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The 50 percent divorce rate statistic is a myth

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YawataNoKami said:
Sure cupcake.
Clown who speaks on negative opinions.


sharkbeat said:
Fast forward to present: what is marriage? There is nothing 'sacred' anymore. People can divorce just like that. No social stigma with a divorce. As a matter of fact, people will throw a party when their friends get a divorce!

In reality it's been that way for a while. Divorces are easy to get and some people treat it as a relationship. A lot of people have good strong marriages and nobody ever talks about that. Only they want to talk about divorces and how marriage is bad. People that never even had a long term relationship hate on marriages assuming they will be divorced.




sharkbeat said:
From what I have gotten from this forum, it's not that the guys here are against marriage, it's just that the landscape has changed so much that the definition of marriage has skewed so far off from the original, that it's such a bad idea for men to get married. The society should have been the fallback net if someone's marriage is falling apart. The society should have been their support to keep their marriage intact. But that's not the case anymore. The society is actually encouraging the opposite, and that's breaking apart families, and men become the victims of this fracture.

I've seen plenty of negativity about relationships and marriages from MGTOW's calling men betas here. Most of them against marriage only listen to the negativity believing it will happen to them. Basing their opinions on a fictional narrative because that is what they want it to be. Children that come from a solid two parent home turn out better in life and that is a fact. Sure families break apart but not all of them do. It's always been that way.





The Real Threat To Marriage


Some believe marriage is on its way out – a dying institution, a global failure. But is it really? Have we been bamboozled by easy-release figures that support pessimistic attitudes about God’s design for human relationships?

With more than half of marriages ending in divorce in and out of the church, we can only expect an escalating trend to continue, right? The 50% divorce rate stat has spread far and wide. And it has wielded a heavy dose of disillusionment along the way.

However, according to author Shaunti Feldhahn, a Harvard University trained Wall Street analyst and social researcher, the truth about marriage and divorce presents an altogether fresh and surprisingly hopeful picture. In her book The Good News about Marriage: Debunking Discouraging Myths about Marriage and Divorce, she contends, “Divorce is not the biggest threat to marriage. Discouragement is.” She believes the widespread sense of hopelessness is brought on, at least in part, by false information.

But how can this be? Where did the 50% number come from? It has streamed from every outlet. The question rattled through Feldhahn’s thoughts as she struggled to complete an article. What started as a simple task to source the commonly accepted stat turned into exasperation and an eight year research project that she describes as “a rigorous, fair, and accurate attempt to reclaim a whole other side of the truth about marriage.”

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She has finally discovered the divorce rate in America is nowhere close to 50%. And it never has been. As a matter of fact, the rate has been steadily declining since 1980. In reality, 71% of women are still married to their first spouse. And widowhood reduces the remaining 29%, bringing us to an approximate 25% divorce rate for first marriages.

Additionally, Feldhahn told AFA Journal, the rate of divorce is not the same among Christians. Previously reported numbers were based solely on belief systems (stated religion) and not whether those beliefs were actually being practiced in their lives. With the help of Barna Group’s comprehensive research from 2008, Feldhahn and her staff were able to incorporate participants’ answers about church attendance. The results revealed a 27% decrease in the number of divorces among those who had been to church in the last seven days.

Landmark findings by the National Survey of Families and Households between 1987 and 1994 revealed a 50% lesser occasion of divorce among those who share the same faith and attend church. A Family Life Family Needs Survey among more than 50 churches in 2012-2013 found that only 22% of those ever married had been divorced. Numbers vary, but no matter which way you cut it, divorce in the church is lower. And divorce overall is much lower than the numbers pushed by secular media and others.

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Peña said:
Nothing here but a MGTOW with his negative opinions about marriage. It takes a sheep like you to believe the worst of something you were never part of. You blindly go along with the other sheep who say the same narratives, that is what a sheep does. They all follow along believing in fictional narratives of marriage because they can't achieve it themselves. So they become angry and tear it down to feel better.
Only a moron believes marriage is an "achievement". You sound idiotic. :crackup: :crackup:

Marriage is dumb and there is no logical argument that proves otherwise. Which is why all you can do is cry and whine "MGTOW bad!" like some small child.
 

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I actually think the divorce rate is higher than 50%. I've seen a lot of studies where they follow a marriage, come back five years later, "Still married?", okay you're a success. But maybe they get divorced after 10 years.
 

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Poon King said:
Only a moron believes marriage is an "achievement". You sound idiotic. :crackup: :crackup:
You are idiotic. Most foreign cultures and past societies classified marriage as an achievement for successful life. It was considered noble to be married and all high upper class men were married. Kings had Queens and passed the throne down to the son to take over as ruler. What would a MGTOW King pass down? Nothing, since he has nobody to hand it to. Marriage was always a strong pillar of our society and a few feminists and MGTOWS want to change that to fit their fictional narrative of a broken society with no direction but blowing in the wind aimlessly.


Poon King said:
Marriage is dumb and there is no logical argument that proves otherwise. Which is why all you can do is cry and whine "MGTOW bad!" like some small child.
That is your own personal opinion that marriage is bad. When you can't get women who want to be with you long term that's what happens. The majority of the world disagrees with you. Millions of people who married for centuries disagree with your fictional narrative. You have nothing to prove that marriage is bad except to use other people's misfortunes as your claim using shaming tatics for your claim.

