The BIG Question: Do some girls get attracted to AFC????

[ICaughtFire]

Probably one of the first things that new comers arrive to learn in this website, is that the general tactics for approaching girls: ****y and funny. ****iness shows that you are confident with who you are, what you do, it shows you have a higher social and personal status than others, it shows that you accomplish more than others, funny just makes you a blast to be with.

And we all concluded that girls fall for these male traits, that makes a man the ultimate Alpha Male.

However, i have also been thinking: Are girls born naturally to appreciate and fall for these traits? Or, the media, culture and the way the individuals brought up shape them to fall for these traits? And if that is the case, what will happen if the girls were brought up and shaped to like the natural AFC?

The biological theory for man and women chasing the opposite sex for the Mr. Perfect or Ms. Perfect is that we want our offspring to carry on what we think are the suitable and desirable genes and personality traits to pass on to our next generation, or a more simpler explaination, is that Ms. Perfect is a much better person to be with and share our lives with.

AFC, is someone that we have all been once, before coming to this website, or others with similar purpose and intentions of aiding boys in their quest of succeding with girls. AFC doens't know the game of creating fantasy, mystery, sexual tension, and the games. They fall in love with the girl, and shows and represents everything that they presume girls want: Rommantic, loving, considerate, nice, friendly, honest, nice, nice, more nice, and the "i can't live without you" line

Nevertheless isn't nice, consierate and friendly positive personality traits that girls may want as well? Sure confidence is good to have, humor is another major one, but you can't say that sincerety and graitification don't count.

Is it an accurate presumption, assumption or statement based on experience with 100000 girls to declare that the millions of other girls out there also all like C&F and fall for the game?

 

[ICaughtFire]

Nonetheless, my main point, for the inquiry whether all girls fall for the C&F or some actually do fall for the AFC, is mostly based on culture.

I live in Asia, and unlike the West, the concept of sex isn't very open here, it's getting there, but getting into bed with a stranger u just met in a club or anywhere in a few dates would announce the capital title of SLUT to the females, and slut is seen as very low here.

Media plays a big part in the world today, the majority of we think, see, and know come primarily from the media through TV, radio, advertisments, magazines, books, internet etc

The issue is, the large portion of the rommantic comedies, fictions, books, TV series and stories here are consumed by the concept of AFC. In these love fairy tales the females always fall for the guys that cares for her the most, confessed how he liked her, brought her thousand gifts etc, and im not surprised after all these media indoctrination that the females were channeled to accept these kinds of behaviors and traits used by what we now called the AFC, who we all agree are destined to fail with women.

 

[ICaughtFire]

So, the big question is, with all these special circumstances, and these girls perceive nothing but these massive media of loves stories with AFC guys, and girls falling hopelessly in love for them, would they taught and brought up to accept AFCness, and reject the C&F, the games etc?

 

[frivolousz21]

just because someone is sweet, caring and romantic with his women..doenst make him a afc.


afc is somene who isnt confident, strong, motivated, in control, a liar, cheater, thief, afc basically arent real men.

real men do whatever they want.
when you give off the VIBE of confidence you can do whatever you want.

 

[Skydiver43127]

The whole concept of "attraction" means the girl will stick around no matter what. An AFC does all the things she expects him to do and that all this romantic Holywood bull**** dictates appropriate. (all the time thinking he is very "sincere", by the way) So presense of attraction cannot be measured while bahaving like an AFC. Only its absence.

 

[GropeDope]

This is a stupid question. Of course there are always exceptions to every rule. There are plenty of girls out there that will like something about you enough to out weigh the fact that you act like a chump. Just ask the last girl I was with for 8 months. She just liked something about me despite the fact that I was like a chump around her most of the time. I don't know why. Maybe she was just a psycho or something.

But apply your question to uglier girls that you wouldn't even waste your time with. In fact...go up to an ugly chick tomorrow...one that you'd rate a 4...and be as AFC as you can. She'll probably be so f*cking shocked that you're actually acknowledging her fat a$$ that she'll start sucking your **** right then and there.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by GropeDope
This is a stupid question. Of course there are always exceptions to every rule. There are plenty of girls out there that will like something about you enough to out weigh the fact that you act like a chump. Just ask the last girl I was with for 8 months. She just liked something about me despite the fact that I was like a chump around her most of the time. I don't know why. Maybe she was just a psycho or something.

But apply your question to uglier girls that you wouldn't even waste your time with. In fact...go up to an ugly chick tomorrow...one that you'd rate a 4...and be as AFC as you can. She'll probably be so f*cking shocked that you're actually acknowledging her fat a$$ that she'll start sucking your **** right then and there.

lmfao, so the dudes that like fatties are in heaven ?

 

[Lost In the Seas]

i have seen HB 7/8 falling for AFC big times, but this is really a regional perpective coz the east do have different sexual/dating values than west, i dont know but it seems like AFC have much better chance of getting a HB 8 here than ur in europe us or can

 

[diplomatic_lies]

In Asia the concepts of "confidence" and "value" still apply, unless you live in some Mongolian rural village.

 

[Jariel]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
just because someone is sweet, caring and romantic with his women..doenst make him a afc.

afc is somene who isnt confident, strong, motivated, in control, a liar, cheater, thief, afc basically arent real men.

I agree with this. The reason many women dislike these AFCs is because they are spineless and manipulative, not because they are genuinely nice people.

I have seen women fall for AFCs many times, but it doesn't take long before she takes him for granted and demotes him to lapdog.

