The Book of Shuma Gora - Legacy for HighSchool

[Double_Diamonds]

If you've ever read the book of Shuma Gora you probably know what I'm talking about. Page (shuma gora) wanted all DJs to write there own book about their experiences as a Don Juan, to reinforce everything we have here. I agree with him in the fact that this would really really help the DJ community, and I also agree that the first year of a DJ initiates progression to Don Juan Nirvana is very important. If you've ever read the story of the golden cup in the book of shuma gora (read it man), theres a knight that physically follows a man through a forest and aids him in crossing the river to find the golden cup (represents Don Juan Nirvana).

I think it's important that every new Don Juan, needs an experienced Don Juan. I also think it works the other way around too guys! Master Don Juans can reinforce the ideas that need to be taught to the Initiates. The initiates can ever remind the Masters how difficult this actually is, they can remind them to stay the course because being an AFC is not worth it.

Please, at least consider this idea that I have buily largely off of Shuma Gora's Idea. And for heaven's sake, if you've read the book of shuma gora please respond to this thread! I hate seeing 4 replies and 200 views for posts. Don Juans, your ideas are the only thing that can make this better, and you're all that can make this work. Don Juans are strong, this will be too. Please Reply.

BTW, if you don't see how this easily applies to High School Don Juans, you don't remember what it was like. Being a struggeling Don Juan is hard, and it's harder in highschool.

 

[high nrg]

I like the idea.

kinda like a Don Juan Mentoring program.

i think itd help the newbies out a lot and make the forum a better place overall.

so sign me up.

lol, im right in the middle now, i could be a mentor or a mentee.

again, id just like to say i like the idea.

 

[LikRetsam]

It is by no means harder in highschool. Kindly give ample thought to your statements.

Writting a ton of field reports, to what end? So the new aspiring DJs can find a role model? The whole point of this site is for people to realise that thier only role model is themselves. That their better self is what they must aspire to become. I, nor you, should base our dreams on becoming some one else.

You know, the time of people asking for alot of field reports is over. Why? Because they have reached DonJuanhood and realise that their experiences are proper to themselves and that "shedding the light" on the newbies is not going to help them. They understand what their experiences are and what they mean and also realise that others must also live their own lives.

I do not post FRs. I have many seemingly perfectly DJ handled situations but I don't need to post about them. They are bound to me and that is all.

Why do people not publish their diaries? Because they are not that low. Because they believe that their experiences are worth something more then entertainment for someone on the sh*tter.

My experiences are worth more then the aspiring DJ or maybe any other person on this planet may understand. Only I truly understand and feel what happened. You can to some extent understand what happened, why it happened, but you can never feel what happened.

Words will not describe this phenomena, I suggest you go out and live your life and one day, I hope for you that you understand what I mean.

Lik

 

[Double_Diamonds]

LikRetsam you've helped me a lot in previous threads and I thank you for that so much. But you misunderstood my post. I don't want people to post about their lives and share it. I want one Don Juan to meet another Don Juan and help each other with LIFE. Not seduction, or women, or some great understanding. Just life. Imagine how great it would be to be back in highschool, and find out that you can trust someone in your class, your bestfriend, and.....he's a Don Juan from Sosuave. Ponder this and reply.

 

[killerasp]

Life...aint it grand.

I understand where you are coming from with this post. You can learn all that you want about being a DJ. You can learn all the tricks to getting numbers, analyze her body language, her eys, watever..but when it comes down to it.. if you have havent worked on your inner game (how you feel about yourself) then all that you learned would be worthless.

it took me awhile to get my inner game down and god knows its not perfect yet..but i learn new things about myself everyday.

ive meet other DJ's from the boards in real life and we have formed a connection outside the DJ boards and ive learned so much from them..more than the boards could ever teach me.

If you guys want some help..you can always hit me up on my AIM and ill see what i can do to help you all. believe it or not..learned alot from kids that are years younger than i beucase they developed the game at a younger age and im not afraid to admit it. help is help..simple as that.

 

[LikRetsam]

Originally posted by Double_Diamonds
LikRetsam you've helped me a lot in previous threads and I thank you for that so much. But you misunderstood my post. I don't want people to post about their lives and share it. I want one Don Juan to meet another Don Juan and help each other with LIFE. Not seduction, or women, or some great understanding. Just life. Imagine how great it would be to be back in highschool, and find out that you can trust someone in your class, your bestfriend, and.....he's a Don Juan from Sosuave. Ponder this and reply.