You're the one whining and crying about marriage being bad. Calling men betas and fags in every thread for being in a marriage or long term relationship. That is all you got for your claims. Nothing that accounts for anything.

I've never said once that MGTOW is bad. I believe them to be social outcasts who want to drift away from life and society. They don't drift away going their own way, they stay around to complain and shame men for doing what they refuse to do. If you're so happy going your way, why all the anger and resentment towards happy married men and men in relationships? You shame them and call them names wanting them to be angry like you dropping out. None of this would ever be mentioned if it wasn't for people like you shaming men for doing their natural roles. And you have the nerve to complain on that?




zekko said:
I actually think the divorce rate is higher than 50%. I've seen a lot of studies where they follow a marriage, come back five years later, "Still married?", okay you're a success. But maybe they get divorced after 10 years.

You said maybe, so you're basing your opinion on uncertainty like the others. After 10 years of marriage, it is the least likely of a divorce. Anything after 5 years is a less chance of divorce. Divorce is more common in the first 5 years, usually the third year.

There is no definitive proof for a 50 percent divorce rate. All studies show it never came close to 50% using flawed calculations to get that number. Educated women are divorcing less and more women are educated today. The stat said 71% of women still are married to their first husband. The divorce rate has been in decline since 1980. So it is not even close to 50% when there is no raw numbers to show it.
 

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Well it might not be 50%, but it's close to it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/04/us-divorce-rate_n_4184261.html

The problem is just that marriage isn't fair for the men. So even when I read the statistic that first marriages have a fail rate of 20-25%, it doesn't change the fact that pretty much it's a really bad proposition for men.

Fruthermore, it doesn't mean that overall, divorce will not happen 50% of the time

What are the benefits of being married that I don't have now ? Besides Poon King has a point that you haven't addressed. There's no logical argument proving that marriage is necessary, especially in a world where we don't fix anything we replace (Tinder, Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat etc) and where woman are pretty much in God-mode.

I'm not risking my well-being by being with a woman hoping that she does not do the bait and switch on me.

The best way to win a game that's not fair, is not to play at all
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Marriage has become an outdated tradition. I have a very hard time finding a girl that acts in a way that I would consider acceptable for marriage. Most girls these days crave attention so badly that they post half naked pictures all over the internet (not marriage material), they almost all have fvcked double digit guys and up. I was talking to the chef at a benihana style place and he was saying how a 22 year old girl he was talking to earlier that night had fvcked somewhere around 90 guys. And she will probably still find some poor guy who will never know that to be the case and marry her whenever she decides shes had enough d1ck. Way too many girls are just complete wh0res now. My ex had been with 2 guys before me, that is acceptable, but after we were through she was above 20 in just a few months. Why the fvck would I want to commit to a girl that has fvcked so many guys? So I can be committed to taking care of their leftovers for the rest of her life?

The reason marriage used to work is because a man would give up the resources he had to offer (time, money, protection) to have a girl that was HIS. The whole thing about buying an expensive ring when you marry a girl is to give her something of value incase things dont work out after you take her virginity. So why do girls these days expect a ring still? What are they giving to us men when we commit to them alone?

Even just back 100 years ago, a woman couldnt go around fvcking the whole town without it being known that she is not marriage material. Now they can have all the fun they want with only their girlfriends knowing what they do while men have no for sure way of knowing which of the girls they are dating have been with 30+ guys, we can only go off their word.

Speaking of happiness and marriage: My dad is very unhappy with his marriage, he also just recently told me about a guy he worked with who was so unhappy with his marriage that when he found out he had brain cancer he didnt want to do anything about it, just die (about 55 years old). I hear way too many of my dads friends talk about their unhappy marriages and rarely hear positive stories.

Just too many negatives and not enough positives these days with regards to marriage.
 

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Peña said:
You are idiotic. Most foreign cultures and past societies classified marriage as an achievement for successful life. It was considered noble to be married and all high upper class men were married. Kings had Queens and passed the throne down to the son to take over as ruler. What would a MGTOW King pass down? Nothing, since he has nobody to hand it to. Marriage was always a strong pillar of our society and a few feminists and MGTOWS want to change that to fit their fictional narrative of a broken society with no direction but blowing in the wind aimlessly.
This is 2015 not 1300 B.C. you blithering idiot.

You are like someone who won't use a computer because your grandfather used a carrier pigeon to communicate. You sound stupid. :crackup:
 

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Poon King said:
This is 2015 not 1300 B.C. you blithering idiot.

You are like someone who won't use a computer because your grandfather used a carrier pigeon to communicate. You sound stupid. :crackup:
Peña is a woman. Do not waste your time.
 

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Well it might not be 50%, but it's close to it.

The problem is just that marriage isn't fair for the men. So even when I read the statistic that first marriages have a fail rate of 20-25%, it doesn't change the fact that pretty much it's a really bad proposition for men.

Fruthermore, it doesn't mean that overall, divorce will not happen 50% of the time"

It is no where near 50%. No stats show anything near 50% with divorce in decline. 71% of women are still married to their first husband. That is a high percentage and you focus on the 20-25% of failed marriages to fit your fictional narrative.

