we any closer to knowing the "Ultimate Truth"? Mental masturbation may seem like it is leading us to some abstract Truth, but in the end, we are right back where we started.

I think that a prerequisite to any "philosophizing" should be to do a bunch of acid just once. There is something about it that makes you THINK that you understand the world, it makes you THINK that you have discovered the ultimate truth. You know that feeling in your mind when you "get" something, when you finally understand something and all the pieces fall together? Imagine that times ten. Your "supposed" understanding of the world is so strong it can even override your sex urge!

But, 24 hours later, you are back in reality (cruel master!) and all of the so-called "Truth" is gone, showing you how etherial even "Truth" can be.

Imagine a fictional school that values hard work and studying. (Even though the main goal is to do good on the test.) The class studies away, commending themselves on thier "study methods" and how hard they work. Meanwhile, there is one student who does not study. This student just plays games all day. Of course, everyone looks down on the "slacker", since they value hard work. The "slacker" whines at the students, telling them to come and play, and wondering why they study so much, and scoffing at them when they explain what they have learned to her.

Test day comes, and the Teacher hands out the papers. The students jump into the test, scribbling away, while the slacker just sits there. After everyone else has turned in thier tests, UP jumps the slacker.

"Hey Teacher, can you give me the answers to the test?"

"Certainly! I thought nobody would ask!"

Guess who was the only one who aced the test?

“An intelligent woman will find a thousand compatible men, but an intelligent man is alone in the world.”

Clever quote, but incomplete. It should read:

"An intelligent attractive woman will find a thousand compatible men, but an intelligent unattractive man is alone in the world."

But I am sure you know this DD, but I bring it up because I think it shows a point.

The only interest women take in geniuses is his presence adds to her social value, and to be around to hear his “genius” insights. Save for good-looking geniuses, geniuses are only but ghosts to women, only an intellectual concept to her.

Is this the fault of women, or just the inherent trait of "genius"? Would not this statement make sense also:

Save for hot geniuses, female geniuses are only but ghosts to men, only an intellectual concept to him.

Genius, in this sense (philosophical/logical), is dead. There is no life in abstract logic. (It's use is yet to be proven.) Sexuality IS life. They are at odds. Certainly a guy should be smarter than the woman (so he can better make decisions) but he is not to be a "genius". When a girl likes a guy because he is smart, or shows insight, (as has happened to me a few times) I think that: #1 she is already attracted, (as we are when we find out a cute girl can cook or something, and we are like "WOW, I love you!") and #2 the thing that IS attractive is the LIFE that brings about the insight, the energy that brings it into being.

Case-in-point: how much trouble do musicians have to go through to get laid? Musical genius is certainly attractive. Artistic genius also works. Why? There needs to be that life that flows through you, and into your expression.

You can make music all day based on music theory, make art all day by copying things EXACTLY, even come to conclusions logically, but NONE will be as attractive as that sparked by the TRUE genius.

If you truly are a genius, you will attract. If you think you are a genius, you will repel.

“Men commit actions; women commit gestures. - Phyllis Chesler”

Women read into signs because illegal it is for her to drive; tossing hints because for her to throw would be uncivilized. Rather than ask you out, she flirts with you and asks what you’re doing later, or presses her breasts up against you.

Action, focus, drive, ambition: male traits fuled by testosterone. We respect other men by how much of these traits that they have. Women cannot be placed on this "respect-spectrum", for they are not other men.

Maybe that is the problem with the nice guy. He is so out of touch with his sexuality that he does not see women as a seperate sex, and he thinks that the things that will make other men respect him, will make women love him.

If you want to play baseball with your friend, you do not just give him a bat and start throwing baseballs at him, do you? No, men communicate before-hand: "Wanna play baseball?" "Sure." But with women (opposite sex), you just give her the bat and just throw. Communicating before-hand destroys the fun of the "game".

“Women are so alike, that if a man can win the love and devotion of just one woman, he feels he has conquered the entire female species. And if he cannot, then the entire female species has conquered him.”

So true! One of the weaknesses of men is our eagerness to generalize in order to reach conclusions.

