The "Bad Girl" and My Religious Right Friends

[liberal]

When I told my religious right friends that I was going to a teen club, you would have thought I told them I was joining the Church of Satan. Such remarks as "there's nothing but sin there" to "I thought you were a good person" came about.

Once there I met a really nice girl and was with her most of the night. We were pretty much acting like boyfriend/girlfriend, some major kino was going on, and we were totally into each other.

However, those same friends are all over my case for getting with a girl who smokes and throws around a few cusswords. Out of the five whom I sit with in the morning, only one gave me congratulations on finding someone. The others were asking me if I was "ready for judgment." Over this? Hell, I know for a fact that one of them has done everything with his girlfriend BUT have sex, and he was even on my case. I told them to mind their own business, and it wasn't like I was trying to get a wife there.

Tell me I'm not the only one who thinks its fine to get with someone who's doesn’t have the "holier than thou" attitude.

 

[Bling]

This isn't politics, read the post next time troll.

 

[Jerky Boi]

If you're into her, then I see no problem. They're just looking out for you like any good Christian would. I mean, friends can only tell you their opinions. If everyone of my friends made decisions for me, I wouldn't be with the person I'm with now. If you're into her, even if they disagree, I see no problem.

 

[Kidd]

Do as you wish.

 

[A&F Brand Cologne]

Originally posted by Bling
Thanks. Politics, just what I was looking for. I swear, liberalism gets worse everyday. Now they're finding ways to mix it in with dating.

what the **** are you talking about? his friends clearly aren't hardcore liberals, they're religion nuts.

If you're into her, then I see no problem. They're just looking out for you like any good Christian would.

No they aren't. They're being overbearing, overzealous lunatic azzholes. He should find new friends who won't judge him so harshly.

 

[familyguyfan]

Originally posted by A&F Brand Cologne
what the **** are you talking about? his friends clearly aren't hardcore liberals, they're religion nuts.



No they aren't. They're being overbearing, overzealous lunatic azzholes. He should find new friends who won't judge him so harshly.

Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you on this one.

Liberal, I don't mean any offense by this, but I would try and find some friends that aren't ready and willing to throw themselves in front of a train for religion. I'm not saying to drop them completely, just to find some that you can relax with and not have to constantly live up to the standards of.

It sounds to me like you don't fully buy into all the stuff they believe in (meaning you're still Christian and you believe in all that good stuff, but you're not all gung-ho about it like they are). So, I say go ahead and do what you want. Don't let their opinions influence your own. While they may just want you to do what's right, their concern isn't necessarily with what is right and good, but more what goes along with their religion (whether or not it truly is right).

 

[Jerky Boi]

Originally posted by familyguyfan
It sounds to me like you don't fully buy into all the stuff they believe in (meaning you're still Christian and you believe in all that good stuff, but you're not all gung-ho about it like they are).

It's all or nothing with religion. If you don't whole heartedly believe in everything in the Bible, then you need to just quit hanging out with your friends you have now. You can't just say, "Well, I'm going to believe in this stuff, but I'm not going to live it."

It's fine to believe what you want, but if you want the approval of the friends you have now, you're not going to get it. They're passionate about their beliefs and that doesn't seem like it's going to change. I suggest to just hang out with different people.

 

[liberal]

The thing about these friends is that they were the only ones who didn't give me a positive message and I was concerned. I was on top of the world, oozing with confidence, and then they had to try and tear me down. It would be different if they were actually devoted, but they act one way one day and another the next. Hypocrisy.

These guys are a totally different sect of Christianity than I am. They're Pentecostal, and I'm a Baptist on the road to conversion to Catholicism. They seem to interpret the Bible on a whole different scale than I do.

I don't think I can totally cut them off, because I'm really good friends with them when religion isn't in the conversation. I'll just see less of them and I tell about my "sinful" weekends at the club to my other more relaxed friends.

Familyguyfan is right. I try my best to lead a Christian life, but I realize that I am not and will not be perfect during my time on Earth. I guess I'm just not as religious as they are.

 

[familyguyfan]

Originally posted by Jerky Boi
It's all or nothing with religion. If you don't whole heartedly believe in everything in the Bible, then you need to just quit hanging out with your friends you have now. You can't just say, "Well, I'm going to believe in this stuff, but I'm not going to live it."

It's fine to believe what you want, but if you want the approval of the friends you have now, you're not going to get it. They're passionate about their beliefs and that doesn't seem like it's going to change. I suggest to just hang out with different people.

Well, the way I see it, it's not a big deal to bend the rules and whatnot a little seeing as the Bible is around 2000 years old, and was only passed down in spoken word for many of those years. So basically I'm also saying it's open for interpretation. There are soe many ways to interpret many of it that there really is no set correct way.

I personally believe that the most important thing is to not hurt yourself and others and that a lot of the other rules in the Bible are "guidelines" on how to do that. If you can manage to follow that basic principle while maybe straying from a couple guidelines, then that's fine.

But, I don't want to make this a religious debate, and I've probably already gone too far, so that's the last I'm gonna say on that.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

If you're into her, then I see no problem. They're just looking out for you like any good Christian would.

And I think his friends are right. You really should be careful about going out with girls that smokes and curse a lot. Girls shouldn't smoke PERIOD! Those are some easy red flags to see right there! she might be nice for now but I bet she could turn into a b|tch any moment!

btw you really shouldn't be complaining about your friends. I wish I had friends that actually cared about me and looked out for me, as many other people wish they had such friends. Consider yourself lucky.

 

[wavejams007]

Sup all U Djs out there. Look, I attend a missionary school here in South America, and while I am not a missionary kid, I do understand a lot of the principles of Christianity. I have read the previous posts, and do have some things to clarify. First of all, familyguyfan has it partially true that the bible does have a lot of parts that are open to interpretation, BUT there are absolute truths(no lieing, cheating, killing, and so on so forth, there are many).
As for the hypocracy, I see that everyday at school. Buty don't buy into the crap that because a lot of Christians are hypocritical, Christianity is. Christianity in regards with God and his church is NOT hypocritical. It is when humans get into it that hypocracy along with many other things get into the picture. Just cocentrate on your relationship with God, and don't worry about the others. Same for the girls, although it is a good thing for your friends to at least some times tell U that some girls are worth dating.
There is not problem in and of itself with going to a teen club, but one question you have to ask yourself is, am I exposing myself to getting addicted to drugs, alcohol, or premarital sex?
After all, who really likes addicts, and do U really want an STD, or to have a child?
At my school, they do not allow dancing, and that is strongly based on Baptist doctrine which I don't agree with. I myself amd between Protestant and Catholic. My family is catholic, and I am to, but I do agree with some of what the protestants have to say. If U do become Catholic, one benefit is, we do allow dancing, and are not as strict as many would make us out to be. I know this is long, but I felt I had to share the info.