The article shows nothing about a 50% divorce rate. It only shows ranked cities with the highest divorce rates. You use the negative of marriage for your claim on why you can't get married. Hypotheticals is the only thing you have for your dead argument. Those guy got divorced so it might happen to me too and that is your whole dead argument. Fear of risk and loss rules your lives and i bet you guys don't even have anything to lose.

badboyjmm said:
I'm not risking my well-being by being with a woman hoping that she does not do the bait and switch on me.

The best way to win a game that's not fair, is not to play at all
Look at this fear you have. More fear of loss and risk. Already assuming the worst of bad things happening to you when it might not. Women scare you that much? Do you fear bad thing might happen to you all day? I can't go outside I might get hurt. I can't go in a store I might pick up germs. I can't walk down the street I might get robbed. I can't get married I might get divorced. All hypotheticals based on fear when it never happened.

Why don't you zero in on happy successful marriages who have great families? That would destroy your fictional narrative of marriage being bad. You need to zero in on the bad making excuses to why you can't get married to support your fictional narrative of marriage being bad.

badboyjmm said:
What are the benefits of being married that I don't have now ? Besides Poon King has a point that you haven't addressed. There's no logical argument proving that marriage is necessary, especially in a world where we don't fix anything we replace (Tinder, Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat etc) and where woman are pretty much in God-mode.

Did your parents ever get married?

No matter what I say you are going to disagree with it. If you are afraid to get marriedthen don't get married. Don't attack something that you never done. You have no experience with it to complain about it. You assume it will fail off the bat withoit knowing anything. That is a dead argument.

Having two married parents is essential for the well being of children. Children coming from single mother are far less better off. Boys have no father figure to guide and teach them turning into betas. Girls turn into feminists or screwed up later in life where guys like you complain about them on facebook and twitter.

If nobody got married and produced our human race would become extinct. If the white population deceases in birth rate it will slide becoming a major minority.

All powerful men get married and hand down their holdings to the sons to carry on. What are you going hand down when you have nothing? Are you going to take everything you own to the grave with you?


dk1990S111 said:
Marriage has become an outdated tradition.
So that is your opinion. All you guys speak the same. Marriage is at the forefront of every single religion and it is not outdated when the basic purpose of humans is to marry and reproduce continuing on civilization to the next generation. A small portion of fringe society sees it different wanting to change what society has done for centuries to change what they want it to be.

dk1990S111 said:
I have a very hard time finding a girl that acts in a way that I would consider acceptable for marriage.
So what? That doesn't mean other men don't. You have many years to find a girl that is acceptable.


dk1990S111 said:
Most girls these days crave attention so badly that they post half naked pictures all over the internet (not marriage material), they almost all have fvcked double digit guys and up.
Most of those girls are coming from single mother homes who are screwed up. You guys are against marriage but complain about women's behavior but you condone no marriage. That is what you have in a marriageless society today, screwed up women with no direction or guidance from parents teaching them. That is what you guys want and you have the nerve to complain about it.


dk1990S111 said:
I was talking to the chef at a benihana style place and he was saying how a 22 year old girl he was talking to earlier that night had fvcked somewhere around 90 guys. And she will probably still find some poor guy who will never know that to be the case and marry her whenever she decides shes had enough d1ck.
Using the negative of some girl's behavior to support your fictional narrative of marriage. She tells guys the exact number of men she's fvcked? So you don't know for sure saying only 'probably' to fit the fictional narrative of your dead argument for marriage.

dk1990S111 said:
Way too many girls are just complete wh0res now.
So were they back in the 70's when the divorce rate was at the highest. :crackup:

dk1990S111 said:
Speaking of happiness and marriage: My dad is very unhappy with his marriage, he also just recently told me about a guy he worked with who was so unhappy with his marriage that when he found out he had brain cancer he didn't want to do anything about it, just die (about 55 years old). I hear way too many of my dads friends talk about their unhappy marriages and rarely hear positive stories.
A couple of people are unhappy with marriage and you want to assume everyone is unhappy. Anyone can find the negative on anything to support their argument why something is bad. All of you do that for your dead argument on marriage. Not one of you have been married but you know it all and assume the worst will happen to you. :crackup:


Poon King said:
This is 2015 not 1300 B.C. you blithering idiot.

You are like someone who won't use a computer because your grandfather used a carrier pigeon to communicate. You sound stupid. :crackup:
The only idiot here is you since you only have insults for an answer.


YawataNoKami said:
Peña is a woman. Do not waste your time.
You're full of sh1t. Alll MGTOW can do is accuse and shame when their fictional narrative is destroyed.
 

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So even when I read the statistic that first marriages have a fail rate of 20-25%, it doesn't change the fact that pretty much it's a really bad proposition for men.
I don't have any data to back this up, but I find it very, very hard to believe that the fail rate for first marriages is only around 20%. That would mean that if you grew up and got married, your odds of staying together would be 80%. If that were really true, I don't think there would be so many guys complaining about how marriages can't last these days.

Like I said, I don't have data to back me up, but most people I know have been married multiple times. If the marital success rate was really around 20%, most people would still be on their first marriage.

