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[satelliteparties]

Stop caring about pursuing women. That's right. Read it again.

You'll be a lot happier if women aren't first on your list. A lot of guys on here like to think they aren't an AFC because they get laid occasionally...but they are an AFC in a different way...their life is dedicated to the "next girl." Just because they aren't chasing one girl who isn't interested in them and they occasionally get laid doesn't mean they aren't any less DEPENDENT on women for happiness. If the pvssy ceased to exist and they weren't getting laid, they wouldn't be so happy.

Find a hobby that means more to you than any woman ever will. For me, it's exercising. A lot of guys lift weights and exercise for the wrong reason..."to impress chicks." I do it because I like the burn and breaking a sweat...and seeing results, even small results, and having an end goal that I'd like to achieve, and slowly working my way there.

To be honest, given the choice between having my ideal body, or getting laid with a woman of my choice tomorrow, I'd choose the former.

This is YOUR life. No one (other than family if you're lucky like I am and maybe certain friends) actually give a sh*t about you. Life is a movie. You were given a certain script and told to play a character, but you can change that character any time you want to. Some things you can never change (you can't change your face for example) but I can mold my body into what I want it to be.

The reason women have so much power to begin with isn't just AFCs that svck up to them...it's guys like the ones on this site that will do anything for a lay.

I've discovered this whole new world when women (including the pursuit of sex and "HBs") were put secondary, maybe not even making a top 3 list of things to do in life.

What's even more gratifying is not caring how women perceive me. I know I have a face that doesn't appeal to the majority of young mainstream women and young women in general...I simply don't care because I need time to do the things that really matter.

You might be thinking "You're a hypocrite who spends time looking at porn and masturbating"...wrong...I masturbate maybe once every 2 weeks, and that's just for sport, not out of desperation.

All these guys who say "Up your sex drive" have the wrong idea. Use your male aggression for something USEFUL. Create something. Do something original with your life.

Monkeys have sex for Christ's sake. No one is being "rebellious" by having lots of sex with random people...it's just doing what nature intended.

 

[Mike32ct]

Good post. I'd just like to add one caveat. One of the big SS myths is that if you forget about women and follow your passions, women will chase you. Unless you're good looking, rich, and/or have hobbies that women find fascinating, they will not chase you or be interested in you or your lifestyle. Your hobbies, passions, and goals are for YOU and you only.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I would word it, "Work on yourself first, and have no emotional stake in any one woman."

I think Mike 32ct is on point as an addition to your excellent comments, OP.

 

[satelliteparties]

Thanks guys.

And I agree with what Mike32ct is saying too. The idea isn't to get hobbies so women will find you more interesting. That won't work anyway like he said unless you're good looking or are doing something that they find interesting (musician in a certain type of band, DJ at a club, drug dealer etc.)

I'm not going to say women don't matter to me at all. They just aren't the goal of life or a priority. If you told me 6 months from now I wouldn't get laid or have any dates, I wouldn't be concerned.

The other thing is...I feel like a lot of guys, including myself at one point, are just succumbing more to a woman's power by "sarging" and the like. Even if you don't care about being rejected (which you shouldn't)...what are you getting out of it? Nothing. What is she getting? An ego boost that another guy made advances toward her.

 

[Yo'Mama]

I agree in principle but in my case it's easier said than done. Wanting to have sex is one of the biological urges. Men think about sex hundreds of times a day. It's not so easy just to switch off.

 

[satelliteparties]

I was put on a pill to lower my sex drive, and it has made all the difference. Before, I was the classic guy that literally thought about hot women and sex 99 percent of the day...didn't have any goals in life besides getting laid with a HB10. Now I could care less and am seeing life clearly for the first time since puberty.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Most of the time when I'm in a mood where I don't care about girls, but I'm surrounded by them they flock to me. Happened to me the other night at a party. I was just sitting on my friend's couch drinking a beer, and a FWB who I was sorta ignoring starts making out with her girlfriend right on top of me. It was awesome, but fvck letting them know that! Get them to keep working for you!

Also, fvck chasing girls. If you focus on chasing the girl, you're never going to get her unless you're brad pitt. Do other sh1t with your life, then when you have the opportunity to get laid.. Then go for it!

 

[Yo'Mama]

I was put on a pill to lower my sex drive, and it has made all the difference. Before, I was the classic guy that literally thought about hot women and sex 99 percent of the day...didn't have any goals in life besides getting laid with a HB10. Now I could care less and am seeing life clearly for the first time since puberty.

What kind of pill?

To be honest at this point I'm finding the time, effort and money spent chasing women isn't really worth it in terms of reward. The really weird thing is that when I'm actually f**king them I always think the same thing - 'Is this what it's all been about?'. It feels good of course but not that good, especially not with a damn condom. It's like a junkie spending the whole day trying to scrape together cash for a fix then when he finally gets it, realises that the high isn't even that good.

 

[satelliteparties]

clonapin...anti-anxiety med. the thing is, i have ocd symptoms...so my doctor thought that it went beyond a male interest in women and into obsessive territory where it was taking over my daily life.

i still think about women during the day, still would like to meet women, but i can honestly say if you told me that 6 months from now i wouldn't bang a hottie, i wouldn't really care because i'm that devoted to getting in the best shape i can. i lift every day or at least every other day, and go to the gym and use the machines and cardio 3 days a week. also plan on signing up for some form of karate.

the physical exertion is a great release and you see more results in a quicker amount of time than you would chasing around HB7 pluses.

don't get me wrong...i still want to get laid...and masturbate occasionally...but the urgency isn't there. and when i've approached a few women since june and not gotten any results, i moved on with ease and didn't feel "bitter about the system" or anything.

 

[Mike32ct]

What kind of pill?