"What is simple is false, but what is complex...is useless."

But I think it is true that women are more alike then men are. Men define, women are defined. Again, we have the testosterone thing. We may all be completely different, but men have the balls to show it.

What I see happen to guys in their twenties who are in their first long-term relationship, is they consider the woman so special and vastly unique they consider (or even do) marry her, even if in reality the woman is ordinary.

I see this sh*t all the time. People after college stick around in relationships that they don't want simply because they think that they can't find anyone else that is even close to their current partner. So they waiver for some time, then get married, probably to have a couple of kids and get divorced ten years later. Everyone thinks themselves to be so "lucky". (Men and women. I was trying to convince a HOT, SANE chick that she would indeed find another guy that wanted her besides her current boyfriend, who had been ignoring her.)

All the women were pretty at best, nothing to wow over, and here the beautiful woman was worried. It wasn’t venom, it was fear. Quite an insecurity revealed for an otherwise secure and confident-seeming woman.

Ah! but women do not show emotions as men do. We have to read them, NOT compared to other men, but compared to other women.

“Men are run ragged by female sexuality all their lives. From the beginning of his life to the end, no man ever fully commands any woman. It's an illusion. Men are *****-whipped. And they know it.” - Camille Paglia

Exactly why you should not use marriage (or a girl-friend) as a couch. Keep yourself attractive enough to always be able to replace the girl, and you will be less of a slave.

 

[iqqi]

wow...this is so depressing to think that you all believe this...

but hell, i am only one person so maybe it is true...

 

[Deep Dish]

Contrary to what people may think of what I think of my findings, I don't think the nature of woman is necessarily wrong, only natural. As has been said elsewhere, find the system and work within it, live in harmony with it. I'm at a point in my life where I can both understand and also have bliss; perhaps someday after however many women I meet in my life, I may grow bored and cast off the desire of woman, or perhaps time will tell I will forget it all and live in ignorance; but if one thing remains it is if the basis of human relationships is an illusion, it's one highly convincing one.

There is one dark crevasse of woman I refuse to delve into understanding. I see the boundaries of it, the Event Horizon, but it is a blackhole that would consume my soul. I know it is there but I will not gaze into the abyss, I'm much happier off being consciously ignorant of it.

Oddly, I find solace in the Book of Woman, so in far as what I laid out, not beyond. I find solace because it gives me closure to the years of solitude and pain, answering to me the ever elusive question "Why." For all the mystery and enigma which supposedly is Woman, there is no complexity; Woman is Simple; there is only depth within that simplicity, hence the scope and length of this essay. In other words, the nuances are extra credit. No, certainly a man does not need to understand Woman, for indeed look at guys with no brains getting Woman; but I needed to understand Woman, and ultimately the world itself. I'm a highly eccentric fellow, but to grow up unable to find what was so vastly different when all I could see was normal, to be perplexed by how people would say "Deep Dish, you're so... weird!" ("In a bad way?," I'd wonder) and yet for them also to find comfort with it, left me with the eternal "Why". Who was I and why, why were almost all girls not attracted to me; this is why I have done what I have done with my brain power, throughout all those other threads.

It's interesting that for all the speak of philosophy, I have no interest in philosophy. Never have. I know a few things here and there, and did briefly study Buddhism, but on the whole not much interests me other than a classic brain in a vat philosophy joke.

Icepick:
[As for geniuses being ghosts,] Is this the fault of women, or just the inherent trait of "genius"?

Genius and having a life are pretty much mutually exclusive. To think deeply is to not do anything, it's to deprive yourself of engaging others and lock yourself away from the outside world. It is deep, penetrating thought, for whatever branch of genius; music, art, scientific, philosophic, etc. And, judging by my previous self and by observing other geniuses, if one grows up being square with the world, then happens upon them the dooms of being 'unattractive'. Pale skin, poor diet, jumpiness towards human touch, etc. In fact, geniuses have the highest suicide rates than any other demographic, with many of those alive ending up in prisons; they break down immensely after failed expectations from parents and society, and perhaps also from shattered interpersonal relationships. Goodwill Hunting was spot on of the reality of genius.