I think it's very difficult to gather statistics on divorce. You can talk to a couple that's married today and count them as a success, but two years from now they might be divorced. Few studies follow couples for their entire lifetime, and even if they did, by the time the data was collected, it would be outdated. A lot of people get divorced after 10, 20, even 50 years.
 

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Danger said:
Pena,

Still waiting for you to list the benefits men get from marriage which they cannot otherwise get from a non-marriage relationship.

When will you be providing this list in order to entice MGTOW back to marriage?
Haha forget about that list Danger, seem like Pena wants to argue for the sake of arguing. Also the fact that Pena cannot provide a list explains everything you need to know. You cannot have a serious debate if all you do is taking opinions and try to present them as facts

The idea I should try something that's a pretty bad deal only on the premise that I haven't tried it is ridiculous. I mean I don't need to put my hand on a fire element to know that I will burn myself lol

Children are definitely better off with the two parents being together, doesn't necessary mean that they need to be married. So your point that marriage is essential is also false.

A marriage is not a guarantee of anything. Like zekko pointed out, a divorce can happen in the long haul too. But then again, I should focus on happy marriages...

Look if anyone wants to be married and find happiness, by all means go ahead. Marriage is a gamble that I'm not willing to take.
 

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Peña said:
Having two married parents is essential for the well being of children. Children coming from single mother are far less better off. Boys have no father figure to guide and teach them turning into betas. Girls turn into feminists or screwed up later in life where guys like you complain about them on facebook and twitter.

So that is your opinion. All you guys speak the same. Marriage is at the forefront of every single religion and it is not outdated when the basic purpose of humans is to marry and reproduce continuing on civilization to the next generation. A small portion of fringe society sees it different wanting to change what society has done for centuries to change what they want it to be.

Most of those girls are coming from single mother homes who are screwed up. You guys are against marriage but complain about women's behavior but you condone no marriage. That is what you have in a marriageless society today, screwed up women with no direction or guidance from parents teaching them. That is what you guys want and you have the nerve to complain about it.
Using the whole "marriageis at the forefront of every religion" just tells me you really dont see things for how they really are. By saying that I have to assume that you are religious and Im sorry but religion is in the same boat as marriage as far as I am concerned, useful a long time ago but we as humans are smarter than that now and need to wake up and realize that all religion is good for is dividing people, controlling people, and taking their money. The bible is a good story from a time when people thought the world was flat, they had no idea about dinosaurs, the sun revolved around the Earth, etc.

Marriage worked back then but the world has changed and women have lost their way. They want equality and in turn they want to act like the men they imagine. They want to fvck around with several partners and not feel any shame, because thats what men do. Well that wont work for me and I dont see why any guy would want to tie himself down to a downright wh0re. I know of one girl that refuses to have sex outside of relationships (which is how it should be imo if they have any plan on ever getting married).

And I dont know if you have taken a look around Pena but there are very few quality girls out there in my age group (in my area atleast). Most of these girls have families with both parents but yet they are still wh0ring themselves around.

And you saying that the problem with the girls (and boys) growing up these days is that they come from a single mother home. So with so many girls being fvcked in the head nowadays, that in turn says that the divorce rate must be atleast 50%, maybe even 75%.
 

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Look if anyone wants to be married and find happiness, by all means go ahead. Marriage is a gamble that I'm not willing to take.
:yes: :yes: I grew up thinking marriage is a normal part of life and always planned on it, but know with everything I know I just cant say that I have any intention of getting married. Only way it will happen is if I meet some amazing girl that slipped through the cracks somehow and never went full wh0re mode. I just cant and wont commit myself to the girls out there these days. I am kinda old fashioned in the way that I want an innocent girl, which seem to be few and far between these days.
 

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You are idiotic. Most foreign cultures and past societies classified marriage as an achievement for successful life. It was considered noble to be married and all high upper class men were married. Kings had Queens and passed the throne down to the son to take over as ruler. What would a MGTOW King pass down? Nothing, since he has nobody to hand it to. Marriage was always a strong pillar of our society and a few feminists and MGTOWS want to change that to fit their fictional narrative of a broken society with no direction but blowing in the wind aimlessly
Delusional, Marriage is nothing more than a tradition it is not a requirement for the evolution of species, you don't need to be married to be in love or have kids.
 

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Peña said:
It is no where near 50%. No stats show anything near 50% with divorce in decline. 71% of women are still married to their first husband. That is a high percentage and you focus on the 20-25% of failed marriages to fit your fictional narrative.

The article shows nothing about a 50% divorce rate. It only shows ranked cities with the highest divorce rates. You use the negative of marriage for your claim on why you can't get married. Hypotheticals is the only thing you have for your dead argument. Those guy got divorced so it might happen to me too and that is your whole dead argument. Fear of risk and loss rules your lives and i bet you guys don't even have anything to lose.



Look at this fear you have. More fear of loss and risk. Already assuming the worst of bad things happening to you when it might not. Women scare you that much? Do you fear bad thing might happen to you all day? I can't go outside I might get hurt. I can't go in a store I might pick up germs. I can't walk down the street I might get robbed. I can't get married I might get divorced. All hypotheticals based on fear when it never happened.

