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Whats the difference between a hor and a slvt? Is there an anti-hor defense?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I'm not sure about this one. Your defintion of wh*re is very broad and may be synonomus with the term sl*t. In my case however the difference is that sl*t and h-o are synonomus ie they'll f*ck you for nothing, then your friend, your cousin, your dad, your dog, anybody she can get her hands on and she likely won't be shy about this. A wh*re f*cks anybody who will give them stuff. Food, drinks, jewelry, chothing and money to list a few and only give up sex after attaining said rewards.Last Man Standing said:Whats the difference between a hor and a slvt? Is there an anti-hor defense?
A sl*t/h0r to me is a chick that will f*ck almost anyone. In high school there were always "those" girls everyone f*cked, but no one would admit to.PRMoon said:I'm not sure about this one. Your defintion of wh*re is very broad and may be synonomus with the term sl*t. In my case however the difference is that sl*t and h-o are synonomus ie they'll f*ck you for nothing, then your friend, your cousin, your dad, your dog, anybody she can get her hands on and she likely won't be shy about this. A wh*re f*cks anybody who will give them stuff. Food, drinks, jewelry, chothing and money to list a few and only give up sex after attaining said rewards.
Of course this is IMO only so you might want to confer with someone else.
That would be nice...if it were true.lookyoung said:Listen very carefully guys IF A GIRL WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU SHE WILL NOT PUT UP ASD
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I apply the ASD to girls that'll let me do almost anything else but f*ck. In that case I do not believe it to be a myth.
lookyoung said:Lets stick with the topic guys. Forget about what is the difference between slut and hor....... ANTI SLUT DEFENSE is what we are discussing
Pappadapolis said:A sl*t/h0r to me is a chick that will f*ck almost anyone. In high school there were always "those" girls everyone f*cked, but no one would admit to.
I apply the ASD to girls that'll let me do almost anything else but f*ck. In that case I do not believe it to be a myth.
So true. My exgf...we kissed and stuff, and we had a little party, so it was me, her, my best bud and her friend. She came onto me, telling me we were going to have sex. No problem there.IF A GIRL WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU SHE WILL NOT PUT UP ASD
Ok, obviously if a girl WANTS to have sex then it makes sense that she is not going to put up ASD....duh! This does not prove that ASD is a myth though. Here is the definition of ASD from the fastseduction website:lookyoung said:IF A GIRL WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU SHE WILL NOT PUT UP ASD A girl knows before she sees you that night if she is open to having sex with you.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
JustDoItAlways said:This is just Anti-Slut-Defence (ASD).
I posted this some time ago.
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I've thought some more about ASD and what has been successful for me in the past. I think that you need to have a "toolbox" of methods and strategies to deal with ASD.
With any particular girl you may need to use all of them to get to your goal.
1. "Understand the Motivation." First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.
From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.How else do you get around ASD.
Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.
- they need to prove to themselves they are not a slut;
- they need to prove to you they are not a slut; and,
- they don't want anyone else labelling them as a slut if word gets out about the encounter.
2. "Set the Mood." Get her horny, make her feel comfortable, get some wine (or champagne) into her. Romance her a little, run some patterns on her, have the lights down low etc. etc.
Setting the mood is all about allowing her to prove to herself that she is not a slut (chick-logic.) She should say to herself that "He did everything right so it was okay that I slept with him."3. "Your Passion" After most of my ONSs and my frequent first-date sex nights, the explanation I have heard from the girl most often was “You just wanted me so much.”
I can't go through all the different things you need to do to "set the mood" but if you just understand that it's just to make her feel comfortable about the encounter later (she wasn't a slut). All you guys are DJs so you should understand this.
In effect, she thinks to herself, he wanted me so much it wasn't really my fault.4. "Keep Trying". You will know when you are getting ASD when she says something like "we really shouldn't" or "we really can't" or "I really should go". Don't freak out, this is good sign.
If your passion is strong enough, it is a big enough compliment to a girl that it overwhelms the ASD.
Just let her play her little game(s) for a while. It is, afterall, very important to her (and to you in getting into her pants.)
Just proceed until you encounter the resistance, then back-off for a while. Do something else non-sexual, like go back to the movie for a few minutes, go take a long bathroom break, tell jokes in bed etc.
Then put the moves on her again until you get resistance again. Rinse, repeat.
After two or three times of this, almost all women will then feel vindicated that they have proved they are not a slut and then you can hit it.
5. "Reverse Logic". Another really effective method is to just use reverse chick-logic psychology on her and say her "yeah you're right we really shouldn't", say it two or three different times using different words. If she's also giving physical resistance such as pushing you away or getting up to leave, I throw in a "Yeah, you really should go."
They always stay and come back for more with this move.
6. "I Am Discrete". One of the motivations is her fear that other people will hear about it.
Never blab about it to anyone because you will get the big-gun ASD after, ie. last time.
In your pre-work dating, you should also never brag about any specific sexual conquests and especially any specific woman you have bagged. It is actually good if she asks you and you say "well I don't ever kiss and tell." This will get around her other fear that you will telling other people about it, even new girlfriends years down the road. Letting her know you are discrete is also a big part of breaking down her ASD.
7. "Taste the Honey". There are a number of SS patterns designed to get her to drop her a ASD shield. I am not going to type them all out.
The point of this is to let her know that you only live once, we're both mature adults, its natural to be apprehensive, we have an incredible connection, "taste the honey" when its right in front of you.
8. "Get Her Juices Flowing" Have you ever noticed that when you get a hard-on, you are ready to go right away.
Chicks are the same, they want to fvck when they get wet, when their puss gets engorged with blood, when it's stimulated.
Do some dry humping on her. Feel her up. Get those juices flowing.
Sounds a little crass but it is SO effective.
9. "Set It Up For Next Time". There may be a time when its clear she is telling you "No."
If it sounds like "No, not this time but maybe next time." Keep your cool and let her say No. Women will actually feel better about having sex with you in the future if she's knows she can say No once in awhile and you won't get upset about it. You're much more likely to get sex any time you want after this.
If it sounds like "No, I don't think we'll ever get together." Tell her "Wow, you are the biggest tease I've ever seen" and just get up and leave and leave her alone after. She'll probably come back apologizing after and you can set up a "Returning Fox".The anti-slut defense may continue to be needed by some women for a long-time into a relationship so you may need to vary your techniques some but just realize this is important to her.
Keep adding to your toolbox.
realsmoothie said:Black or White thinking isn't going to solve this.
What should be said is:
IF A GIRL REALLY WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU SHE WILL NOT PUT UP ASD.
It's obvious. If a girl is dripping for you, she's not going to waste time unless she's shy. But if she's not sure about you, she's going to have to qualify everything in her head. Sure, she'd like to get some, but she's not sure if the benefits of the sex outweigh the possible consequences.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
So if she doesn't fvck you there's no ASDlookyoung said:It wasn't ASD, she just didn't want to fvck me that particular night. If she wanted to fvck me there would be no ASD.....
THAT'S WHAT ASD MEANS TO BEGIN WITH. She's OPEN to the idea but HESISTANT when the time comes to follow through.A girl knows before she sees you that night if she is open to having sex with you.
mrRuckus said:So if she doesn't fvck you there's no ASD
And if she does fvck you there's no ASD.
Why even make this statement then?
THAT'S WHAT ASD MEANS TO BEGIN WITH. She's OPEN to the idea but HESISTANT when the time comes to follow through.