"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The best places to meet women

Domingo1254

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Where do you guys think the best places to meet women are? School and work have both worked out well in the past for me, but times change...i go to a Tech School with a limited supply of ***** and I got an internship (i'm 21) that has landed me working in a firm with a bunch of middle aged (late 30's - early 40's) people.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pappadapolis

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Since work isn't an option:

1. Through friends
2. The Mall
3. Waffle House, IHOP, or someplace like that after the clubs close.
4. Myspace
 

The Forms

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From friends is the best bet.

If you're into talking to girls you've no connection to, I've noticed Petsmart is the place to be. Show up there with your dog, and boom, girls will approach you the whole time.

If you don't have a dog, just look around in an aisle for supplies for your cat/fish whatever you have. If you don't have a pet this might not be the best place. Because if you lie and say you have a dog, she comes over, and there is no dog, you'll look like a wierdo.

It amazes me how easy it is to start a conversation with girls at the pet store. Mindblowing.
 

LA_Chico

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I never even thought of that one bro, good post
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Lust

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One thing you guys missed out...

Beach!

Flocks of women, they are expecting to be hit on though, so play it carefully.
 

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I guess you're kind of screwed at school since you go to a technical college...lol. Im only 16 and I don't know how 21 year olds hook up, but it seems like the easiest way to meet someone would be through friends or hanging out at the places where attractive women around your age go, such as a bar. Watch some chick flicks, see how the characters in there meet eachother. Personally I think that chick flicks are invaluable tools for men since it shows the ideal man and the ideal relationship for most women. Try to get alot of phone numbers.
 

qweretyuiopas

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Friends
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Grocery Store
Certain stores at the mall (perfume, lingerie, shoe)
etc.

Think about places women go to more than men. Grocery store is one of my favs and school
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Just wondering, do you guys mostly look for areas that have an abundance of any type of woman or do you selectively go to places where the type of women you enjoy hang out?
 

qweretyuiopas

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Oh im def selective like i cant stand the mall crowd period, I was just naming stuff to help him, but i do like the grocery store and school though
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pappadapolis

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qweretyuiopas said:
Friends
Library
Grocery Store
Certain stores at the mall (perfume, lingerie, shoe)
etc.

Think about places women go to more than men. Grocery store is one of my favs and school
WTF?!?! Do not go to perfume, lingerie, or shoe stores. Don't believe me, go approach a women in one of these places. That is not Don Juan move, it's a weirdo move. If you approach a woman in a lingerie store, (1) she probably has a man already, (2) she'll think you're a pervert.

You go to the food court or talk to them while they are walking around. You see a girl or some girls sitting down, go sit next to them. Especially if they give you eye contact and smile. If you have food too, even better. Just start a conversation about what they are eating or some other BS.
 
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