Why don't you zero in on happy successful marriages who have great families? That would destroy your fictional narrative of marriage being bad. You need to zero in on the bad making excuses to why you can't get married to support your fictional narrative of marriage being bad.




Did your parents ever get married?

No matter what I say you are going to disagree with it. If you are afraid to get marriedthen don't get married. Don't attack something that you never done. You have no experience with it to complain about it. You assume it will fail off the bat withoit knowing anything. That is a dead argument.

Having two married parents is essential for the well being of children. Children coming from single mother are far less better off. Boys have no father figure to guide and teach them turning into betas. Girls turn into feminists or screwed up later in life where guys like you complain about them on facebook and twitter.

If nobody got married and produced our human race would become extinct. If the white population deceases in birth rate it will slide becoming a major minority.

All powerful men get married and hand down their holdings to the sons to carry on. What are you going hand down when you have nothing? Are you going to take everything you own to the grave with you?




So that is your opinion. All you guys speak the same. Marriage is at the forefront of every single religion and it is not outdated when the basic purpose of humans is to marry and reproduce continuing on civilization to the next generation. A small portion of fringe society sees it different wanting to change what society has done for centuries to change what they want it to be.



So what? That doesn't mean other men don't. You have many years to find a girl that is acceptable.




Most of those girls are coming from single mother homes who are screwed up. You guys are against marriage but complain about women's behavior but you condone no marriage. That is what you have in a marriageless society today, screwed up women with no direction or guidance from parents teaching them. That is what you guys want and you have the nerve to complain about it.




Using the negative of some girl's behavior to support your fictional narrative of marriage. She tells guys the exact number of men she's fvcked? So you don't know for sure saying only 'probably' to fit the fictional narrative of your dead argument for marriage.



So were they back in the 70's when the divorce rate was at the highest. :crackup:



A couple of people are unhappy with marriage and you want to assume everyone is unhappy. Anyone can find the negative on anything to support their argument why something is bad. All of you do that for your dead argument on marriage. Not one of you have been married but you know it all and assume the worst will happen to you. :crackup:




The only idiot here is you since you only have insults for an answer.




You're full of sh1t. Alll MGTOW can do is accuse and shame when their fictional narrative is destroyed.
Here you go cupcake:

Are you looking for divorce rate statistics or marriage divorce statistics? Then you are at the right place.

Divorce Statistics in America
Current divorce statistics in America is estimated at 50%. Commonly said, 50% of all marriages in the America end in divorce. But this statement about the divorce statistics in America hides all the details about distribution, however, you can also checkout this divorce statistics page for the latest information.

Age at marriage for those who divorce in America
Age Women Men
Under 20 years old 27.6% 11.7%
20 to 24 years old 36.6% 38.8%
25 to 29 years old 16.4% 22.3%
30 to 34 years old 8.5% 11.6%
35 to 39 years old 5.1% 6.5%
Divorce Statistics in America for Marriage
Marriage Divorce statistics (in percent)
First Marriage 45% to 50% marriages end in divorce
Second Marriage 60% to 67% marriages end in divorce
Third Marriage 70% to 73% marriages end in divorce
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Jennifer Baker, Forest Institute of Professional Psychology, Springfield
Enrichment journal also gives similar divorce statistics in America:

The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%
The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%
The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%

Children of Divorce Statistics
According to discovery channel, couples with children have a slightly lower rate of divorce than childless couples. Sociologists also believe that childlessness is also a common cause of divorce. The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness. In the United States, at least 66 per cent of all divorced couples are childless.

Divorcing Couples Divorce Rate Statistics (in percent)
Couples With Children 40%
Couples Without Children 66%
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Discover Channel
Per capita divorce rate statistics from 1990 to 2010

Year Per Capita Divorce Rate Statistics
1991 0.47%
1992 0.48%
1993 0.46%
1994 0.46%
1995 0.46%
1996 0.43%
1997 0.43%
1998 0.42%
1999 0.41%
2000 0.41%
2001 0.40%
2002 0.39%
2003 0.38%
2004 0.37%
2005 0.36%
2006 0.37%
2007 0.36%
2008 0.35%
2009 0.35%
2010 0.36%
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Americans for Divorce Reform
Provisional number of divorces and annulments and rate: United States, 2000-2010
Year Divorces and Annulments Population Rate per 1,000 total population
2010 872000 244122529 3.6
2009 840000 242610561 3.5
2008 844000 240545163 3.5
2007 856000 238352850 3.6
2006 872000 236094277 3.7
2005 847000 233495163 3.6
2004 879000 236402656 3.7
2003 927000 243902090 3.8
2002 955000 243108303 3.9
2001 940000 236416762 4
2000 944000 233550143 4
Excludes data for California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, and Minnesota
Excludes data for California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, and Louisiana
Excludes data for California, Hawaii, Indiana, and Oklahoma
Excludes data for California, Indiana, and Oklahoma
Excludes data for California, Indiana, Louisiana, and Oklahoma
Note: Rates for 2001-2009 have been revised and are based on intercensal population estimates from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. Populations for 2010 rates are based on the 2010 census.