The problem with being a DJ is being alone. That is my thought out view. You may argue that you prefer to have some one by yourside but here's a little quote from LOTR:
"Frodo, you are a ring bearer... That is to be alone".

It would absolutly ROCK to have another DJ by ourside. Maybe to teach us or to share ideas etc... but I believe that my "road to becoming a DJ" was as effective as it was because in the real world, I did it alone . I fully believe that if I had another DJ while I was learning, I wouldn't be where I am. I would have been influenced by opinions and views. Now, the bible is composed of views from other people, but their views are on the world around them and so I can benefit from their posts to put me on track because they are general ideas.

I made my own view on the world because becoming a DJ seperated me from everyone else. I started staying alone and enjoying my life without others for awhile. And so... I can say that I learned alot and have made my own uninfluenced views on the world because I didn't have a DJ to share my ideas with. Now, at this point, I come here and post to talk about these ideas. I don't post about woman problems because they are truly irrelevant. Right now, yes, a DJ in real life to share my ideas with would rock but it is not always possible. I come here to listen to others' opinions and to post my own about life.

My bestfriend is a "DJ". He is not the God of women but I can talk to him about life with a DJ point of view. As for trust, I can only trust myself. Information is a very dangerous thing. I havn't trusted someone with information in 2 years. Every time I gave a little tidbit, maximum damage was inflicted with that tidbit by even my most "trusted" friends. I can not tell them things that could hurt some one else because chances are, it will get out.

I trust my current girlfriend. I'll give you that. But she earned it. The day my friends could keep their yappers shut, I'll let them in on my big secrets ;-) .
I also can't let them know whats going between chicks (for example my progress with a specific chick)because they always feel the need to go talk to the chick and see if thay can "help" .

Complicated, but I play better safe then sorry. I am my own counsel and need no more then that. I only talk to myself when I have "problems". I am not bothered by this. It makes every choice 100% mine and I am fulfilled with that. It also allows me to have only one person to blaim for failure: myself.

I just reread the quote and was about to erase everything I just said, but I rather leave it. If you are talking about a DJ to have another DJ by his side, that would be cool. But by no means should an incomplete DJ seek another DJ by his side until he has truly "found" himself.

This board is enough contact with DJs for me. I think that not knowing them physically or personnally helps the convos.

Please excuse the disorganised post.

Lik

 

[Double_Diamonds]

Immediately after I posted this me and Killerasp started talking about this topic. It got heated, i tought it was gonna be a full bore fight but we agreed on some things. And here are my opinions.

Listen up, sosuave needs you. So do the Don Juans.

I know that at one time, you once found yourself in need of sosuave, desperately. Maybe the time I speak of is now, right here at this very moment. Maybe you just found out about sosuave yesterday, or maybe your fellow Don Juans have worshipped every post you've made and you've been elevated to Nirvana, at least in there minds. But more than likely, you're in the middle of that. You're the basic structure of this entire message board system, of this entire philosophy and ideal that has shaped the lives of countless young men. You probably are that kind of Don Juan.

Maybe you're a new member, maybe you just learned of this place yesterday. If this is you, you need to read the Don Juan Bible. You need to receive counseling from other Don Juans but NOT in the form of fruitlessly repetitive messages we call Spam. You need to find a Don Juan and connect with him through email and live chat. Do not Spam these boards, they carry dignity.

It's rare, but maybe you're a Don Juan that is "elevated" in the sosuave community. If you are, most people know your name very well, and scramble to read your posts. You provide great advice and maybe great examples. I'm not blaming all of you, but many of you are at fault. "Elevated" Don Juans of sosuave, you contain one great flaw when it comes to these boards. People can not familiarize and associate with you. People like Pook, a great Don Juan, god bless his soul, has elevated himself to the level of a sosuave god. I cannot familiarize with that. I'm not a god, are you?

We all have our flaws and we all have our good traits. But here's the thing!

Sosuave message boards are falling apart fast, fact is they're turning to ****. AT ONE TIME YOU NEEDED SOSUAVE, OR ELSE YOU'D TURN AFC..NOW SOSUAVE NEEDS YOU, BEFORE IT TURNS AFC. Our boards, that's right OUR boards are being spammed by all sorts of people, and I admit I was one of them before. How do I get her to like me? How do I grind with chicks? I like her, should I ask her out? ALL BULL****. These questions are ruining sosuave, and sosuave needs you to fight this. We need more moderators who can close threads that are of no use to us. Than we need "mentors" of all levels (Yes, that includes the new guy all the way to Pook), that can email and chat with these Spamming people and explain to them what really matters. The Confidence, The Challenge, The Attitude.