To be honest at this point I'm finding the time, effort and money spent chasing women isn't really worth it in terms of reward. The really weird thing is that when I'm actually f**king them I always think the same thing - 'Is this what it's all been about?'. It feels good of course but not that good, especially not with a damn condom. It's like a junkie spending the whole day trying to scrape together cash for a fix then when he finally gets it, realises that the high isn't even that good.

Very true. The physical part (with a condom) isn't that great. I do it more for the ego boost. I'm nearly hitting (or have hit) the wall age-wise in this game, so it's more about proving that I STILL CAN than actually enjoying the s*x. It's more about "another mission accomplished" than actually enjoying the act. Heck, even cuddling with the chick afterwards and having some pillow talk is more enjoyable sometimes than thrusting and grunting like an animal lol.

 

[Yo'Mama]

Yeah Mike I kind of feel the same. It's probably about ego, which is beginning to make me think it's a waste of time.

I made another thread about this but have we hit the wall though (I'm just a year younger than you)? Surely we should be able to easily get the 25-30 year olds.

 

[Mike32ct]

Thanks guys.

And I agree with what Mike32ct is saying too. The idea isn't to get hobbies so women will find you more interesting. That won't work anyway like he said unless you're good looking or are doing something that they find interesting (musician in a certain type of band, DJ at a club, drug dealer etc.)

Exactly. I am ok looking guy with a decent job, car, house, and am working on my masters. I like to travel when I can. I go to Vegas a few times per year and NYC monthly. But the chick at my work thinks "I'm boring." The good looking coworker guy goes mountain biking one weekend, and the other females at work are fascinated and hanging on his every word. We are both living our interests/passions, yet getting very different results with women. I don't care because I do what I want, but I really want to drive this point home.

A hot guy could collect rocks and women would be like, "OMG, that's so fascinating. I've always wanted to learn about that. Will you take me rock hunting sometime ?"

Plus, passion isn't something you can fake. You can't force yourself to participate in something that you aren't interested in just to get women. It's hard enough to become skilled at something that YOU ARE interested in, let alone trying to force yourself that entire way.

So, stick to your TRUE passions no matter what they are. If women don't like it, so be it.

 

[satelliteparties]

For me, it's a couple things...I'll see a girl that's my type and wonder what she looks like with her clothes off. Sure, I could go to a strip club and see a similar or even hotter girl instantly naked...but there's no work involved. Odds are, she doesn't like the fact that you're seeing her naked and you can't touch her anyway...which brings me to my second point...just exploring the naked female body...especially if you're anything like me and were one of those guys in high school, early 20s who even the AVG and UG women didn't go near let alone the cuties and hotties...and wondering all those years what a pair of breasts feels like...then actually being able to roam the body...like the last few posters have said, there's an ego boost to it.

But yeah, I'm a very visual guy...and sometimes I see women with bodies that even compared to other HB bodies look much better in my eyes and want to see it for myself.

 

[Mike32ct]

Yeah Mike I kind of feel the same. It's probably about ego, which is beginning to make me think it's a waste of time.

I made another thread about this but have we hit the wall though (I'm just a year younger than you)? Surely we should be able to easily get the 25-30 year olds.

I read that thread, and it really hit home. My last "young" score was a 26 year old in August of 2010. Lately, it's been exclusively 30somethings. I don't have a problem with that per se, but not many 30something women go out. In nightlife, the lion's share of the women are 20somethings. The only nice thing about 30somethings is it's easier to find lone wolves. Lone wolves in their 20s are VERY rare. Could I still pull a late 20something? Probably under the right conditions.

Have I (or you) truly hit the wall? It is game over? Probably not. It's not game over yet. I was just venting. We can probably stretch this out for a couple more years maybe. That's not the big problem. (If you're still single, what else are you going to do?)

The problem is, how much time to put in it? On one hand, you are correct that it can feel like a waste of time. On the other hand, there isn't that much time left to procrastinate. My advice is work hard and play hard. Your career is number one, but if you have some free time to go out, get your game on man. I run my best game when traveling. When I'm back home, I'm more work focused.

Sorry satelliteparties for the sub-thread, but I wanted to respond to Yo'Mama.

 

[Mike32ct]

Besides the ego boost, getting her naked is a huge part of the thrill of the game. Some NYC player once described it as, "...unwrapping a present." I agree. It is sort of like that.

For me, it's a couple things...I'll see a girl that's my type and wonder what she looks like with her clothes off. Sure, I could go to a strip club and see a similar or even hotter girl instantly naked...but there's no work involved. Odds are, she doesn't like the fact that you're seeing her naked and you can't touch her anyway...which brings me to my second point...just exploring the naked female body...especially if you're anything like me and were one of those guys in high school, early 20s who even the AVG and UG women didn't go near let alone the cuties and hotties...and wondering all those years what a pair of breasts feels like...then actually being able to roam the body...like the last few posters have said, there's an ego boost to it.

But yeah, I'm a very visual guy...and sometimes I see women with bodies that even compared to other HB bodies look much better in my eyes and want to see it for myself.

 

[Yo'Mama]

Yeah I would say for me too the 30's crowd are easiest to get but can still get girls in twenties - just takes a bit more work. I look younger than I am which helps I suppose.

I have no idea what I want at the moment. I think ideally I'd want the rockstar, getting a different 8 or 9 every week type lifestyle. But that's not going to happen. Neither do I particularly want to settle down (it's pretty easy for me to find an 8 or 9 for settling down as opposed to casual fun). I really don't know.

Yeah Satellite Parties - sorry to hijack the thread!

 

[Fumbduck]

I'm happy with myself and where i'm going. It's now time to find a good girl. (or a few to have some fun with while i'm looking for one that fits the mold)