Other stats related to divorce

Description Statistics
State with the lowest divorce rate Massachusetts (2.4 per 1,000 population)
State with the highest divorce rate Nevada (9.1 per 1,000 population)
Percentage of US population that is divorced 10%
Mean age at first divorce For Males: 30.5 yrs.
For Females: 29 yrs.
Median age at second divorce For Males: 39.3 yrs.
For Females: 37 yrs.
Median number of years people wait to remarry after their first divorce For Males: 3.3 yrs.
For Females: 3.1 yrs.
Average length of divorce proceedings 1 year.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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YawataNoKami said:
Here you go cupcake:

Are you looking for divorce rate statistics or marriage divorce statistics? Then you are at the right place.

Divorce Statistics in America
Current divorce statistics in America is estimated at 50%. Commonly said, 50% of all marriages in the America end in divorce. But this statement about the divorce statistics in America hides all the details about distribution, however, you can also checkout this divorce statistics page for the latest information.

Age at marriage for those who divorce in America
Age Women Men
Under 20 years old 27.6% 11.7%
20 to 24 years old 36.6% 38.8%
25 to 29 years old 16.4% 22.3%
30 to 34 years old 8.5% 11.6%
35 to 39 years old 5.1% 6.5%
Divorce Statistics in America for Marriage
Marriage Divorce statistics (in percent)
First Marriage 45% to 50% marriages end in divorce
Second Marriage 60% to 67% marriages end in divorce
Third Marriage 70% to 73% marriages end in divorce
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Jennifer Baker, Forest Institute of Professional Psychology, Springfield
Enrichment journal also gives similar divorce statistics in America:

The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%
The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%
The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%

Children of Divorce Statistics
According to discovery channel, couples with children have a slightly lower rate of divorce than childless couples. Sociologists also believe that childlessness is also a common cause of divorce. The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness. In the United States, at least 66 per cent of all divorced couples are childless.

Divorcing Couples Divorce Rate Statistics (in percent)
Couples With Children 40%
Couples Without Children 66%
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Discover Channel
Per capita divorce rate statistics from 1990 to 2010

Year Per Capita Divorce Rate Statistics
1991 0.47%
1992 0.48%
1993 0.46%
1994 0.46%
1995 0.46%
1996 0.43%
1997 0.43%
1998 0.42%
1999 0.41%
2000 0.41%
2001 0.40%
2002 0.39%
2003 0.38%
2004 0.37%
2005 0.36%
2006 0.37%
2007 0.36%
2008 0.35%
2009 0.35%
2010 0.36%
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Americans for Divorce Reform
Provisional number of divorces and annulments and rate: United States, 2000-2010
Year Divorces and Annulments Population Rate per 1,000 total population
2010 872000 244122529 3.6
2009 840000 242610561 3.5
2008 844000 240545163 3.5
2007 856000 238352850 3.6
2006 872000 236094277 3.7
2005 847000 233495163 3.6
2004 879000 236402656 3.7
2003 927000 243902090 3.8
2002 955000 243108303 3.9
2001 940000 236416762 4
2000 944000 233550143 4
Excludes data for California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, and Minnesota
Excludes data for California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, and Louisiana
Excludes data for California, Hawaii, Indiana, and Oklahoma
Excludes data for California, Indiana, and Oklahoma
Excludes data for California, Indiana, Louisiana, and Oklahoma
Note: Rates for 2001-2009 have been revised and are based on intercensal population estimates from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. Populations for 2010 rates are based on the 2010 census.

Other stats related to divorce

Description Statistics
State with the lowest divorce rate Massachusetts (2.4 per 1,000 population)
State with the highest divorce rate Nevada (9.1 per 1,000 population)
Percentage of US population that is divorced 10%
Mean age at first divorce For Males: 30.5 yrs.
For Females: 29 yrs.
Median age at second divorce For Males: 39.3 yrs.
For Females: 37 yrs.
Median number of years people wait to remarry after their first divorce For Males: 3.3 yrs.
For Females: 3.1 yrs.
Average length of divorce proceedings 1 year.

Stats here are not accurate. There is no way to determine those stats to be accurate. Every State does not report divorce rate statistics. Single adults and children are totaled into census data making the numbers flawed. There is no definitive raw number that shows a 50% divorce rate. It only shows the percentage of a likely divorce from 1-3 years with innacurate stats. After the 5th year divorce declines. Try again to keep making your negative point on marriage.
 

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MGTOW and feminists wants a marriageless society promoting fringe liberal ideas of creating unwanted children to grow up resentful in life. Normal society always had a strong foundation of a good family unit. These fringe groupers want to turn that upside down because they hate marriage. Feminists hate men and MGTOW hate women and want others to follow them like a herd of sheep. There are millions of great marriages with great families but no one ever talks about them. They only focus on the negative to fit their fictional narrative.

All powerful men marry and have children to keep the family generation moving. Powerful men rule society and hand over the power to the sons to take over when they retire or die. What would you guys have? Nothing to complete life moving your generations forward.