 

[italostud]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
just because someone is sweet, caring and romantic with his women..doenst make him a afc.


afc is somene who isnt confident, strong, motivated, in control, a liar, cheater, thief, afc basically arent real men.

real men do whatever they want.
when you give off the VIBE of confidence you can do whatever you want.

I agree somewhat. I disagree with the "Liar, cheater" part.

Liar, because everyone is a liar to some extent. Actually, some of the most successful people in life are some of the best liars. Lying well is knowing how to manipulate well, and will help you advance in your career, and in life generally.

Children learn how to lie at a very young age. There've been a number of studies that show this. The ability to lie is developed very early on(3 or 4 I think). It is obviously an important part of the human psyche.

Cheater...well, in my opinion, most "afcs" or losers, wouldn't ever consider cheating in a relationship, because it's "wrong". This is why they're "nice guys". These are the kind of guys women pick to marry when they're 35 and all of their best attributes have gone down the drain, and they've already had sex with all of the exciting("alpha") guys. Another reason nice guys don't cheat is because they don't have many options.

"Real men" as you call them have plenty of options because many women find them attractive. A man with plenty of options is very likely to cheat at some point or another. It doesn't mean they don't love their wife/gf whatever. Look at powerful business men, a lot of them have various mistresses, screw their secretaries etc. Why? Because they can. Many of them never get caught though and you never hear about it. So you see a powerful man, who has a happy marriage, and you assume he never cheated...wrong. He's probably had more side-poontang than you can imagine. While the loser/nice guys are being pus*sywhipped in their relationships and basically don't have the option to cheat because of their lower status.



Other than that, great post.

 

[frivolousz21]

"Real men" as you call them have plenty of options because many women find them attractive. A man with plenty of options is very likely to cheat at some point or another. It doesn't mean they don't love their wife/gf whatever. Look at powerful business men, a lot of them have various mistresses, screw their secretaries etc. Why? Because they can. Many of them never get caught though and you never hear about it. So you see a powerful man, who has a happy marriage, and you assume he never cheated...wrong. He's probably had more side-poontang than you can imagine. While the loser/nice guys are being pus*sywhipped in their relationships and basically don't have the option to cheat because of their lower status.

you are correct...and thats why the call it Integridy..some men are better than others.

 

[italostud]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
you are correct...and thats why the call it Integridy..some men are better than others.

Are you talking about honesty when you say integrity?

When a wife asks her husband "Honey, would you sleep with that supermodel on tv if given the chance?" And the husband says "No honey, I couldn't. I love you too much to ever cheat on you". That man is lacking integrity, because he's not being honest.

If you were referring to the moral side of the word 'integrity'. Well, morality is something that is different to every country, culture...every person on the planet.

Sorry, but I don't think you could call this a matter of integrity.

 

[SAYNO]

Originally posted by italostud
I agree somewhat. I disagree with the "Liar, cheater" part.

Liar, because everyone is a liar to some extent.

Cheater...well, in my opinion, most "afcs" or losers, wouldn't ever consider cheating in a relationship, because it's "wrong". This is why they're "nice guys". These are the kind of guys women pick to marry when they're 35 and all of their best attributes have gone down the drain, and they've already had sex with all of the exciting("alpha") guys. Another reason nice guys don't cheat is because they don't have many options.

"Real men" as you call them have plenty of options because many women find them attractive. A man with plenty of options is very likely to cheat at some point or another. It doesn't mean they don't love their wife/gf whatever. Look at powerful business men, a lot of them have various mistresses, screw their secretaries etc. Why? Because they can. Many of them never get caught though and you never hear about it. So you see a powerful man, who has a happy marriage, and you assume he never cheated...wrong. He's probably had more side-poontang than you can imagine. While the loser/nice guys are being pus*sywhipped in their relationships and basically don't have the option to cheat because of their lower status.

 

[frivolousz21]

Sorry, but I don't think you could call this a matter of integrity.

it is diff for every person on what they consider their own standerd.

I would say yes I would pound her if I wasnt with u


in the USA an example of integridy would be..you get married..you dont cheat on your wife regardless

if you commit to a job, person, child.

you go threw with it...no excuses.

 

[italostud]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
it is diff for every person on what they consider their own standerd.

I would say yes I would pound her if I wasnt with u


in the USA an example of integridy would be..you get married..you dont cheat on your wife regardless

if you commit to a job, person, child.

you go threw with it...no excuses.

Your view of life is very black and white. Very simplistic. I feel like I'm arguing with a child.

 

[Lost In the Seas]

i don't know about you guys, but every person has different moral and sets of life values, sure, deep down inside you want to sleep with that model although you are happily married to your wife for two years

And the husband said: "No i wouldn't sleep with her even if given the chance because i love you too much."

Why can't it be true? Of course he wants to do that, but he knows he's commited his love life to the one he's married, and given the chance, despite his heavy desire, he can choose not to have sexual relationship with the models.

You can still be attracted to ladies like a magnet after you are married, but it's your choice to cheat or not, for me, after im married i will never sleep with other women ever, why? Coz i know i love her truly, or else i wouldn't have married her, and i won't make the same mistake my dad did of having an affair and result of a family tragedy

 

[Lost In the Seas]

and no, women doens't like AFC becaue they are manupulative, it's mostly because they call their girl up 5 days a week, an hour convo everytime, give them gifts or roses on every date etc

According to the DJ theory, this makes the boy seems desperate, too needy, portrait them like she is the best girl in the world, and the girl would soon get bored coz afc is no chanllenge

 

[flexion_]

To answer your question... nope.

 

[ICaughtFire]

maybe u can read what the whole thing is about before you answer the question.....