This approach is more personal and will be followed better than the "New Members Read This Before Posting" approach. Sosuave Don Juans need to associate with Sosuave Don Juans.

But most importantly, sosuave needs you to give back a bit to the forums. Spammers need to stop. We need to eliminate Spam individually, and replace it with an individual HUMAN perspective on everything. Not a godly perspective that Pook has. With the combined perspective of all Don Juans involved, we can compile a resource greater than all others we have yet utilized.

The Don Juan Bible, The DJ Boot Camp, The Book of Shuma Gora, The High School Bible, The High School Mini Bible, The Speed Seduction Bible, Sammo's Course, and Weapons of Mass Destruction are great, but flawed. They don't have the perspective of all Don Juans involved. I want to make a great book of Don Juan perspectives. Pook (hate to pick on ya) has great ideas on Kino, but all Don Juans have a tiny tidbit of information they can share about it. It's the same for every Subject. The new age is upon us. Will you be a Don Juan and help sosuave, or will you quit?

Give me your perspective no matter who you are. We can merge great minds. Now it's time for the Book of Don Juans.

 

[LikRetsam]

You are 3 months late. These boards were going to ****. Now they are picking up pace and are faced with more interresting topics. Albeit it remains part "AFC"ish but that is essential to these boards.

You see, if there were more mods locking threads because they do not conform to one point of view, this place would goto hell because most people fall in the "AFC" category.

Pook's post on kill that desperation got to my ears/eyes when I was 11. I worked with only that for 3 years and was extremly succesful. He knows how to relate well to the people but he isn't a sosuave God. He is far from a title of God. He is just another person on this board with more experience/insight on the "game". Looking up to him is fine, whatever floats your boat but looking at him through such eyes as "he's a God" is not going to work.

What is to prioritize his post instead of mine or yours? For all he has proven is knowledge on a certain category, that of "being a man". you may be more knowledgeful in another category.

Sosuave doesn't need less AFC posts. these days it's doing just fine. This is a discussion board and we are here to discuss girl problems. Along with this whole view on the game come views on the world and so we will have posts on "life". There is a good balance at the moment in my opinion.

"elevated" DJs, you have a flaw.... Hear that guys? "elevated" DJs do not measure to such a God as almighty Pook!

I could sit here and critisize your post for a long time. Just know that you are wrong. That you simply feel like you want to make a difference. You want to become something more on this board. In time, that will happen. For now, just enjoy the board and the current discussions.

You can not divide sections for the "great DJs" the aspiring DJs and the AFCs. It does not work that way. For now people come here for advice and that is what they will get.

Lik

 

[killerasp]

LikRetsam: i must say..you may be only 15, but your intelligence on the whole game is astounding. i am extremely impressed.

I wish started the whole game when i was younger. Ill be honest, i didnt start dating until last summer. I figured things were not going too well with the ladies. i knew plenty, but on a FRIEND ONLY level. i wanted to be a lover, not just a friend. So i undertook that challenge to chage myself. I did take quite a while for me to get to where i am now. I would NOT be where i am today without this web site and the people that i have met from it. You can only read so much, the rest is up to you. You have to go out there and try everything from yourself and learn from it. Everyone has their own style. You can learn all the tricks you want, but if you want to develop and improve your game as a whole, you need to develop that inner game. Once you do that, everything about you will fall into place and as a result everthing about you will change for the better.

I never read a post by pook and look where i am now. Everyone keeps talking about this Pook and how their lives have changed for the better by reading this stuff...then if i should read it then my life would be better 100x over.

Although Double_Diamonds and I did discuss a view things, his ideas of closing down threads because they are AFC is a bit extreme. I admit, had the AFC posts when i first started because i wanted to learn all the tricks. But then i realized i had to work on my inner game, once i did, eveything else was easy as cake.

The forums are a great place. No argument here. But at the same time, reading can only take you so far. Its when you take it out onto the streets, is when the real learning begins.

 

[LikRetsam]

Originally posted by killerasp
The forums are a great place. No argument here. But at the same time, reading can only take you so far. Its when you take it out onto the streets, is when the real learning begins.

Rather, reading just puts more tools in your bag. You want to be equiped to handle most situations right? That's all this site is, a tool. Then you have to go out and use these tools.

Lik