PeasantPlayer said:
Delusional, Marriage is nothing more than a tradition it is not a requirement for the evolution of species, you don't need to be married to be in love or have kids.
Your crazy opinion. Just make a kid that has no loving parents to guide and teach them? Have some single mother raise a kid that isn't wanted? That's why we have a crazy society today with no direction in life. Women turning out to be wh0res and men being betas with no parents in their life. Children want and need parents in their life to learn and grow. You're trying to turn society into a social outcast group with no direction.


dk1990S111 said:
:yes: :yes: I grew up thinking marriage is a normal part of life and always planned on it, but know with everything I know I just cant say that I have any intention of getting married. Only way it will happen is if I meet some amazing girl that slipped through the cracks somehow and never went full wh0re mode. I just cant and wont commit myself to the girls out there these days. I am kinda old fashioned in the way that I want an innocent girl, which seem to be few and far between these days.
Using fear making more assumptions to fit your fictional narrative.




dk1990S111 said:
Using the whole "marriageis at the forefront of every religion" just tells me you really dont see things for how they really are. By saying that I have to assume that you are religious and Im sorry but religion is in the same boat as marriage as far as I am concerned, useful a long time ago but we as humans are smarter than that now and need to wake up and realize that all religion is good for is dividing people, controlling people, and taking their money. The bible is a good story from a time when people thought the world was flat, they had no idea about dinosaurs, the sun revolved around the Earth, etc.
The only religion dividing people is the kooky evangelicals who breed hate. Every chld needs two parents to teach them and to become successful. Children that come from unwed parents or single mother homes are resentful they never had two parents. And you want that for each child with your position you take. Those children grow up to have problems later in life.





dk1990S111 said:
Marriage worked back then but the world has changed and women have lost their way. They want equality and in turn they want to act like the men they imagine. They want to fvck around with several partners and not feel any shame, because thats what men do. Well that wont work for me and I dont see why any guy would want to tie himself down to a downright wh0re. I know of one girl that refuses to have sex outside of relationships (which is how it should be imo if they have any plan on ever getting married).
Some women do that, yes, but not all. Again you take the negative of it and use it to fit your fictional narrative of your dead argument. 1 out of every 4 men can get prostate cancer. Does that mean you are going to get it with the bad stats? Does that mean any of us are going to get it since the rate is high?


dk1990S111 said:
And I dont know if you have taken a look around Pena but there are very few quality girls out there in my age group (in my area atleast). Most of these girls have families with both parents but yet they are still wh0ring themselves around.

And you saying that the problem with the girls (and boys) growing up these days is that they come from a single mother home. So with so many girls being fvcked in the head nowadays, that in turn says that the divorce rate must be atleast 50%, maybe even 75%.
All you do is make up figures and negativity to fit your fictional narrative of marriage being bad. Now its 75%? Why don't you make it 100% and cancel out marriage forever. :crackup:


Danger said:
Still waiting on that list of marriage benefits Pena.

You spend so much time posting personal attacks but have a truly difficult time posting this evidence.
You are a liar. Nowhere am I attacking. No matter what I say you are going to blame feminists, evil society, women chaging like you did in all our previous discussions with whatever I said. So it is a waste of my time to do that when you're going to blame feminists to fit your fictional narrative on everything.

You hate marriage and will use any excuse to defend why you can't get married. That is what you did in our whole discussion before. You will do it again right now too to fit your fictional narrative of marriage being bad. It's wasting my time when you use cheap excuses for everything.
 
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Whether or not you favor marriage as a social institution, there's no denying that it confers many rights, protections, and benefits -- both legal and practical. Some of these vary from state to state, but the list typically includes:

Tax Benefits
•Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
•Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning Benefits
•Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
•Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
•Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
•Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Government Benefits
•Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
•Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
•Receiving public assistance benefits.

Employment Benefits
•Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
•Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
•Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
•Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Medical Benefits
•Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
•Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death Benefits
•Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
•Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family Benefits
•Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
•Applying for joint foster care rights.
•Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
•Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Housing Benefits
•Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
•Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

Consumer Benefits
•Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
•Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
•Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.

Other Legal Benefits and Protections
•Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
•Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
•Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
•Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
•Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
•Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

Benefits of Being Married

Marriage is a sacred union between man and wife and should be honored at all costs. It can affect all aspect of your life, for instance income potential, taxes, expenses and insurance. Having a well paid job and good health is evident in marriage. Although marriage does not provide financial stability, it truly offers an array of benefits.

1. Emotional Benefits
According to psychological studies, married people have lower cases of schizophrenia and depression compared to single individuals. Also, they cope with stress better since they can share their problems with one another. In other words, married people feel better and are more optimistic in life than single individuals.

2. Share living expenses
Another benefit of being married is that you can share day-to-day living expenses. Sharing these costs can allow the couple to settle their debts on time, save some money for investing and retirement. On the other hand, unmarried couples may find it difficult to share financial responsibilities. For example, you might be reluctant to loan your partner some money, even when it makes sense.

3. Health benefits
Several studies show that married couples have better health than single individuals. For instance, cases of diabetes are more prevalent in women that live alone. Couples that live alone due to separation are more vulnerable to hypertension, according to recent studies. In other words, being married is the only sure way to remain jovial and healthy.

4. They don’t overindulge in vices
Married couples have better control over vices such as drugs as they share their problems with one another. Typically, people who are divorced, widowed or single are more likely to indulge in such vices.
Compromise is the major downside of being married. Because you are used to doing things on your own, negotiating and compromising with your partner may be difficult.

If you're susceptible to vice, find a wife. She'll save you from yourself—and improve your life—in a variety of ways. Notably, she'll . . .

1. Increase Your Pay
A Virginia Commonwealth University study found that married men earn 22 percent more than their similarly experienced but single colleagues.

2. Speed Up Your Next Promotion
Married men receive higher performance ratings and faster promotions than bachelors, a 2005 study of U.S. Navy officers reported.

3. Keep You Out of Trouble
According to a recent U.S. Department of Justice report, male victims of violent crime are nearly four times more likely to be single than married.

4. Satisfy You in Bed
In 2006, British researchers reviewed the sexual habits of men in 38 countries and found that in every country, married men have more sex.

5. Help You Beat Cancer
In a Norwegian study, divorced and never-married male cancer patients had 11 and 16 percent higher mortality rates, respectively, than married men.

6. Help You Live Longer
A UCLA study found that people in generally excellent health were 88 percent more likely to die over the 8-year study period if they were single.

The Benefits of Marriage



Marriage is linked to health and economic benefits. Married individuals tend to have better physical health, psychological well-being, and a lower mortality risk. Financially, married men tend to earn more, and married women are less likely to fall into poverty. Marriage is also linked to greater wealth accumulation.

◦Married couples report greater sexual satisfaction. The highest levels of sexual satisfaction were reported by individuals who were in married, monogamous relationships, while those who were single or cohabiting reported slightly lower levels of sexual satisfaction.

◦Married women report higher levels of physical and psychological health. Formerly married women reported the worst health while never married women fell between these two groups. Compared with unmarried women, married women had less job stress, environment stress, child stress, financial stress, and relationship stress. Health measures included self-rated health, distress level, chronic illness, and a number of stress types, ranging from social life stress to job strain.

◦Married people are more likely to volunteer. Compared to unmarried peers, married adults were1.3 times more likely to have volunteered for socialservices and averaged 1.4 times more volunteer hours.

◦Being married increases the likelihood of affluence. This association applied to all age groups.

◦Married people tend to experience less depression and fewer problems with alcohol. Men who married and stayed married tended to be less depressed than those who remained single. Among women, marriage was associated with fewer alcohol problems.

◦Getting married increases the probability of moving out of a poor neighborhood. Marriage nearly doubled the probability that a person would move from a poor to a non-poor neighborhood. Likewise, the dissolution of a marriage more than doubled the probability that a person would move from a non-poor to poor neighborhood. Among blacks, marital dissolution increased the likelihood of moving from a non-poor to a poor neighborhood almost six-fold.

◦Married men make more money. Taking into consideration a number of factors including educational attainment, compared with unmarried peers, married men earned, on average, 20 percent more in wages.

◦Ever-married women are less likely to experience poverty. Compared to never-married peers, women who had ever been married were substantially less likely to be poor—regardless of race, family background, non-marital births, or education. Ever-married women have a poverty rate that was roughly one-third lower than the poverty rate of never-married women. Currently married women had an even lower probability of living in poverty—about two-thirds lower than other women.

◦Marriage is associated with a lower mortality risk. Compared to married individuals, those who have never been married had nearly twice the mortality risk. Divorced or separated individuals ran a mortality risk more than 50 percent higher than those who were married. The black-white mortality gap narrowed when marital status was taken into account.


http://people.howstuffworks.com/marriage.htm
 

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Government Benefits for Married Couples

Income Tax Benefits



Marriage can be financially advantageous in that it can potentially reduce the amount of overall income tax a couple owes. When a couple marries, they gain the option of filing a joint tax return. Filing jointly grants the couple a larger standard tax deduction than single filers are granted; if one partner does not work, it can amount to a large tax savings for the working partner. Married couples that file jointly are also subject to different tax brackets than single filers, which can also to lead to tax savings. Income tax savings is not guaranteed for married couples, however. According to MSN, an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office showed 42% of married taxpayers paid more by filing jointly than they would have if they'd remained single.


Survivor Benefits



Marriage grants significant benefits to widows and widowers. According to the US Government's Social Security website, when you die, certain members of your family may be eligible for survivors benefits, which can include widows, widowers (and divorced widows and widowers), children and dependent parents. The amount of social security funds provided by the government will depend on the earnings of the person that died. Married couples are also granted automatic inheritance rights. This means spouses have a legal right to a portion of the estate left behind by a dead partner, even if the deceased person did not make a will.


Estate Tax Benefits



When a person dies and leaves a large estate or inheritance behind, it may be taxed by the federal government. The estate tax can amount to millions of dollars for those who die with significant wealth. According to MSN, married people can leave an unlimited amount of assets to a spouse without incurring any estate tax.


Medical Benefits



Marriage grants couples medical benefits that are not afforded to unmarried individuals. If a married person is hospitalized, their spouse may be granted access to the intensive care unit or other restricted areas of the medical facility for visitation. Married people also have the right to exercise their spouse's wishes in the event that they become incapacitated or unable to think or act for themselves. Its can be an important benefit in the event of injuries that affect the brain and lead to persistent vegetative states or comas.
 
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